Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
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Chapter 2: How does the conversation shift to Jay-Z's influence on rap beef?
We would have killed Frazier if he didn't ask that question. Yeah, he had to. He had to ask that. But I mean, ironically, the response to that is kind of what Jay was getting at. He was suggesting that maybe where the stakes are now and where rap is now The rap beef may not be healthy for the culture the way that it is weaponized, where it's, you know, trying to ruin people's lives.
The stands on the Internet all come together to try and ruin your family. And, you know, maybe that's not the best way to push the culture forward. You can be competitive on a record instead of doing a rap beef. There can still be the competitive nature, but maybe it shouldn't be in regards to how far maybe some of the recent beefs have gone. And they fucking smoked him for saying that.
And I'm not mad at people for it. Yeah, I understand the pushback that people have on that. Only because I think it's necessary. I mean, if you talk about, you know, and especially from Hov's standpoint, I understand Jay is obviously the elder statesman now.
He's in a different space, you know, in his life where he maybe views things obviously differently than he did when he was so embedded in music and in rap and in the competitive nature of it all. But I think that that's part of it, man. I think that's, you know, battling is part of hip hop. It's part of rap. It's a competitive thing. Who's the better MC?
You know, we have the debates all the time, whether it's, you know, in the barbershops, on the block, you know, group chats, wherever, whether it's online now, you know, social media, wherever you have these conversations and these debates, because it's all subjective art.
You know, people are going to listen to things and they're going to pick their favorites and debate them and say why I feel like this person is better than that person. I don't think you could ever remove that. I do understand how things now. are, you know, discussed is a little differently.
It's a little more polarizing because so many people have or what can be heard or be seen via social media. But I don't think we, you know, getting rid of it or it not being healthy or, you know, progressive for rap. I don't agree with that, you know, because you always got to.
you always got to figure out through rap and through, and through art, you know, who's the better artist, who's the better, you know, especially in rap. Like that's just, I don't know what rap is without that. Well, can you, can you do that in the way that Jay said, as far as being competitive on a record together? Yeah, you can. Absolutely. I think it's both.
I think you can be competitive on a record. And I think that, you know, in times, uh, you know, MCs and artists are going to have disagreements or have, you know, ways they feel about each other. And if they, if they decide to express that through the music, you know, I would rather them do it through the music than to actually run into each other in the streets and it become physical.
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Chapter 3: What insights are shared about Jay-Z and J. Cole's relationship?
Is that too far? Because that fucks with somebody's livelihood, family, dreams, everything. If I say something about you on Wax and we just keep it on Wax. Why are you now making moves behind the scene that's affecting my income and my opportunities within this business? And I'm not saying, Jay, it was always a rumor. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. That's just talk.
Maybe the person that, you know, got into a little back and forth or had a little spat with you, maybe that person just wasn't talented enough to really, you know, to surpass or continue forward in their career. Like maybe it was just that. I guess what I'm really saying is is it Uchiwali or is it one mic? Like you can't have, it either has to be, Viva's going to be toxic.
Like it's always going to come with something negative as well while we're entertained by an audio bloodsport. Like it's going to come, it's quote unquote war. Like it's always going to be, so that's what I'm saying, is it Uchiwali or one mic? Like you can't have- As far as what though? You can't,
say hey maybe we should pull back on some of this because it's getting out of hand when i mean the rules have have been there of it's a battle type of thing and it's war like you can make moves behind the scenes people are even accused drake's accusing universal of doing behind the scenes because of the battle and and his negotiations like you you can't have one without the other like
Yeah, but again, Jay... It's some wire shit. Like, you want it to be one way. Yeah. And I'm saying to Hov, to quote himself, is it Uchiwali or is it one mic? You can't have... You can't have it either way. Like...
It either has to come with this and he can say pedophile at the Super Bowl and you're involved with it or you have to say straight up no more rap beefs and I don't want to be a part of it. I think you can say both. I think because that's a that's a real feeling of Jay like out of that. Because, again, he said, I don't know if it if it should be a part of the I think he knows it will always be.
But. he's more so speaking from the stance of at what cost? You know what I mean? Like, is it worth it? Is it something that, you know what I mean? Like, it's just gotten to a point where things may go too far. So he can speak to that. I think that he knows as an MC and as a rapper, I think he knows that... That's always going to be a part of it.
