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New Rory & MAL

Episode 402 | Hotline Sing

04 Sep 2025

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

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5.499 - 25.792 Damaris

It's financial literacy month, and the podcast Eating While Broke is bringing real conversations about money, growth, and building your future. This month, hear from top streamer Zoe Spencer and venture capitalist Lakeisha Landrum-Pierre as they share their journeys from starting out to leveling up. There's an economic component to communities thriving.

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25.872 - 37.463 Damaris

If there's not enough money and entrepreneurship happening in communities, they fail. Listen to Eating While Broke from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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38.894 - 54.17 Unknown

I'm Daniel Alarcon, and this is my friend who's much more famous than I am. I wouldn't go that far, but I'm John Green, co-host of the podcast The Away End with my old friend Daniel. On our podcast The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup.

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Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important. Listen to The Away End with Daniel Alarcon and John Green on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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I'm Miles Turner.

71.669 - 72.59 Brianna Stewart

And I'm Brianna Stewart.

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And our podcast, Game Recognize Game, has never been done before.

76.375 - 81.982 Brianna Stewart

Two active players giving you a real look at our lives and what we actually think on and off the court.

Chapter 2: What insights are shared about Young Thug's leaked phone calls?

473.64 - 498.586 Mal

Well, apparently we was... Our energy was being checked and I didn't know. You know what I'm saying? I had no idea people walking around with thermometers at BET weekend. Apparently, I didn't have a cold, didn't have a flu. VT was brought to you by Nest. Oh, man. Shout out to Jazzy, though, man. I'm sure everything is fine. Jazzy was the coolest, most down-to-earth people I've ever met.

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498.606 - 518.129 Mal

Okay, but now, call Jazzy and ask her, has she ever seen the **** in a cast? I'm sure she has. I'm sure she hasn't. I told y'all, my friend's dad is a funeral director and he said, no, we've definitely buried, you know, gay women, but the family doesn't, you know, we dressed them up more effeminate than masculine. I'm like, do they like that in the afterlife?

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Do they like the fact that y'all put a dress on them? Yo, do they like that in the afterlife? Crazy. Yeah, like, I don't think a is going to be happy if the family, like, buried her in a dress. Like, you know what I'm saying? It's like, nah, bury me in my Levi's. Like, I used to usually wear with my, you know, my big t-shirt. And my fitted cap. Exactly.

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But yes, it's all love to Josie. Shout out to Josie. But yeah, with all that said, then I sent Damaris the off-road video. It is now, we're recording this on Wednesday. Damaris has not listened or watched anything that I've sent her. That's not true. I came in here ready to give you feedback and sing your praises, but you talk too fucking much. It's a podcast.

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You ever had a nigga talk himself out of pussy? That's you. I've probably done that before. Yeah, I know you have. Score. I'm playing paddle ball right now. I like this game. Anytime I feel like I've talked myself out of pussy, I felt okay about it. Like, I needed to get my point across. Good strike. I needed to get my point across. That was a good backhand, Rory.

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Sometimes you need a point more than you need a nut. That's fine. That's what you chose. But... Yeah. It looks very well. It's very well done. I'm very proud of you, but I couldn't even get that out because you came in here attacking me.

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And then on top of that, when I get my point across and realize that I talked myself out the pussy, I can then spin it to show like, wait, you thought I was trying to beat? That's crazy. I wasn't trying to fuck.

592.351 - 593.152 Rory

I'm about to go home now.

Chapter 3: How does the conversation shift to Gunna's situation?

714.006 - 731.178 Mal

We, we, we shot some, some content while we was recording as well. We had a camera guy there, whatever. Um, And she, you know, she was giving a passionate speech and she was like, and I'm a gay woman. I was like, wait, wait, wait, what? I just set the session up because I was trying to fuck. Yeah. I was joking. Clearly that's just a joke.

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731.218 - 748.285 Mal

I think she's beautiful, but obviously I know she's not, that wouldn't even be a thing. She's not into men whatsoever. And obviously I wasn't doing that, but I was joking about fucking. Yeah. So I, you know what? I think it's just. But that's a clear joke though. Yeah. That's a clear joke. Now, if you made that joke with Tyler. The creator?

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Either one. However you feel it. However you feel it. I don't know what you on. That's none of my business. I don't know what you on. I'm just saying, if you make that same joke with a woman that wasn't masculine appearing, would it be a joke? Mainly the joke was actually more about producers setting up sessions because they're trying to fuck the artist.

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769.005 - 770.147 Miles Turner

That's more of what it was about.

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That's a real thing. I would make that joke with Tyler. The creator? Yes. You would make that joke with him? Yeah. Because... Why? He's... Why would you make that joke with somebody that may or may not be a gay man? He's disgust being bisexual. You may or may not be his type. So are you discussing... Listen, I know he like redheads.

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He got a whole album cover that's just a ginger that looks like me. Okay. That's what's up. Listen, as long as you... I want you to be happy, my brother. But here's my thing. If I did that and he wasn't joking, then now I'm in a predicament. Yeah. Because now you was teasing... You was playing pussy and you got to get fucked. If you're going to play pussy, get fucked.

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At that point, I become the woman and be like, Tyler, you need to give me money.

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Yeah.

Chapter 4: What are the implications of Young Thug's likability issues after the snitching allegations?

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I also see that. I don't think anyone cares about snitching. I'm willing to be proven wrong, though. I'm open to being proven wrong. But I think right now, if they don't hit, then... I think Thug had a likability issue a little bit before this whole snitching allegation came about. All he got to do is put out good music. That's all he got to do.

