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New Rory & MAL

Episode 412 | Men Can’t Use Cameras

07 Oct 2025

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

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This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. I'm Daniel Alarcón, and this is my friend who's much more famous than I am. I wouldn't go that far, but I'm John Green, co-host of the podcast The Away End with my old friend Daniel. On our podcast The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup.

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Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important. Listen to The Away End with Daniel Alarcon and John Green on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On the CINO Show podcast, each episode invites you into a raw, unfiltered conversations about recovery, resilience, and redemption.

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On a recent episode, I sit down with actor, cultural icon, Danny Trejo to talk about addiction, transformation, and the power of second chances. The entire season two is now available to binge, featuring powerful conversations with guests like Tiffany Addish, Johnny Knoxville, and more.

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I'm an alcoholic, and without this drug, I'm gonna die.

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Listen to CINO Show on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On paper, the three hosts of the Nick Dick and Paul show are geniuses. We can explain how AI works, data centers, but there are certain things that we don't necessarily understand. Better version of play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Yes.

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Which, by the way, wasn't Taylor Swift who said that for the first time. I actually, I thought it was. I got that wrong. But hey, no one's perfect. We're pretty close, though. Listen to the Nick Dick and Paul show on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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It's Financial Literacy Month and the podcast Eating While Broke is bringing real conversations about money, growth, and building your future. This month, hear from top streamer Zoe Spencer and venture capitalist Lakeisha Landrum-Pierre as they share their journeys from starting out to leveling up. There's an economic component to community striving.

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If there's not enough money and entrepreneurship happening in communities, they fail.

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Listen to Eating While Broke from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back.

Chapter 2: What are the implications of Diddy's sentencing?

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I think if I go full gray, I might like have a whole nother shot. How does that happen to you for gingers? Does your body allow you to go gray or is it just like gingers? Yeah, you see the grays popping? I thought that was like rust.

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It's like a little, you know what I mean? It's like, it's still ginger. You think my beard is rusting? I mean, it's like, you know, it's still ginger, but it's like, it's just different shades of ginger. You know the movie Shades of Grey? Yeah. It's like shades of ginger. Well, I mean, my body overall is confused with hair. Yeah. Black eyebrows, red hair. Yeah. It's fucking weird.

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It's all good, man. But you know, other than that, it was a rough, rough weekend for the Yanks, but I'm still, I'm here. I'm still standing with my guys, but it was, it was a rough, it was a rough one. I don't even want to talk about it. It was a rough one, to say the least. Oh, man. But I don't know. Have faith, I think. Listen, man, it's not over yet. It's not over.

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We just got to get the next one. Just get the next one. That's what we tell ourselves every year. Just get the next one. Just get the next one, man. It's all good. Speaking of which, you'll probably appreciate this. You remember when I went on the bus trip? You have never said you would probably appreciate this, and I appreciate it, by the way. No, I actually think you will, actually. Okay.

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Remember I went on that bus trip where we spread ashes at Yankee Stadium and everything? You mean on Jerome Avenue, yes. Yes, of course, yeah. So a group chat was started leading up to that so people could send their money, this and that. This group chat has gone so off the rails after that Yankee game. It's still happening. It's still going.

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Well, it's the playoffs, so yeah, naturally, it has to keep going. You would think that we'd be talking about the Yankees. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Chapter 3: How does Ayesha Curry's viral moment impact public perception?

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No, this is the Black Liberation Army for old white guys from North Jersey. Okay. No context. Add me, add me. That's my type of chat right there. I'll even show you exactly where it went off the rails. It was photos from the bus trip was the last text. Then no context, no conversation. Team 47 is the man. Exclamation point, explanation point. Team 47? Who's that? Donald Trump. Okay.

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Then it moves on to, I never met Charlie Kirk, but it feels like I lost a friend. This dude was so full of life and knowledge. He was the best thing that ever came along for everyone in their 20s and 30s. This guy is just phenomenal. How does anyone think they could ever get away with this? This Yankee group chat. I was about to say it's gone so far left. No, it's...

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I really think my dad should be like behind museum glass. I think he's the only Irish Democrat left. Your dad lives like he's behind museum glass. That's how he feels every day in his life. Like he's behind museum glass. Yo, the change is just insane. Like everybody I grew up around was Irish Democrats. Like... After JFK, like, it was a law. Yeah. Like, I've told you, which I've not exaggerated.

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Chapter 4: What are the dynamics of the Yankee bus trip group chat?

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It was Jesus, Jeter, and JFK on my mother's fucking... Yeah, on the mantle. At one point, I forgot. I must have been in, like, fifth or sixth grade. I wrote, like, a hero essay, like, about, like, Michael Jordan. No, I think it was, like, Terrell Davis or some shit. My dad was so pissed. You wrote a hero essay about Terrell Davis.

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It was one of those like when you're in fucking elementary school that you got to fucking write like about your hero or whatever. So my dad found out that I did it on Terrell Davis. And the next morning in our bathroom was a picture of JFK. And he wrote a sticky note that said hero. So I'm telling you, my dad is still an Irish Democrat.

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Like, and even, you know, my grandfather even like fucking volunteered Jimmy Hoff, like the whole fucking thing. Yeah. So to see this group chat go from just a good old Yankee. Yeah. Yo, let's talk about, let's talk about judge. Yeah. No, that's how it happens, man. While we're over here, let's just talk about some other shit. I thought when they said All Rise, they were talking about Judge.

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I didn't know it was Colin Kaepernick. Yeah, exactly. That's exactly what they talk about. Add me in that group chat. That's my type of chat. It's insane. I need to be in some chats like that. But listen, if they want to idolize Charlie Kirk, that's their prerogative. That's cool or whatever.