Battling is always going to be... MCs are going to come along and feel like, I'm better than this guy. I'm better than this guy. And they're going to want to display that. I think that's something that will always be a part of it. But it's not like he can't still feel like, damn, but I hate that part of it. I wish that part of it wasn't necessary and we didn't have to do that.
So I understand him feeling a way. My thing is... You know, again, he's a businessman, so he has to still conduct business. But you can't we can't say, yeah, damn, that's fucked up. That's crazy. But here's the biggest stage in our culture to display that message and amplify it.
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Chapter 4: How do the hosts view the impact of audits on artist relationships?
I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying. You're doing what you're supposed to do. If I was in your position, I'd probably audit my company too because that's standard. You don't know where certain money went. Shit, I don't know where all the money went with my own accounting department because we are a conglomerate. Yeah, we could owe you money. I don't fucking know.
I don't go down to accounting every day when you're at that type of level. But... nah, don't hit me when you at quad. I'm not coming through. No, I'm with you. I understand. It's funny, but I understand like what you're saying. It's like, yeah, but I don't know, man. I just don't think just knowing the type of, you know, person Jay is, I don't, I don't think he feels a way about that.
Like, I understand what you're saying though. We ain't going to be, you know, we ain't about to go get a coffee after this either.
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I just don't think that is that much, you know, that type of energy with Jay. Like I'm not fucking with Cole or he can't ask me for nothing or I'm never giving him a verse. I don't know if that's energy is attached to it. I don't, I don't think so. Yeah. Well, I should, even from the cold side, if I was ordering someone again, You're not auditing Jay-Z.
You're auditing a huge, huge record and management company. You're not auditing Sean Carter. So I wouldn't feel bad doing it if I had a really close relationship with Jay, but I would also feel weird reaching out to him after I audited him. Okay. Like even if I'm Cole, I don't know if I'd be like... You could look nuts after we're going back. I'm getting updates from my lawyer.
I'm CC'd on certain emails. I'm sure if there's been an audit just for sheer appearance, they could have had their mics muted. Jay's face and Jay Cole's face have had to be on the same Zoom at one point for legal reasons. I feel like maybe it'd be weird if I text him, yo, I'm working on this. Okay, let me ask you this. Is it Jay and Nas had their moment, right?
Both said some wild things in that battle. Nas said some things that as a man, if you say to me about me, I probably won't ever fuck with you again, right? Okay. They went on to work together after that whole thing, right? Yeah, but that's... Hold on. So is that more... Is what Nas said in the battle versus Jay more disrespectful than Cole auditing the company?
Apple's in bowling balls because... Why? Why? One is a rap battle that we can get over. And one is business. They were egregious things. I'm saying, wow, that's... It's different with that... As opposed to being currently in litigation with an audit right now. No, I get what you're saying. Jay and Nas had to sit down and clear their shit up.
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Chapter 5: What are the implications of Jay-Z's interview on the rollout of new content?
We going to roll this shit all the way out. Do you think they paused it all with, cause I really thought that it was coming out on revolt TV, obviously, but also on YouTube on Tuesday. Do you think the Jay-Z interview had them go, you know what? Just let them have the day. Nah.
Okay.
I think it's enough space for both of those to be out at the same time. Yeah. The Jay interview wasn't that long, too. It was a good interview, but it was short. Obviously, the Cam and Cole episode will be longer than Jay's GQ episode. There was a clip from 7 p.m. in Brooklyn where Cole cleared up LeBron walking around with a fall-off vinyl
Which is fucked up, because once Cole explained it, I was like, oh yeah, that makes all the sense of the world, and that's awesome. But if we've known Braun's track record, I don't think it's crazy for someone on the internet to see him walking around just with a fall-off vinyl, and be like, this is performative. This is, what are we doing here? That's not part of your fit. That's not your bag.
That definitely feels performative if you see Braun walking around with a J. Cole vinyl. It's like, all right, though. Because you could have put that in a bag. Like, you know what I'm saying? You could have put that in something. Like, nobody had to know you had a vinyl in your hand. And he didn't play in that heat game, did he? I'm not sure. Okay.
Because if he played, you definitely could have put that in your bag. Yeah. You're not going to be like, oh, shit, I left this on the seat.
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Chapter 6: How does the discussion shift to LeBron James and J. Cole's relationship?
