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New Rory & MAL

Episode 432 | Underrated

11 Dec 2025

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

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This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.

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This is Julian Edelman, host of Games With Names. On our latest episode, we got comedian Blake Anderson from Workaholics and the hilarious This Is Important podcast. Let's go! We did beat them in improv. You had an improv against the team? Yes, we would pull up their schools, would be there with signs for us. It's competition. What you would win is a bottle of Goldschlager.

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James Fester threw it out of a van because he didn't want us drinking it. For more Games With Names, visit the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. On paper, the three hosts of the Nick Dick and Paul show are geniuses. We can explain how AI works, data centers, but there are certain things that we don't necessarily understand.

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Better version of play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Yes.

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Which, by the way, wasn't Taylor Swift who said that for the first time. I actually, I thought it was. I got that wrong.

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But hey, no one's perfect. We're pretty close, though. Listen to the Nick Dick and Paul show on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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It's Financial Literacy Month and the podcast Eating While Broke is bringing real conversations about money, growth and building your future. This month, hear from top streamer Zoe Spencer and venture capitalist Lakeisha Landrum-Pierre as they share their journeys from starting out to leveling up.

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There's an economic component to communities thriving. If there's not enough money and entrepreneurship happening in communities, they fail.

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Listen to Eating While Broke from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Chapter 2: How did the hosts feel about underrated years in music?

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That's what reality TV is for. It's to turn your brain off for a second. Everything needs to move your mind. No, no. If I'm watching baddies, I can be on my phone and watch baddies at the same time. Oh, no. That's one of those phones off. Turn the Wi-Fi off. I don't got to be super locked in to know what's going on with baddies. I know who about to fight. I know what they fighting about.

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Somebody ripped somebody's wig. Yeah. You come out the back. Babe, what'd I miss? They fighting again. They still fighting. All right, I got it. I understand. Speaking of which, I want to thank both you guys. All her fault. I'm on episode five. I cannot wait to leave here to finish the entire series.

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You still have episode five for the past 12 hours.

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ADHD. No, I had to put my daughter to sleep. Rory's good with shows. Yeah, I'll binge two seasons in one day if I can. I'll move from the TV, put it on my phone while I'm doing errands. I'm one of those people. But I will say, and we're going to talk about this for the remainder of the week, so no spoiler alerts yet. It's one of the best shows I've seen in quite some time. Told you.

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It's incredible. It belongs in that same category. COVID year with The Undoing and Your Honor. The Night Of. It's in that. When I started watching it, I was like, this feels like it should have came out during the pandemic when we had all of those great shows.

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I was telling Damaris on text yesterday, putting Shiv and Suge together may have been the greatest casting call I've seen in quite some time.

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Shiv would be Siobhan from Succession and Sugar from The Bear.

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i didn't recognize i recognized sugar but i couldn't figure out where she was from which means you're doing a really good job at acting if i'm like i know your face but i can't pick out the character and i was like oh i know it's a good show and it's like a you know a thriller and drama and all these things but one time she she was walking around the house she had them pants on she looked like she was holding back no no no let me tell you did you watch succession yeah y'all she's been holding since season one i wrote it in the group chat and i felt creepy so i unsent it

Chapter 3: What were the most memorable albums from 2003?

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you saw it peach oh i was wondering what that was i was watching it because and i felt real creepy because it was like 8 30 in the morning nine o'clock in the morning i was like you're looking at ass i was like man shiv ass fat ass fuck you know what let me let me we used to joke you know those like quick cuts they used to do in succession like how the cinematography is we used to joke i wonder how many times the dp just did that to shiv's thighs yeah

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And they styled her so well in that show that they always picked pants that held it up, too.

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It looked like she got thicker. When I was watching it in this, I'm like, Shiv got thick. Shiv looked good. I'm sorry, Sarah Snook.

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Thank you. Sarah Snook. But to your point of Suge and Shiv, both those people you think would be typecast because they both have iconic characters in other shows, they don't act like those characters at all. No. All her fault. Even Lawrence, I think, is a great actor. But Lawrence acts the same way in Insecure as he did in Top Gun. Yeah. That's fucked up.

