Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
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Chapter 2: How do the hosts pay tribute to D'Angelo?
As a musician, as anybody, a producer, as an artist, if you have the opportunity to be in the same room, especially a studio, and just talk to D'Angelo and pick his brain about music. I mean, you definitely have to take that opportunity whenever you can, because you don't know when you'll have that opportunity again.
And because he had probably the most unique voice in R&B history, maybe outside of like Marvin Gaye, you know when you're walking past a studio and like, all right, that's D'Angelo, and I've never heard that song. Right. What the fuck is going on in there? Yeah. But yeah, Benzino... I guess we all grieve different. We do. That is very true, Rory. We do grieve differently. Absolutely.
Big L and the Massapeel album we talked about last episode, but they put out the first single with Nas, You Ain't Got a Chance, with a visual too that I thought was really cool, just going through old Harlem and old Queens. First record is fire. Out the gate. Massapeel again? Yeah. Nas on the first single. Massapeel going crazy. What is Massapeel doing in 2025, man?
And we getting the full Nas and Primo shit. Yeah. Like Nas sat back and was like, all right. Cause, cause, cause Berg did say, you know, the question he asked, and I've been thinking about that since last night was like under 35, no legacy. Yeah. Acts. Who are the rap? Who are the guys? Who are the top five? And I'm that shit. Like, I cannot believe I cannot name. I could name one.
Well, I mean, that's where I'm kind of mad we were right however many years ago when we were like, yo, do you think there's going to be another big three, another rap superstar? Like, I can't see it. I can see when we was leaving 50, Hov, Kanye, Wayne, like we could see there was like six people that were candidates in the beginning.
Of course, it switched and we got to a three, but we were all looking at five to six. Shit, maybe even seven, like Wiz... Could have been that. I can't really see one right now. It's crazy, man. And, you know, I think... But we're haters.
I was going to say they're going to kick y'all ass about not talking about Playboi Carti and Youngboy and why... Playboi Carti? Listen, hey. I'm not talking about what we... I'm talking about... You're talking about rap superstars and let people... Playboi Carti's not a rapper to me.
No, he's like a noise.
Okay, NBA Youngboy.
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Chapter 3: What legacy does D'Angelo leave behind in music?
Yeah. It's like, you know what I mean? It's not, when I say, I'm talking Nas, Jay, Wayne, you know what I'm saying? Like that type of, those guys, that rap, like, Where is it? But see, but that's why I said young boy because you can't... Yeah, but he even said he was like, he feels like young boy is more already like in his own... legacy kind of thing already because he's been lit.
This is not new for Youngboy. People are just catching on to it. He's been at his own core fan base. Y'all are looking for people after Youngboy? That's like rap. Rap is a young man's sport.
He's 25.
Take Youngboy. Name four more. I can't.
This is what I'm saying.
Even if you say Youngboy, who else? Then what after that? I said Yeet, but got laughed at. Listen, I've seen footage of Yeet concerts. Like, he has a crazy fan base. Oh no, I'm not saying he don't have a fan base, I'm talking about- Oh, he's an awful rapper, don't get me wrong. Like, he makes terrible music, in my opinion.
Clearly that doesn't matter because he's selling out more tickets than I could ever dream of selling. I'm not trying to disrespect him in that way. That's why I brought, I didn't bring him up ironically. Like that would be considered rap now. And he is dominating as far as streams and hard ticket sales. Like he is. I shit.
I, I think the biggest record on the last Drake project was the one with, with ye outside of first person shooter.
Uh, Rod wave.
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Chapter 4: What are the challenges Math Hoffa faced with contracts?
If y'all don't know who Jay Reed is, that's fucking hilarious. If y'all don't know who Jay Reed is. So Jay Reed sends me what's supposed to be a revolt contract. Okay. I'm looking at the numbers. I'm like, this shit don't make no sense. Like, we doing better than this right now. Right. This is what, like 2021? Yeah, like 2020. No, 2020 maybe. Whatever year they left.