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What bothered me was just a few years ago, everyone in my family referred to podcasting as being unemployed. Okay. Now a podcaster is their hero? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's how life works. They're a hero.

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Yeah.

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That's how it happens. That's exactly how it happens. I mean, part of me was like, damn, I should probably just get out of this group chat. But it's the funniest thing by far that is happening in my life right now is anytime I get a notification, I cannot wait to see what it said. But that's the type of those are the type of guys that need a podcast like those type of men. One hundred percent.

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One hundred. They don't give a fuck. Like, that's who needs the podcast. People that don't give a fuck. Call it like Exit 11 or something. Just some Turnpike shit. They don't give a fuck. Just record it. Put it out. They don't care what it's doing. They don't care how many views it got. Somebody needs to hear this type of shit. Absolutely. Why not? Fuck it.

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It is a great group chat, to say the least. We are back sponsored by Boost Mobile. Yes. Unlimited talk, text, and data for how much? I don't know. $25 a month. There you go. Merch is on sale right now. NewRoyalMall.com. Also for $5 a month. The whole month. Just five bucks. You can listen to every episode ad-free, as well as some additional content, some fun stuff.

Chapter 5: What precautions should be taken when using pepper spray?

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But as somebody that's been pepper sprayed twice, I feel like you need some form of training because pepper spray is not for play play. I see people pepper spray themselves all the time. Pepper spray will fuck you up. So just to give that to anyone, like Basil's just sending that to you with no release form, something. You should be able...

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I think in the police academy, you have to get sprayed by pepper spray to carry it. And I'm not saying our police training is top tier, but that does make sense to me. You should know what the fuck pepper spray feels like before you just walk around willy nilly. Because some people just have anger issues and it's not to protect themselves. They just have pepper spray and they're pissed.

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Chapter 6: Why do some believe men shouldn't carry pepper spray?

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Yeah, I think any man carrying pepper spray is fucking crazy. I still can't. Add that to the list of things that men can't do. Men can't own pepper spray.

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That's crazy.

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But we're not allowed to be happy. So, I mean, men cannot own pepper spray.

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See, y'all see how y'all be saying women be like, men can't do this, men can't do that. No, men be saying men can't do this, men can't do that.

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No, no, for sure. 100%. 100%. Like, yeah, I'm one of those men. A man should not have pepper spray. Like, come on, fam. Pepper spray? Like, if we get, I'm getting into an argument with somebody. I'm supposed to back out the pepper spray and just spray this dude? Yeah. What you mean, yeah? Like, we arguing and I'm supposed to just bust him with pepper spray?

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Well, okay, well, why are you going to bust him with the pepper spray? Pepper spray is to protect yourself. Unless you feel threatened, you shouldn't be using a pepper spray. Yeah, but I'm saying, I'm getting into like a Mark Sanchez. I'm getting into an argument with somebody. Like, I'm supposed to back out the pepper spray and hit them with the spray?

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Nah, but if he whooping your ass, you gotta spray him. That's worse. I see, but I feel like that's worse.

Chapter 7: What are the implications of men battling women in rap?

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I feel like if it's just fists, me and another man is going, it ain't like he backed out something.

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Oh yeah, just fists is fine, but if he pull out a knife on you, pepper spray him.

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No, he got just hands, but he fucking me up. I back out the pepper spray. That's not crazy to you? Don't do that. Don't do that. That's what I'm saying. So why do I have the pepper? Like, we know there's crazy people out here. I would hope that at this point in my life, I wouldn't run into somebody and we get into a fight and he pull a knife or a gun out on me.

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But if he pull a knife out, pepper spray him. No, if he pull a knife out, then yeah, I'm assed out because I ain't got no pepper spray. See?

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And the nigga next to you that got the pepper spray, he not assed out. He not stabbed. You stabbed up.

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No, I'm running. Pepper spray didn't work. He had to stab him. Yeah, he had to take it to another level. Mark wasn't backing down. Even though I did make the original point that men should not carry pepper spray because it's a little feminine. There are some cases. Tata one. Understand. In the event that a 69 year old man runs into an NFL quarterback that wants to beat the shit out of him.

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I'm OK with that guy having pepper spray. I would never think that this scenario would ever exist. But now that I know it exists, 69-year-olds should be able to carry pepper spray because clearly NFL quarterbacks are targeting them.

Chapter 8: How do personal experiences shape reactions to relationship conflicts?

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Yeah. I'm losing a fight to Mark Sanchez. Another thing that- And I'm 35. Another thing that man should do, Damaris, you go to a concert with a dude, you turn around and he's recording like everybody in the arena. Yeah. You mean this move doesn't turn you on?

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No, stop. Stop it.

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Mid can't record. Yo, I'm telling you.

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You can record the concert.

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No, no, no. No, that's not what you said. You can record the concert. It has to be a female performer. No, that's, you know, you can record the concert. Niggas recording Chris Brown is crazy. I'm sorry. Niggas recording CB is crazy. I did it. That's nasty. And what's so nasty is I did it and I didn't post it. Because you know it's nasty. But no, it's nastier than I didn't post it.

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It's nasty for a man to record Chris Brown's concert. That is disgusting. I don't care what none of y'all say. You're supposed to just live in the moment. It's supposed to just be a memory. Oh, my God. Memories don't live like people do. It's supposed to just be a memory. They always remember you. Now, if it's a Chris Brown show... Nah, you can record, Michael.

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If it's a Chris Brown show and Kehlani pop out... Oh, it's time to record. That's Kehlani.

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Okay, can you record?

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Okay, hear me out. But CB doing his ballad and you like this?

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