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Episode 428 | Nutcrackers

02 Dec 2025

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

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This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.

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This financial literacy month, we are talking about the one investment most people ignore, building a business around the life you actually want.

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It was just us making happen whatever he said was going to happen, and then it happened.

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Chapter 2: How does the conversation shift to financial literacy?

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On Dos Amigos, entrepreneurs like Amir Kassam and Joe Huff get real about money, taking risks, and why your dream might be the smartest move.

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At the end of my life, what am I really going to care about? And the conclusion I came to is what I did to make the world a better place in whatever way.

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Listen to Dos Amigos on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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On the CINO Show podcast, each episode invites you into a raw, unfiltered conversations about recovery, resilience, and redemption. On a recent episode, I sit down with actor, cultural icon, Danny Trejo to talk about addiction, transformation, and the power of second chances.

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The entire season two is now available to binge, featuring powerful conversations with guests like Tiffany Addish, Johnny Knoxville, and more. I'm an alcoholic, and without this drug, I'm gonna die. Listen to CINO Show on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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It's Financial Literacy Month and the podcast Eating While Broke is bringing real conversations about money, growth, and building your future. This month, hear from top streamer Zoe Spencer and venture capitalist Lakeisha Landrum-Pierre as they share their journeys from starting out to leveling up. There's an economic component to communities thriving.

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If there's not enough money and entrepreneurship happening in communities, they fail. Listen to Eating While Broke from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Daniel Alarcon, and this is my friend who's much more famous than I am.

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I wouldn't go that far, but I'm John Green, co-host of the podcast The Away End with my old friend Daniel. On our podcast The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important.

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Listen to The Away End with Daniel Alarcon and John Green on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and iHeart Podcast presents Soccer Moms. So I'm Leanne. Yeah. This is my best friend Janet. Hey. And we have been joined at the hip since high school. A redacted amount of years later, we're still joined at the hip.

Chapter 3: What are the implications of aging discussed?

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I will bring the soup in. Turkey noodle soup. Yeah. Apparently, that's a thing. People was in my DMs like, nah, that's a thing, turkey noodle soup. I was like, what? Had no idea. I mean, do you guys not like chicken noodle soup? It's like that, but better. It's okay. I'm not a big fan, but it's all right. Um... I found out Fat Joe almost killed my cousin over Thanksgiving. That was fun. Okay.

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Fat Joe almost killed your cousin? Like, he almost hit him? So, my cousins were leaving the garden after St. John's had played. Okay. And, you know, Fat Joe is like the mayor of the garden. He's going to be no matter who's playing. Does Red Storm next? Whatever. Yeah. So, I guess Fat Joe was in a car...

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That, you know, when someone's trying to lay low, like you would expect Fat Joe, because we know Fat Joe has a lot of money. He would be in the best of cars. But some celebrities just like to lay low. And I'm going to be in something a little different. I'm not going to say what the car was, but he pulled up when they were leaving the garden.

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And my cousin, without hesitation, said, car in the shop, Joe? Oh, yeah. He should have got a fast look. He said, Fat Joe, like this, and then just started laughing.

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Yeah.

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But he was like, nah, he thought about it. Like, he wasn't joking. He was going to kill my cousin. He's probably getting a ride to his car. Yeah, yeah, chill, chill. He's probably getting a ride to the car. I know how that goes sometimes. Nah, some people just... Celebrities... It wasn't a bad car, but, you know, you got to lay low.

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In the city, if he pulls up in a Phantom, then everyone's like, yo, what the fuck? I mean, New York, there's nice cars everywhere, though. You ain't got to lay low in New York. Yeah. But, I mean, it was a chill holiday for the most part. Yeah. Yeah. My pops only said, like, a few inappropriate things. It was all right. Aw, man. He was supposed to go all the way in, man. This is the year.

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He got to give it all. He got to give it his all this holiday. There was one that was crazy that I cannot say on this show.

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Come on.

Chapter 4: What insights are shared about T-Pain's comments on the music industry?

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I did, but I had to get up in the morning to go to Syracuse that morning.

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And then you went home and cooked.

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No, I went home and went to sleep. I went directly to sleep. I was so fucking tired. I was tired at the show. Nodding off. And he was like, we should go home. I'm like, we should. Because I'm about to fall asleep.

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In the event that you start dating somebody in the summer, don't spend Thanksgiving together. I feel like you're kind of required if you stay together for the next Thanksgiving to spend together. That's a year as a change. So if you meet Christmas, around Christmas, and so next year Thanksgiving, y'all spending? Yeah. I think so. I mean, yeah, it's almost a year.

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You're not going to meet the family in a year? I think she's required to spend Christmas with him.

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Yeah. With you? You mean yours? With you guys going on?

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I don't have anything going on.

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Oh, okay.

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I'm like... I don't know where you was going with that. I've never seen you flustered before. I'm not flustered. I'm just not talking about it. I'm not flustered about a goddamn thing.

Chapter 5: What does T-Pain mean by brotherhood in the music industry?

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Brother means nothing to the people in the music industry. If your music industry friends are like... I don't know if things are in that way. You can't say that because I don't operate that way, but I don't expect other people to operate that way.

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And I don't either, but we can't say brother means nothing to people in the music industry because to some people in the music industry, brother does mean something. And I have plenty of examples of brothers in the music industry. For sure. So that's why, you know, just, just say brother don't mean nothing to Catholic.