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no he's a good act like he's great in the show but his range i definitely was like yo lauren's like go get isa dog or maybe lauren's just that iconic of a character it's like you know how lauren's uh leave la and it's flying jets right now which is my jay ellis the actor but even when i was watching him in all her fall i was just waiting for him to say fuck that's i was just waiting for him to say it like

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Yeah, he's forever. He's forever. Like, that's an iconic character. Well, I mean, this is the only spoiler I will give because it's not that big of a pivotal part of All Her Fault. When you find out that Lawrence is fucking Suge, in my head, I was like, man, Issa was right. He do like white girls. Stop. He tried to parlay it all into a whole new... Same universe. I got it. No, that was Lawrence.

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He just moved on and... It's All Her Fault. It's all Issa's fault. That's the only problem with that show, though. And, I mean, Maul's probably going to call me gay, but...

Chapter 4: How did 1998 influence the music industry?

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That's not, there's no way Lauren, like look at Lawrence. He's not dating an older white woman. He's a good, he's a very good looking guy. And I'm not saying first of all, shit, sugar is beautiful, but I'm just saying like they're not even in the same age bracket.

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well abby elliot abby isn't old they're probably he's probably older than her white people age worse okay myself abby elliot is what 38 no way oh shit my bad she doesn't look that she doesn't even look that old you're being me she don't even look that old well the roles that they put her in like right there she doesn't it looks amazing but when they make her shug and make her uh leah leah like they're trying to make it look like a she's like an old addict on that show

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So they made her look less attractive.

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She's the younger sister. Yo, you're funny as hell, bro. I'm crying. But I don't know.

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Great show, though. Huh? Great show. Great show. I'm so glad you guys haven't spoiled anything. I do not know if we owe the husband an apology or he's the biggest. That's what I want to talk about.

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Yeah, I wait for you to get here.

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Chill. I used to have a bunch of theories. Now I'm kind of I have none. Everything they try to make it seem like it's going to be something. I mean, at the end of the day, I just think the adopted mom did everything. See, the undoing, I ain't going to lie. You was on the side of the sun, did it at once in the undoing. I'm sure I was. Yeah, yeah. I think you yelled that out.

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I thought the person that passed on the sidewalk did it. I thought extra number three did it. I can't wait to finish this, though, so we can really talk about it. Is it just one season? Yeah. It's like a limited series, right? Or does it end where it looks like it could be a season two?

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No, it's a limited series, for sure.

Chapter 5: What is the significance of 2011 in music history?

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Now you can hear Cam, right? Now you can hear Cam.

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Now when you say it, you can hear Cam. Yo.

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Oh, man.

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Now I got to look at what else Camden wrote.

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Yeah, again, it's just funny hearing those stories of Nas writing Big Willie style, 50 writing Puff's verse on Let's Get It. One of the most iconic Diddy verses was just a young Curtis Jackson. Crazy. My name is Diddy. I run this city. He went... To now executive producing the record. It's just crazy. It's life. Life is just. It's awful. It all comes back, man.

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So maybe they should have Cameron on The View. Isn't she on The View now? The one that the girls from 3LW? Yeah. Adrienne Bailon. Adrienne Bailon? Yeah. She's still on The View? I feel like they switched that cast so much. I don't know who's on The View no more.

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Cam wrote part of Crush on You by Lil' Cam. He has writing credits on Crush on You and Gone by Kanye West.

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Well, I mean, he raps on it. Yeah, that makes sense. Sorry. My bad. I think he's writing credits on Purple Haze, too. Camp? Maybe. Go to hell.

Chapter 6: What makes Beyoncé's album 'Lemonade' impactful?

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See, that's it gets... No, it's still there because you have take care, watch the throne, watch... Sean, Finally Famous, Lupe, Lasers, Beyonce 4. We went through the clip that went viral. Rihanna talked that talk. Weekend, Cocaine 80s, Frank Ocean. It's there.

