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New Rory & MAL

Episode 417 | Over/Under

24 Oct 2025

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

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This is an iHeart Podcast.

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Guaranteed human.

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On the CINO Show podcast, each episode invites you into a raw, unfiltered conversations about recovery, resilience, and redemption. On a recent episode, I sit down with actor, cultural icon, Danny Trejo to talk about addiction, transformation, and the power of second chances.

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The entire season two is now available to binge, featuring powerful conversations with guests like Tiffany Addish, Johnny Knoxville, and more. I'm an alcoholic. And without this probe, I'm gonna die. Listen to the CINO Show on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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It's Financial Literacy Month and the podcast Eating While Broke is bringing real conversations about money, growth, and building your future. This month, hear from top streamer Zoe Spencer and venture capitalist Lakeisha Landrum-Pierre as they share their journeys from starting out to leveling up. There's an economic component to communities thriving.

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If there's not enough money and entrepreneurship happening in communities, they fail. Listen to Eating While Broke from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Daniel Alarcon, and this is my friend who's much more famous than I am.

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I wouldn't go that far, but I'm John Green, co-host of the podcast The Away End with my old friend Daniel. On our podcast The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important.

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Listen to The Away End with Daniel Alarcon and John Green on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If you're watching the latest season of The Real Housewives of Atlanta, you already know there's a lot to break down. Portia accusing Kelly of sleeping with a married man. They holding K. Michelle back from fighting Drew. Pinky has financial issues.

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On the podcast, Reality with the King, I, Carlos King, recap the biggest moments from your favorite reality shows, including the Real Housewives franchise, the drama, the alliances, and the tea everybody's talking about. To hear this and more, listen to Reality with the King on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Chapter 2: How does the conversation transition to personal experiences?

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I told you depression is real. You tried to deny it. No, I said depression was fake. You never heard me say depression was fake. I'm not depressed. What I'm just saying, like, you know, you got to do things to just kind of get your... Yeah. Get the morale going up.

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Yeah, it's Friday.

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It's Friday! That is true. That is true. All right, so Maul had sex last night, sponsored by Boost Mobile. I didn't have sex. I wish I had sex last night. You ain't have... You ain't boost her? Nah, man. She didn't want unlimited talk, text, and chatter. Like, she... I told her I had it for her. They would come to the house right now and give her the new iPhone, but she wasn't going for that.

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I know you be on your phone sometimes focused on other stuff, but I always try to pay attention to Damaris and Peej like pre-recording banter. Yeah. I just overheard that Damaris dubbed Peej for a nightcap. Left him at the front step. I didn't. He was like, oh, I come upstairs.

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I was on. Well, the main reason was I was on FaceTime. And if I would have said, please, you want to come upstairs for a second and got off the phone, that would have been a whole other issue. But he bought me food and the card. He bought me his key card.

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Yeah. So he bought you food, a key card. He couldn't come upstairs to get a little pickle.

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Well, I would have.

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But he.

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i'm sorry all right so pickle tickle is crazy so you didn't even that's how it works i thought yeah you bring the key card you just took your pickle tickled so you didn't you didn't let him upstairs because oh he didn't try he was like all right well i guess i'll see you know it's awkward you gotta step to your business beach yeah you gotta let them know when you get to the door with the food like listen dessert is right here yeah this is food this is the this is the entree dessert though

Chapter 3: What insights are shared about the gambling scandal?

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She had on a little number. Yeah. What number you had on? Three? What number was that last night, baby D3? What did I have on, Pete?

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This little number.

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And look at Pete. He remember, Pete, what she had on. Little nightgown, little nightie. Quick little robe over.

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You know, he'd throw the little robe over.

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Yeah, but you showed a little lace so he knew what time. Yeah. On the outside, it's giving, like, you know, respectful. Underneath, though, it's party time underneath that robe. Party time. You know what's underneath that robe, Peej. Nah. Peej just wait for a little breeze to hit her. And what's crazy is, what did Maris need a key card for when Peej is the first one to the studio?

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At 11 o'clock at night, would you need a key card?

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Like, Peej could just let you in the studio in the morning.

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I had a meeting today and I took it here. So I needed his key card.

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Got you. Yeah.

Chapter 4: How does the discussion about Michael Jordan's gambling habits unfold?

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So I don't know if he's thus forgotten it because I'm not that important in Lupe's life that he could see me in triggering his brain. I don't like this guy. Yeah, I never understood that because you never said anything. Only compliment. Yeah, crazy. I found out he had me confused with somebody else. OK, but but not so you're good. Then you get on the boat.

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International Waters Lupe Fiasco with a samurai sword? Yeah. I'm petrified. But I mean, he'll probably just, you know, he'll be protecting the boat. It'll be like Steven Seagal's on the ship with you, so just... He'll be a pirate? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've seen Under Siege, right? Yeah. But something about the concept of not being able to leave is kind of scary, but I'm excited.

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Yeah, it's going to be dope, man. I'm very, very excited. The locks on the boat, dead Prez, buckshot Smith and Wesson. Mm-hmm. Very, very, very hip-hop. But it should be cool, though. I'm excited to sing every word to Nappy Roots' Poe folks. Front row. Afeon Crockett. Oh, Tony Robbins. Oh, man. Tony Robbins is going to be there? Yeah. Tony Robbins is one of the funniest dudes ever.

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Jazzy Jeff's going to be there. Jazzy Jeff. That's going to be a cool little, yeah, that's a cool little cruise, though. I'm excited. And everybody's confirmed? Yeah. Because, you know, some people back out. Well, I mean, I'll let you know when I get on the boat. Okay, all right. Like, who didn't get their passport?