It was like two, three years ago. Yeah, they've been going like three years now. Crazy. Anyway, so I'm looking at the contract. I'm like, what the fuck is this? This shit don't make no sense. Call them like, yo, what up? First of all, they tried to manage me.
Chapter 5: How did Math Hoffa's personal experiences shape his perspective?
I'm like, y'all niggas ever manage a podcast before? Never, right? Okay. So why y'all trying to manage this? All right, whatever. And I'm like, yo, son, this shit, this shit seem wacky. So shout out to my man, Smitty Runner City. Smitty, CEO Smitty. I talked to him about it. He was like, yo, you trying to get the puff? I'm like, hold on. Get me on the phone. We talk. Send me the DM.
I got his number. He's on the line. He's like, yo, Dion, whatever they want, just figure it out. Let's make it happen. So I'm like, all right, cool. This is you DMing Puff.
Chapter 6: What insights does Math Hoffa share about the battle rap culture?
Right. Okay. So Puff plugs me in with Dion. Shout out to Dion. Great dude. He gave me some great advice. I didn't listen to it that year. Don't worry, my nigga. We're going to make it right. Right? Mm-hmm. So I say, yo, I got a contract from y'all from before from da-da-da-da-da. He says, I don't know who the fuck that is. Stop talking to them immediately. Puff says this.
No, Dion.
Dion says it. So I'm like, ugh. And it was supposed to be a revoked contract that you were looking at. Ugh.
Chapter 7: What are Math Hoffa's thoughts on future battles and collaborations?
Strike two. Ugh. Strike two. Okay. Third strike. Okay. Sorry to cut you off. Did you speak to them about that after, though?
Yes.
And it's always, man, I don't know what they're doing, man. I don't know what they're doing. But we'll do the math on that later. So Third Strike, Bag Fuel was supposed to. And I don't even like talking about this, but, you know, let me explain. Bag Fuel was a show that they stopped. I'm like, yo, let's focus on this shit. Me and homie had a falling out.
And Heineken talked me into bringing him back. Energy was still kind of off. So one day, trying to get in contact with them to shoot an episode. Because you know how it be sometimes, somebody come in town and they be like, yo, I got from this time to this time. And you like, yo, the team, can we make this happen? Last minute audible, yeah.
So I'm getting to the point where I'm calling, three niggas ain't picking up. I'm like, yo, we trying to get the, they're not picking up. I ain't saying nothing. Then I seen a clip of Bag Fuel, the show that was supposed to be stopped. Go up. I call Heineken. I'm like, yo, this a brand new clip? Yeah, it was Esso's idea. I'm like, all right. So I'm negotiating with Revolt. Damn near begging them.
Puff and Dion for more bread so everybody could be situated. And y'all doing this? So for me, it's like, I don't understand it. I didn't understand it. And maybe I didn't have the communication skills at the time to like sit down and say like, I don't understand this. Explain it to me. Okay. But I never got a call. Nobody ever hit me up to say, yo, this is what happened. I just cut ties.
I cut ties because I just felt like, yo, bro, I can't trust this situation. Yeah, so you, based on the previous things that was happening, you finding out that that contract, nobody from that side ever even heard of that and was like... So that was the final straw for you. Right. Okay. And to be honest, like doing homework, we talking about somebody...
Somebody almost lost their life doing shit like that. I don't got to say no names. They know who it is. But doing shit like that, you already almost died before. What are you doing? What are you doing? Make it make sense. So for me, it just felt like before I lock in with these guys in a contract where I have to deal with, I'm going to just cut. Okay.
I mean, well, I like the fact that you took some accountability and saying maybe your communication, you know, you could have done something different, but you were already kind of like feeling some way because things were happening. And then that was another move that you kind of felt like, oh, y'all are doing funny shit while I'm over here trying to make sure we all good.
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