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I'm going to add Born This Way by Lady Gaga, which is like...

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whoa revered i'm not saying it needs to be top three but the fact that complex doesn't even have it on its top 20 is like yeah with those with those albums you just named alone it could be that's top 20 that's the same yeah um but i mean i guess i don't know everyone just says 98 i'm going to 03 just because of my age but i was kind of mad my birth year wasn't on this shit well yeah my year was trash wasn't shit going on including your birth like wasn't like when nobody wasn't shit going on

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Even when you was born, there wasn't shit going on.

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A lot of women shit during childbirth. Wait, let's see who has the best birth year out of all three of us.

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Because I feel like my birth year... Here comes the fucking meteorologist. I feel like my birth year gonna smoke you niggas birth. What year was you born? 94. Was Saturn rising at the time? Just tell us why yours would be. Actually, 94 is number one on the complex list.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, no... All right, so you're 81, right? Yeah. All right, let's do 81 first. 81, 90, 94. Damaris is, without me looking, I feel like Damaris is probably going to clean us the fuck up. Only seven albums came out of 81?

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All albums, Josh, not just hip hop. Yes.

Chapter 7: How do personal experiences shape music appreciation?

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So... Come on.

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First of all, Luther Vandross never too much came out in 1981. Yeah. So... Yeah. I mean, I'm feeling like 81 was the greatest year in music. That's just how I'm feeling. That's just how you feel? Yeah, that's just how I feel right now. What's on the Earth, Wind & Fire raise offhand? I don't know. And Stevie Wonder, Hotter Than July. Come on, man. One of the greatest artists ever.

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I'm just saying, 81 was a great year. It was a great year as far as I'm concerned. We got some important albums from some important artists in 1981. Oh, wait, hold on. Gap Band 3 came out then, too. Yearning For Your Love came out in 1981.

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All right, that's cool.

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Some great songs. Some great songs. Great artists. All right, Rory, you're what, 91? 90. 90? Oh, fuck. Go to yours. All right, let's go. L.B. DeVoe, Poison. Okay. LL Cool J, Mama Said Knock You Out. Okay. Cool G Rap, Wanted Dead or Alive, one of the most underrated rap albums. America's Most Wanted, Ice Cube. Damn. Brand Nubian, One For All.

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See, but that's not fair because by that time, hip hop was a little older. So it's like, you know what I mean? Hip hop was still so young when I was born. It was like, see what I'm saying? Johnny Gill. Self-titled album. 90 was kind of weird, but I'm all right here. Now, y'all got some good albums, though.

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Okay, now go to mine, please. Thank you, 94.

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Fucking Illmatic, Ready to Die.

Chapter 8: What insights do the hosts share about the evolution of music?

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Like, what we doing?

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Illmatic, Ready to Die. Outkast, Southern Playlist, The Cadillac, Funky Music. Warren G, Regulate. Gangstar, Hard to Earn. Common Resurrection.

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yeah age ain't nothing but a number crazy sexy cool black street brandy super tight come on i'll get up on it by keith sweat mariah's christmas album my life mary j came out in the air so oh yeah no it's not even close that's that's above the rim soundtrack the best decide Yeah, that's one of the best. Crazy, sexy, cool cameo. Yeah, what we doing? Yeah, that's a lot of shit.

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Just let me know what we doing.

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Yeah, that's too many records. You bragging, but Maul was the only one listening to those albums in 1994. You and I were... Yeah, that's one thing I can speak to it. Those are some classic albums.

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Rhythm of Love, Anita Baker.

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The fact that Illmatic, Ready to Die... Crazy, sexy, cool. Like those are like three iconic albums. Two by Boyz II Men came out and that's like huge. Boyz II Men. I mean, to me, 2016 would have to be my version of 94 of like actually remembering all iconic albums being put out in one year. 2016 is the last iconic year for me.

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2020 might have something to say.

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2020 is an underrated year in music.

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