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3312.958 - 3328.078 Mal

No, I think Thug's likability was at its highest after the, you know, after he beat the case. He just, you know, and again, he was in jail. I'm not saying you got to hit the ground running and put out mad music right away. But his likability was at its peak.

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3328.098 - 3346.48 Mal

This, I think, has just shifted everything because you don't appear to be the person that we thought you were when we were championing you when you beat the case. None of this matters is what I'm saying. People don't care about snitching? They don't give a fuck. You put out good music, that's all that matters. Go back to when 6ix9ine came out.

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Pull up the whole pod shit when I was trying to explain to y'all. I said, these kids don't give a fuck. That's true. Everyone's arguing me down. I was arguing you. You think the people that were fans of 6ix9ine give a single fuck about that entire shit? But that's the problem, though. And that's the problem with our culture, with black culture. That's one of the big problems with black culture.

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It's shit like that. It's that we act like these things matter until we put in a position for us to stand behind it mattering. And then when we don't, it's like, man, nobody care about that. I mean, but with entertainment, can you put that on a fan? Who's the fan?

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If I'm just – I don't even want to use thug because, again, I don't really know everything that is going on and if he is this, if he's that. Who's the fan, though? If you're a fan of an artist and somebody – that artist then snitches. Like, that's not – that person – I'm a fan because they entertain me. I'm not here for – I'm not in your friend circle.

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I can look at this shit and think it's wrong. But a young kid that's just a fan of an artist? He's just a fan.

Chapter 5: How does the debate about DJ Enuff's departure from Hot 97 unfold?

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He doesn't even know about criminal shit. Oh, that type of fan?

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3420.461 - 3421.983 Rory

You're talking about that type of fan?

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Me as a fan? No, not you. I'm saying that. Oh, the average fan.

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3425.268 - 3426.229 Rory

The casual fan.

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3426.249 - 3446.682 Mal

I think the fans of 6ix9ine give a fuck about that. For the most part, no. Yeah. There's some people that supported 6ix9ine that never supported him again. I was one of those people. I was one of those people. And it was less about the snitch. It was more about what he did when he got out with the Nipsey Mero. I just thought he was moving super goofy. It depends on who you ask.

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Which fans are you speaking to? Which fans are you asking? For the most part, no. Most fans don't give a fuck. But you have some people that look at it like, man, that's crazy. I can never support that. Why? Because I have friends and family that were directly affected by people snitching on them, that are directly incarcerated because somebody snitched on them.

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So, yes, for me, as a fan of some of these people, it's a little different because I've seen what that does. I've seen what snitching does. Yeah. to people. I've seen the position it puts people in. So yeah, to me, people do that. Nah, I can't fuck with that.

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I'll never support that because again, that's something that directly affected my family, with people being incarcerated and away from us because somebody snitched. So yeah, I don't take that lightly. And I'm fair and agree with you. And to close, I just think the majority, because hip hop has become the biggest genre in the world, a majority of fans that are driving to work every morning

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They got kids, wives, they pay their taxes. They don't care. Is the music good? Then that's all they care about. People don't care. They have their own shit going on in their lives that they're focused on. I just want to be entertained. People going to have all these stink pieces out and all these things and be upset. Y'all people don't give a fuck. They don't care. Like I said, we watched it.

Chapter 6: What does the caller reveal about her cousin and the dynamics of their relationship?

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I'm surprised when they don't snitch. That surprises me now. Like, oh, shit. He kept it real. He took it all away. Salute. Yeah, but when they snitch, it's just like, oh, this is another one to add to the list. But the bottom line is nobody gives a fuck. And there are still plenty of people that do actually still hold it down. Absolutely. 100%. Well, how do you feel about the...

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3679.507 - 3700.806 Mal

Kind of attacking, not attacking, but his words on Kendrick not doing features with rappers or certain rappers. Again, a lot of those calls to me were just bored in jail. Just talking. Like, I know that was like the big bombshell. And of course, with Drake and Kendrick and all that type of stuff. But I think he just...

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Chapter 7: How does the discussion about Drake's interview choices reflect on celebrity culture?

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You've had friends in jails, they just want to talk on the phone. They just want to talk because they're bored. And I get it. And they just say shit. Obviously, it's Kendrick's name, so that was the one that people wanted to really... Yeah, I just don't put too much... He didn't say nothing there that was surprising to me. He's like, why you don't want to do a feature?

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Like, yeah, why wouldn't you want to do a feature with Thug? And then now they go back to the record, the part where I guess Kendrick is talking about Thug, asking for a feature.

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I mean, I don't get it, man. It is what it is. But again, a lot of that is just, you know, I call it jail fatigue. You're locked up. You're incarcerated. You got to talk to somebody. You want to just talk about anything. I don't really put too much stock in it because, again, this is somebody that was incarcerated and was just wanting to talk. Yeah. Well, no, it's not about him saying it, right?

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It's not some big bomb show that he said it. It's more about the topic at hand. How do you guys feel about... certain rappers just refusing to like a Kendrick who's looked at as an intelligent or intellectual rapper, right? This is what he's looked at, looked at as whether you- He trying to kick knowledge? He kicking knowledge?

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No, I'm just saying like, how do you feel about rappers like that not exactly leaning into working with what people will call the mumble rappers or the trap rappers? I think Kodak is actually a great rapper, but I think people would still, some of the- Kendrick work on mumble rap. The beef started with a mumble rapper. With Future. Future is not a mumble rapper.

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Future is the- He might be King mumble.

3792.478 - 3794.281 Damaris

He's kind of King mumble rap.

3794.301 - 3807.865 Mal

What the fuck are you talking about? I don't know what Future be saying. But Kendrick is- The gospel. A little bit different. Kendrick has kind of become like the Chris Brown of like, listen, let me talk.

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