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Episode 411 | Hand In The Sand

03 Oct 2025

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

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This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.

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The Volume.

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Welcome back. End of the week. Who's excited for the weekend? You are. You look totally excited. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. I mean, currently when they're listening to this, we're having an office party right now. We're having a rager.

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While they're listening. A rage of a time on Patreon.

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Exclusively on Patreon, Patreon, Patreon. Clearly we don't learn from our mistakes. Patreon, Patreon. Who's going to get punched this time? My money's on Josh. Nah, Damaris might get punched out. Imagine the fuck that. Somebody gonna punch Damaris out. Why would you say that? I mean, there's gonna be girls here. Girl might be like, she ain't like something Damaris said last summer.

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Y'all be wearing a t-shirt that say, never forget.

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Y'all be fucked up. You can't come to Damaris' house and punch her, though. That's wild and respectful. That's where you get punched at. In your home? Yeah, you never got punched in your house before? The house party?

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never that's wild I've been punched at a house party but not in my own home but it wasn't your house no oh okay I've been punched a few times at house parties just never in my home yeah maybe by a family member but it wasn't a house party it's always a family member But yes, on Patreon, we'll be live doing a little shindig. Tonight, 8 p.m. Eastern.

Chapter 2: What are the implications of the Cardi B vs Nicki Minaj feud?

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I laugh when they were doing the ABCDEFG show.

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I thought it was funny. But then it just got to that line. Whenever Nikki had said a culture, whatever, I was like, well, here we go. In 48 hours straight of just naming kids.

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1082.765 - 1101.06 Damaris

Yeah, I mean, you know, it's unfortunate for it to play out like that. And again, you know, whenever you start disrespecting each other's kids, it's reached a whole different tone, a whole different level. So, I mean, I came here last week. You know, y'all know how I feel about Nicki. Y'all know how I feel about Cardi. I came here, tried to, you know, throw Nicki some bass.

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Said, nah, what's your now style? I was like, nah, that ain't got nothing to do with Cardi. That's just, you know, Nicki. But it's clear as day. Like, these two women just absolutely do not like each other. For whatever reason, I don't even know where they started. I don't know what was the cause of it. At first, years ago, I thought it was just a competitive thing.

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1117.303 - 1135.246 Damaris

You know, Nicki being the top dog and, you know, here comes Cardi. They trying to place somebody in that lane and kind of give, you know, healthy competition to whoever the top female MC is, which we understand in music. So I just thought it was a competitive thing. And I thought, you know, fan bases, you know, add to that and fuel that a little bit.

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But it was it was OK because it seemed like it was just a competitive rap thing. Like who's the top female rapper? But now it's going way too left. It's personal. It's a lot of behind the scenes shit. I believe that is going on on both sides. Things that are being said, information that is being fed both ways. A lot of pillow talking, a lot of, you know, group chats.

1159.582 - 1163.349 Rory

The rumors that Nicki is schizophrenic are on drugs, right?

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Yeah.

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Why is that the rumor? Because of the things that the rants that she goes on, people would say that they don't connect. Accusing Jay-Z of trying to kill her and ruin her career or of like that whole Jay-Z rock nation thing. Even when she was arguing with Cardi, she was throwing that out there. Like she's been attacking Jay-Z for like a year now, damn near.

Chapter 3: How does the conversation shift towards the impact of social media?

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Would you get on the phone with somebody that... said these types of things about your kids on both sides, Nikki and Cardi. I don't think anyone would get on the phone with somebody, but I hope somebody that is a mutual between the two of them can just have them both code their separate ways and just, just, I would, I would get on the phone with somebody.

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1664.257 - 1680.598 Damaris

If there's somebody, you know, me and somebody is going back and forth to it and they mentioned my kid and I mentioned a kid and whatever we go back and forth, you know, I, I, if I had as much to lose as these two women do, I would absolutely get on the phone. Like, um, crash out and, and both be in prison away from our children.

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No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying if putting myself in this situation, let's say something like this happened, I wouldn't get on the phone with that person. But if there was somebody mutual that we both respected that wanted to dead this, I would give a message through them. Cool. It's over. It's done. But you don't want to talk to them? No. Okay. I would have no reason to.

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What do we have to say to each other? There won't be any resolve here. So knowing that where it could go could ruin both of us and our families and our children's future. Let's go our separate ways. You don't say a fucking word. I won't say a word. Yeah. Negative or positive. We don't need to speak. The fuck we need to speak for?

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1720.049 - 1722.953 Damaris

Okay. I mean, you have a daughter, so I got to take what you're saying.

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I mean, but just not even with them, just in general. I do kind of hate the thoughts that like kumbaya or conversations need to happen. Yeah. We can all coexist with people we don't like and just not speak about them and just move the fuck forward.

1741.404 - 1741.645 Mal

Yeah.

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Because I like love my friend Della. Della is one of the Best neutral people as far as getting to the root of a problem and making sure everyone on both sides feels great about it. He has that skill that I don't have, and I admire him for it. But there's plenty of times where I'm like, why the fuck? We don't have to solve anything. Everyone could just agree to never speak and move the fuck on.

