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New Rory & MAL

Episode 442 | The Fall Off

15 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What did J. Cole announce about 'The Fall Off'?

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5.878 - 9.483 Rory

I'm Daniel Alarcón, and this is my friend who's much more famous than I am.

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9.783 - 14.69 Mal

I wouldn't go that far, but I'm John Green, co-host of the podcast The Away End with my old friend Daniel.

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On our podcast The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important.

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Listen to The Away End with Daniel Alarcon and John Green on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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It'll be quiet now.

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It's getting chilly outside.

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Nah, it's time.

Chapter 2: What are Rory and Mal's initial reactions to the album trailer?

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It is. It's scary hours. This is the scariest hour I've ever been a part of. Yeah. Very scared. Couldn't get no sleep. He wanted war games. Only got more pain. Who is that about? Poor thing. How you feeling, man? You good? I'm excited. Yeah? I'm very excited. What's going on? So you were talking about J. Cole. You can apologize to me.

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Because I know you want this to be the apologize to Maul episode. Now you can apologize to me for saying, hey, I think you were talking about J. Cole.

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Chapter 3: What features might we expect on J. Cole's new project?

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And you were like, no way I was talking about J. Cole.

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No, I said you said J. Cole.

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Poor thing wanted war games, only got more pain. It's quoting lines already. Off the snippet. Classic. Do we think it's the intro? It's hot. I bet it is hot. It's hot. Yeah, man. I'm sure that it's hot for Iceman. I got peas to laugh. Why are you so quiet? It's a podcast. No, I thought you were getting your skill. Listen, I'm just an avid hip-hop fan that's excited for music. That's all.

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Yes, yes. New music.

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Chapter 4: How does Baby D feel about the new music announcement?

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It's always good to have new music.

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You know that. Well, okay. I mean, I won't apologize to you because I didn't wrong you. You know I don't need an apology for nothing. But yes, we... We had heard that maybe Cole would be dropping on Christmas. That didn't happen last week. Thought maybe it could happen. Today, as of January 14th, he announces that on February 6th, we will be getting the fall off.

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He dropped a teaser with a little snippet in there. Cut it off right before he started rapping. I'm excited, man. Vinyls, $50. I already saw Damaris. She's in the hospital and already posted her receipt.

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She couldn't wait to get healthy to buy a vinyl. We don't even offer health insurance. She better have her ass in here. She needs to save her money. She better have her ass in here Monday or there's going to be another fall off. That's crazy. And we will call Damaris in a second. But no, I don't like you now playing coy now that the mics are on. Like, what's up, man? War's back on. What war?

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But guess who ain't going crack? Part of me had to laugh at that.

Chapter 5: What was the significance of Cole dropping 'Disc 2-Track 2' during recording?

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Why are y'all trying to do this another year, man? Do what? We can't be excited that one of the greatest rappers of our generation is putting out his most anticipated album.

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196.687 - 212.675 Baby D

Yes. He did the intro to the fall off on KOD, which was, I don't know. I think I was 11 when that came out. Yeah. It's been 30 years since then. Yeah. I am very excited that we're finally getting the fall off. I liked, I didn't know who was, this just dropped, so forgive us for fact checking.

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I don't know who's speaking in this trailer, but the voiceover is alluding to the fact that, yeah, man, people get famous and then they fall off, but we don't even focus on what it even takes to get to a point where you can fall off. Like the most, the people that fall off, like, dog, at least you got to that point. I thought it was a really cool trailer. I liked the concept of this album.

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But I mean, I'm ecstatic. Two more weeks.

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Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. No, you're not. I am.

Chapter 6: How do Rory and Mal interpret the new snippet from J. Cole?

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You know I'm looking forward to this album. You know I'm looking forward to that. Should we do a listening party? I don't know if we're doing all of that, but yeah, I'm looking forward to it.

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We should drive to North Carolina.

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And listen to it there in North Carolina. Yeah, yeah. Just in the street. Just drive to North Carolina. Just pick a town. Yeah.

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Drive to Durham. Go past Fayetteville. Yeah.

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Just find a town and just listen. Listen to it, yeah. So we can really understand and feel the music.

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Okay. I know you want to deny on mic that you were talking about J. Cole. Or, of course, a good journalist would never give up their sources.

Chapter 7: What insights do they share about J. Cole's lyrical themes?

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I think that's like journalism 101, unless you're talking about Watergate or some shit. Right. Have you heard anything about what is on this album since you did have some knowledge to when it would be released?

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Yeah, I heard some things about it. Can you share any of those? I mean, I didn't hear no music or anything like that. But, you know. some of the content, maybe some of the features, maybe that's how you. No, I don't know about any features. Okay. I don't, I don't know about any features. Um, and honestly, I don't care to know. I'd rather just hear it when I hear it.

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Like, yeah, I don't really care to know about, you know, that much detail in it, but I did, um, hear that the album was dropping, uh, It was slated to drop last week, but obviously February 6th is the official date now. Don't know if it was pushed or whatever, but I had very good information that it was slated to drop January 9th.

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320.837 - 336.673 Baby D

I mean, the vinyl game is much different. They get turned over quickly, especially if you're somebody like J. Cole that can afford to turn vinyls over very quickly. I mean, great strategy this far out to start selling vinyls because your first week numbers will be great, especially if you're someone like Cole. Mm-hmm.

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Chapter 8: What are the predictions for the release of 'The Fall Off'?

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I could see vinyls being a thing, though, regardless of maybe having to push two things when, you know, this trailer could have been shot.

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He understands the optics. Like you said, most anticipated album. It would be a good move to have this on vinyl as well. Yeah. This is a collector's, obviously going to be a collector's piece that a lot of his fan base is probably going to want to have. And then people like ourselves, we just, we've been into vinyl, you know, for some years now.

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So, yeah, so I think that it's, you know, it's a smart move.

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But either way, happy that we finally got an official release date from Cole himself. So yeah, now we get to sit back in and wait in anticipation to hear one of the best rappers of his generation hear what they did.

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Can I be like a YouTuber, Redditor person? I kind of feel like... You may have been right with the Christmas thing based off the date. I think you were wrong last week. 2626 is the date. And then 2525 with the Christmas shit. I think that it was either Christmas or this date is what I think Cole was going for. I don't think he would have passed up 2626 for last week, in my opinion.

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But I'm a nerd. I like shit like that.

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Mm hmm.

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Do you think that Poe really dug in his back? The fact that I was born on the 26th, you think that he kind of made that part of it? You think he went that deep? You think that he got that introspective? Do you think he really went... I'm intelligent.

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