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But you got to understand, like, in the Bahamas, back that ass up with Juvenile and his whole band. But that's always in the Bahamas. You know white people love Back That Ass Up. That plays on every cruise. It'll be live now, though. Yeah, now that's the difference. Back That Ass Up on the cruise. You got to pull your own thong to the side. Like, there's no way.

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Pulling your own thong to the side is... You got to, like, you got to show off. Yo, this is just a party. We not in the room yet. Like, everybody relax. Keep your thong centered. What's funny is if you're on the dance floor pulling the thong aside, it won't change anything. Oh, no, that'll change something.

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Let somebody pull their thong to the side on the dance floor and see how much change is in that party. There's going to be a whole lot of change happening. Is there, like, prison cells and shit on boats? They have, like, rooms if, like... They put you in a room, like, where they put Jack in Titanic?

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Yeah. Yeah. No, actually, they just handcuff you to the bed.

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Always at the bottom. Always at the bottom. If you start getting a little unruly and they can't control you, I mean, obviously, security's on the boat as well. Yeah, they have rooms dedicated for that. Well, I'm excited to meet the aunties. Oh, they're going to be there. They're going to be there. It's going to be a lot of aunties. Tell my aunties I said what's happening. For sure.

Chapter 5: What concerns are raised about Michael Jordan's AI appearance?

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See, I hate when someone says something and then you start, your brain starts to see it. It does look a little odd. It's too clean. The makeup is, look at Mike. He's still got the yellow Henny eyes though. Well, he can always, you can't AI those out. You got to keep it as authentic as possible. You know how to color correct. You got to give Mike the whiskey eyes.

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Can you just add a little yellow into them shits?

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Chapter 6: How does the NBA's need for superstars impact its strategy?

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Look at Mike. Great tan. I hate that now that I'm looking at it, I kind of see what you're saying. Look at the backdrop. He don't even look real, though. Yeah, Mike Tirico, he never looked that stunning and handsome. But maybe it's just post-production, like, cleanup. It is post-production. It's called artificial intelligence. But even then, with Mike's likeness, like, remember NBA Live?

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Chapter 7: What theories are discussed regarding Michael Jordan's involvement with gambling?

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He was the only player. He was player number 99. Like, he wouldn't even sell his likeness to a video game. I mean, he hasn't since then, though. He's on 2K now. All right. He's on 2K. No, no, I know. I'm just saying, how much would it cost for Jordan's likeness? I don't know. I mean, he obviously has a relationship with NBC and the NBA.

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I think they were more than ecstatic for him to even agree to do this because Michael Jordan doesn't do a bunch of interviews. And it's dope to see it. I mean, the NBA... I love what Colin Coward had to say. The NBA does need... You know, it's... It's a lack of superstars in the NBA right now.

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So they are trying to do things to make the game more interesting, to make, you know, get people to tune in. The fact that they're still using Michael Jordan for that, you know, to an extent it's like it shows maybe how down bad they are trying to find the next superstar to NBA. LeBron is older. Kevin Durant is older.

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Chapter 8: What are the craziest lies shared in the voicemail segment?

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Steph is older. So it's like the NBA is trying things, man. They're trying to keep the viewers entertained and keep them tuning in. But yeah, this is a theory. Just a theory. I was watching this and I was just like, because I feel like we got to question everything we see now. I agree with you. But also, I feel like if Mike committed to this, he would just go do it.

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What would really be the point of just pre-recording your shit and then doing the AI? Mike would show up to do this. Because, again, I don't know how long these are and how many he has to do, but asking Michael Jordan to sit down for an interview weekly, that costs a lot. Like this is not getting Michael Jordan to take time out of his day weekly to sit down and do an interview.

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Now, again, maybe he's paying a debt back. Maybe he owes the NBA something. They could have done this. They could have shot this. This could have been a two hour interview and they just chop it up 10 minutes throughout the season. Yeah, I think it's going to be. But as I'm saying, I want to go forward. I just want to keep an eye on how long these are. Does he change? Is he wearing the same thing?

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That don't mean nothing. Y'all done recorded three episodes and changed outfit three different times in one day. Yeah, but that was for three episodes. He's going to be doing this throughout the entire NBA season. I don't know how many games. I don't know that number yet. I'm thinking it's going to be more than 30 games, though.

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Does he address what's going on in the NBA because he was an alleged gambler? Mike has to talk. The same way the fans put pressure on us that we have to talk about something when it happens, when it's related to us. Mike can't skip over the gambling NBA question if he's there weekly. No, we're not skipping over that, Mike. I mean, he can't. You signed up to talk. You have to address it.

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You know what? I do want to see them ask Mike that. And based on his answer, I'm going to know if that's AI or not. Based on his ads, I'm going to know, like, that ain't Michael Jeffery. That's AI. Man, I wish hip-hop would get into this gambling space. Like, the way we're talking, the sites that have that. You think rappers don't gamble? No, of course they gamble.

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I'm saying the way they have it on those websites where you can guess. Whose album's going to be trashed? Or just numbers-wise, if I know for a fact a label's buying this many streams or this many bots or this, that, I'm going to bet on those first week numbers. Because I got inside information. Now you're just throwing money away. I would never take that bet.

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If I knew a label, because you can somewhat project what an artist is going to sell based off their last project and what's currently happening. And I know how many streams they're trying to buy. Yeah, I'm betting on the over under of a first week sales for sure. I just feel like I think there's no business. The only business I feel like is dirtier than the music business is boxing. Yeah.

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So the music business, they see everybody taking the over on this artist streaming this. Man, you think they're not going to hit that switch? Like, nah, man, fuck that. We ain't cashing out all these niggas. What I'm talking about is illegal. I know the switch sometimes when it flips. I want to bet on it. I want to make some money. Shit, even they had Who Will Win the Survivor.

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