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The fuck I need to be? We don't have anything to speak about anymore. Mm-hmm. I don't need to sit, I'm not wasting my time talking to somebody I don't want to talk to. Just for the sake of resolution. Resolution is shutting the fuck up and going about your business. I think that would be the most ideal thing for Nicki and Cardi at this point. Got you.

Chapter 4: What are the potential consequences of the ongoing beef?

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First of all, with Saudi money, that's a steal. Only 600 million.

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2956.014 - 2956.314 Damaris

What?

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600 million. Man, they gonna make it happen on Netflix. Watch this. I mean, listen, man, they bought golf. And as of this week, I believe the Saudis have officially bought comedy. Anytime we laugh, we owe a royalty to the Saudi government. Really? So the Saudis did their comedy festival, which has been. Are they allowed to laugh?

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That's why everyone was a little nervous, Conan.

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2979.801 - 2981.725 Rory

Yo, the casual racism.

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I'm just saying, under the hijabs, you don't know who's laughing. How do you know who's laughing? You don't know who's laughing.

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Now, take us all the way there. Fuck it. I'm just saying, how do you know who's laughing under the hijabs?

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That's all I'm saying. That's the lineup? Yes. They got Chris Tucker?

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They got Dave Chappelle, Kevin Hart, Chris Tucker. Oh, my God. Louis C.K. Oh, my God. That's the greatest lineup ever. This was for, like, one of their kids' 12th birthday or something. This wasn't even, like, a festival. This was just a backyard party. Yo, this is crazy. Okay, but this has started the debate throughout the entire week. Wait, is that my— Bill Burr's there as well?

Chapter 5: What are the implications of comedians accepting Saudi money?

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Imagine the accommodations. Imagine where they're going to be staying at over there. It's in Saudi Arabia? Yeah. Oh, my God. They're staying at the palace.

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But then I was thinking like, all right, everyone gets booked for club bookings in Dubai. They shit on a hooker and go home and no one says no one's the wiser. Like no one says anything. Beyonce has done the weddings.

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Chapter 6: How does the discussion shift to Dave Chappelle's actions?

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Rihanna's done the carnivals. Like, I mean, I don't know. At what point do you just give in and say it's not my fight?

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When they call and they give you a peek at what that wire transfer is going to look like. You know what? I understand. I understand. I get it. I understand.

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It's not my fight. I watched proudly as a young teenager, wide-eyed, just looking at the world, an idol like Dave Chappelle take a stance against... What was wrong with Comedy Central, Viacom, comedians, black comedians at that, showrunners. Walked away from 50 million, right? What was it, 50? Walked away from 50 million.

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Chapter 7: What are the consequences of Ray J's claims about the Kardashians?

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In the early 2000s, he walked away from 50. They put out a press release that said he was smoking crack in Africa. Man. Then he showed up with a recorder in San Francisco and tried to get his career back in a park.

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Yeah.

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And I watched him fight all the way to get the money he deserved in the right way. The longer journey- Then this morning. The Saudis call. I watched Dave Chappelle put his hands in what, I don't know if it was sand, I don't know what the fuck ritual it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then go like this. And then I watched Kevin Hart, who was in line. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go and do the same fucking thing.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. With no explanation of what it meant. Mind your business. I've been very critical of Israel. I hate when they do their PR press runs where they're like, oh, come to Israel. When Lior Cohen thought Chuck D was anti-Semitic, let's get him on a first class flight to the Holocaust Museum, take him to Israel. We'll go by the wall. We'll kiss it.

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I think the Saudis have done a trade in PR teams. I don't know what this ritual is.

Chapter 8: How should one navigate rejection in relationships?

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But I know Bill Clinton put on a yarmulke and kissed a wall. Yeah, yeah.

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3279.468 - 3305.905 Damaris

Oh, shit. Oh, it happened already. It's currently happening. Dave went on stage a couple days ago. Dave got in early before niggas changed their mind. Dave said, I want to be the first to go. Yeah, second day. Second day, Dave. That's his new name. Dave ain't waste no time. He don't want production to have an issue.

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He like, yo, that Wyatt hit, yo, let me get out of here. I forgot what comedian it was. They showed footage. He was holding the hand of a Saudi. No, no. I'm not joking. Josh, please look this up.

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You got to hold my hand.

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Go to KFC from Barstool. Shout out to KFC on his page. There was a comedian like he was in prison. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hold my hand. Like his pocket was out and he had to hold the pocket. Yeah. Go to his Instagram. So there's certain things of like, but I don't know. Are they getting in early? Because we're going to be owned by the Saudis eventually. Josh is still on Twitter.

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I just want to let y'all know that. Instagram.

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You said go to Instagram four times. God damn it, Josh.

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It's times like this that all of us can sit back. And because we are not famous enough or in demand enough where our morals could be questioned, we get to critique everyone else that does it.

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That's the hand in the sand. Second day Dave. There he go. Hand in the sand. But do you think they explained what the ritual was? They don't have to. The wire hit. You don't understand what I'm telling you. I wouldn't give a fuck what was happening after that wire hit. Y'all ain't got to tell me shit. What time do y'all need me on stage? Look at Kev. Look at Kev. Look at Kev. Look at Kev.

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