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It's okay. Nor does Palestine. Yeah, nor does Palestine. It's okay. Just say that. But don't make it a music industry thing because we do know the music industry is very cutthroat and it's very fucked up. But we also do know we have a lot of great relationships, great friends, and great family in the music industry as well. All right. If Khaled got super cold after the second album...

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Do you think T-Pain would be like, yo, let's do a record in 2025? And pain never got cold to me. I'm just using an example. Do we think T-Pain would do the same thing? No. I don't think so. You think he'd be like, all right, let's, Khaled, because we had those first two projects, let's, in 2025, I got you.

Chapter 6: How do Rory and Mal rank Philly rappers?

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Yeah, we've seen artists do it all the time. Artists that had hot records in the 90s, early 2000s, and then they come back in 2025 and be like, shit, Nas and Premier about to put out their first album. I mean, weird. No, I'm just saying, but they gave us something in the 90s and been teasing an album for years. 15 years, I want to say.

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Maybe more.

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And now it's finally here. One of them picked up the phone and was like, yo, you know what I'm saying? And Nas could have been like, yo, you ain't that hot right now to me.

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I'm just saying apples and bowling balls I'm just saying he could've I'm just saying he could've he could've especially coming off all the hit boy shit getting his first Grammy I just don't put Khaled and Premier in the same no I'm talking about the relationship yeah I'm talking about people still you know holding people to a certain regard no matter if they hot cold whatever it is if we make good chemistry together make good songs make good music together

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I don't care if you're not hot right now. We made some shit together, and we probably still got some shit in the hard drive that we need to go revisit. But, I mean, that speaks to Preem's character, too, because Preem will work with anyone. That's why I think he's a GOAT outside of all the amazing shit he did.

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Him and Nas' relationship started when Nas was nobody at 19 and gave him New York State of Mind. Preem was already on. RuPaul had been out.

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Mm-hmm.

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Nas was nobody. He was like, yo, I got you. Preem is just a different type of human being in that regard. If he fucks with you, it doesn't matter how popular you are, he'll do it. So say fuck and say brother means nothing to Khaled. But Preem is an amazing human being that I can speak to.

Chapter 7: What are the key moments from the Thanksgiving dinner?

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I don't know Khaled. I know Preem. I know Preem well. Say brother means nothing to Khaled. Don't say to people in the music industry. That's all I'm saying.

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um do we want to stay just quickly in music um not that i mean this may be more of a patreon thing i'm just a rap nerd beans put out his list the top five philly rappers excluding himself i was actually curious what your list would be um philly rap yeah so this is beans top five greatest philly without him of course number one black thought number two young chris three freeway four meek mill five gilly

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Excluding him. Yeah.

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I would want to hear where y'all put Beans on there.

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I know he excluded him, but y'all should. Beans is number two to me. My list would be Black Thought 1, Beans 2, Freeway 3, Chris 4, Actually, I got to stop lying.

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I'm capping.

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I don't know where to put Eve.

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I'm capping right now.

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You need to just cap and I'm having meat solo. Beans is number one. I'm not mad at Beans being number one. Beans is one of my favorite rappers. Black Thought is a fucking alien. He could probably rap better than 99% of niggas on planet Earth. I would say 100%. But I don't listen to Black Thought as much as I listen to Beans.

Chapter 8: How do Rory and Mal reflect on their parents in the voicemails?

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Okay. I'm not familiar with Gilly's pen.

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No, Gilly's a great rapper. Yeah, no, Gilly raps. Gilly's a really, really, really good rapper. He does. He raps better than Eve. Just wondering. Yeah. Gilly raps better than Meek. Yeah. But I put Meek there just because of what Meek has accomplished with songs. But Gilly rap better than Meek. For sure. I think Meek would probably say that. No, he does. It's not... I mean, it's not... He does.

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Gilly... Listen, a lot of y'all met Gilly through podcasting. Like... Yeah, it worked. You know what I'm saying? I remember when G was trying to sign Gilly. Yeah, was putting out... You know, he was dropping joints. He was on every fucking DVD. Like, Gilly definitely raps better than a lot of people think. And a lot of people really don't know Gilly's... You know, his bars like that.

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But trust and believe, he's definitely one of the illest ever from Philly. And to put some respect just on Philly, period. I mean, the way people talk about... Hov taking young Chris' flow. People would say the same thing about Wayne when everything shifted. It was a Gilly flow. It was definitely a Gilly flow. I mean, Philly. Gilly said you was wearing soft toe Reeboks when I met you.

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See, I wasn't watching. Gilly's flow is iconic. The way Wayne, we talk about being so influential, like there's a Gilly flow. Yeah. Like I'm not on the side that he goes for everything for Wayne or I don't want to get in the weeds of that. But Philly, between Detroit and Philly, I think are probably the two best cities of just straight rapping. Like if you just got to rap.

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New York's not in there? Just to rap? Not song. He not to my song. Yeah, I'm just talking just to rap. Just bars. Philly and Detroit there, man. That's top two to you? You bugging the fuck out, man. You think Detroit rap better than New York. You crazy as a motherfucker. All right, Big Pun versus Eminem. And you know I'm not even a Big M fan like that. Why you snatch Big Pun?

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Because I'm doing New York.

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How did you get the two best? That was horrible. See, this is what they try to do.

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