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Episode 429 | DebateCast Greatest Peaks

04 Dec 2025

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

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This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. This financial literacy month, we are talking about the one investment most people ignore, building a business around the life you actually want.

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It was just us making happen whatever he said was going to happen, and then it happened.

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On Dos Amigos, entrepreneurs like Amir Kassam and Joe Huff get real about money, taking risks, and why your dream might be the smartest move. At the end of my life, what am I really going to care about? And the conclusion I came to is what I did to make the world a better place in whatever way. Listen to Dos Amigos on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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On the CINO Show podcast, each episode invites you into a raw, unfiltered conversations about recovery, resilience, and redemption. On a recent episode, I sit down with actor, cultural icon, Danny Trejo to talk about addiction, transformation, and the power of second chances.

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The entire season two is now available to binge, featuring powerful conversations with guests like Tiffany Addish, Johnny Knoxville, and more. I'm an alcoholic, and without this drug, I'm gonna die. Listen to CINO Show on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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It's Financial Literacy Month and the podcast Eating While Broke is bringing real conversations about money, growth, and building your future. This month, hear from top streamer Zoe Spencer and venture capitalist Lakeisha Landrum-Pierre as they share their journeys from starting out to leveling up.

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There's an economic component to communities thriving. If there's not enough money and entrepreneurship happening in communities, they fail.

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Listen to Eating While Broke from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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I'm Daniel Alarcon, and this is my friend who's much more famous than I am. I wouldn't go that far, but I'm John Green, co-host of the podcast The Away End with my old friend Daniel.

Chapter 2: How do generational differences affect music recognition?

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Can you name a celebrity?

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I don't know, bro.

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Can you name a celebrity? That's Keith Sweat. All right. Can you name a celebrity? The reason why Keith Sweat is crazy is because Keith Sweat is way older than him.

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How do you know Keith Sweat but not know him? I don't know Keith Sweat. Can you name a celebrity? Isn't that, um, no, that's not. All right, but is this one of those things where it's like the fake content? No, no, this is real. I think it's real. But this is why those kids are probably like 18, 19. That's why I'd be so bad at this like on the street content.

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Cause if somebody came with the idea, let's show people Nelly. I'd be like, why are we wasting our time? Everyone's going to guess that. That is crazy that people can see a picture of Nelly, like young kids, 18, let's say 17, 19, 20 years old.

Chapter 3: What is the significance of a three-album run in music?

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And don't know who he is. Like, dude, I'm trying to. But see, again, the biggest artists for three years when they were like two years old. Yeah, but you can't say that, Baby D, because I knew if you showed me a picture of Marvin Gaye when I was 19, I would know. Marvin Gaye is one of the biggest artists of all time. Nelly is one of the biggest rappers of all time. In top what? What do you mean?

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If you're doing biggest rappers of all time in top what? I mean, definitely from his time in 2000, 2003. That's from his time. Are you saying Marvin Gaye is one of the biggest artists of all time? We all should know Marvin Gaye. He has a diamond rap album.

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With physical copies. Yes. That's one of the biggest rap artists of all time. I understand that. If you go by numbers, Fetty Wap would be one of the biggest rap artists of all time.

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Chapter 4: How do peak careers compare to consistent ones in music?

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Should be on this list for best peaks. And there's one of the people, there's people who would not recognize him because the longevity was not there when it came to the career.

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longevity is more important when you want the kids to know who you are but Nelly is still currently like active he's still like on social media he's still like on shows he's still he didn't just have a peak and then disappeared forever and we don't know he disappeared for a long time a long time Nelly is back now and back doing shit and we're seeing him because he got a shot he started dating Ashanti that became a thing Ashanti got pregnant he got a show Nelly disappeared for years on years on years

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Where nobody was talking about him. As much as I want to defend the youth, I still like... I feel like artists that are 30 years prior to my existence, I would know who the fuck they are. There were also less artists back then. These kids are exposed to so much more music than we ever were. So much more music.

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And on top of that... Which makes it easier for this era because in the 2000s, there wasn't thousands of artists the way there is now. The big artists, who we knew about, we either learned through our parents... Or because they were on all types of commercials and this and that and the albums were hanging up in the Target windows and we were going and physically shopping.

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The celebrity was so much more different. Now there's hundreds fucking of them. And if you go into your phone, if somebody is not in your algorithm, which we say all the time, if this ain't in my algorithm, I didn't even know they dropped something. I didn't even know that happened because it's not in your algorithm. Are you seeing what I'm saying?

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These kids have been growing up in the digital age, being accustomed to digital fucking artists. Like Nelly, I can understand why somebody wouldn't know who Nelly was. I can understand. To me, that's a parent's thing.

Chapter 5: What impact do celebrity relationships have on public recognition?

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Maybe. It starts in the home. You're right. It starts in the home, Rory. You're absolutely right. It's the parents. This is why the Democrats are ruining the nuclear family. Yeah, yeah. So no one can identify Nelly. It's the parents. No, but that really, why I know a lot of the artists before my time is because my parents were listening to them.

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Like, I wouldn't, if I didn't grow up in the household I grew up in, I don't know if I'd be able to spot Phil Collins out the gate. Yeah. But I can because he was in my house. Mm-hmm. And let's, and so now they're like 18, 19, right? Which means that their parents are probably between your age and your age. How often do y'all play Nelly? Every night before I go to bed. You know what I'm saying?

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And giving Nelly all his shit, but let's be fucking for real. How often are y'all playing Nelly? I got Amara a sports set that came with a basketball hoop, the soccer thing, and a baseball bat. And I played Nelly batter up when she picked up the bat. And I was like, oh, we could go.

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That's so cool.

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But that's not something that you're playing back to back to back to back. That's not what you're- No, I'm not in the crib just banging Nelly's hits back to back to back.

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No.

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I fuck with Nelly, but if you came to my crib and you heard Nelly begging, you'd be like, yo, you going? You all right? What you doing? I mean, I like shit.

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Because it's all in my head.

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You better relax. That's my shit right there. You better relax. That's my shit. Exactly. That's something I actually would play in my crib. That's my shit. But that's not something that you're going to go to to put your kids on to. Nelly, I'm playing dilemma for Amara when she's like of age. I'm sure.

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