And you're just walking into there right now. But no, I think that's cool that LeBron met with Cole's kids because they're huge LeBron fans. That's dope, man. That's dad shit, man. That's dad. That's the dad's, you know, doing something special for the kids, man. There's nothing wrong with that. But based off LeBron's track record and history, that definitely did.
They thought they caught LeBron in another performative moment. Like, all right, fam. The vinyl, you walking around with the vinyl? All right, we got you. I could see Ron having a vinyl player and all his vinyls like in his locker, but then you realize all the plastic is still on them.
no you're not playing having a vinyl player in the locker room is crazy it's like all right fam all right all right okay enough is fucking enough bro like we get it nah some of these new vinyl players are got great bluetooth and great speakers yeah man but we don't need all of that we don't need a vinyl just hit play yeah we don't need a vinyl player in the locker room cut it out um i'm sorry we dragged this this long with more cole drake and and
beast up, but honestly, I don't really know what y'all want us to do when everyone's doing press runs and finally speaking about something we've all been curious about when it came to their point of view. And it's a world where you niggas are just making whack music that we don't want to talk about. Yeet changing the game. Nah, shout out Yeet. I ain't gonna disrespect Yeet.
I'm not here to disrespect Yeet. No, he's young. We gotta give him a shot. We gotta see what he does with his moment. And shout out to Zane Lowe. You know I love Zane and I have a great relationship. Great relationship. The greatest of great. Um... Well, I mean, just quickly, because I'm not here to hate on you.
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Chapter 7: What is the significance of the March Madness bracket in music?
Just music's not for me. He did say that he is the only one of his peers, which I don't know what he considers his peers. He said that is pushing music forward or having a new sound or trying to add something into the field, which he very well may be right. But that doesn't mean it's good. You could be the only one trying to push the needle, but that doesn't mean I have to like it.
I like Jesus, but I would never be mad at someone that said, yeah, he's pushing the needle, but I don't like it. Like sometimes that's not as profound as it comes across. Even though Zayn's going to make it sound like the most profound thing he's ever heard in his entire life. Sometimes the needle should just stay where it's at because I'm cool. We got to see, man.
I love all the artists that are featured on there. Oh no, for sure. But I've never heard a good album with that many features. But listen, I'm not, Yeet can pick beats. Yeah. I'd like to hear a lot of those artists on a yeet beat. I want to, like... I'm looking for the next young artist to, like... Like, I want to, like, one of the new younger artists. Like, I want to. Define young, though.
Like, is Jid young anymore? Or is Jid now, like, in the middle... Not middle of his career, but, like, he's surpassed being a freshman, more or less. Yeah, yeah. Like, he's... He's what? I'm not even saying by age-wise, though, because... hip hop is such a weird place where it's like a bunch of 16 year olds and then people that are 35 that are finally making it. Yeah.
But like Gibbs hit his stride 15 years into his career. How old is he? He is young though, right? He's in his twenties. I would assume so. Yeah. Like I'm talking about his sound. Everything about him is young. I'm talking about guys like, I want to like somebody like that. I want to find an artist that I really like, like that.
Where it's like one of the 20 whatever year olds that has a different energy, different vibe, different sound that I just be like, you know what?
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Chapter 8: What insights are shared about Meek Mill's use of AI?
I like this. I like this, this, this kid. I like him. Um, I mean, there's a lot like, again, I think, All the rappers that were in the On The Radar, New Generation, Cypher, I think all of them are incredible and do make good music. But are you saying on the level of somebody that would be in the... Like all those guys haven't popped yet.
I think a few of them are well on their way to, it's just going to take a few more years because they're going about it the lyrical route, which takes longer. But I'm with you. I don't have anyone in that space. Like when Uzi was a freshman, I was like, okay, not all of this is for me, but I fuck with what he's doing. I see the creativity and he's doing, I fucked with some Uzi stuff.
I don't know if I feel that way about anyone that would be like a yeet peer. And maybe that's- As far as that vibe? Yeah, because that is the newer vibe. Yeah. Like, of course, there's plenty of great young lyrical rappers. I'm not one of those people that doesn't think it's perfectly balanced right now. But in that world, I'm with you.
I haven't found one where like, I shouldn't like this, but this is fire. Yeah. Yeah. I think the youngest artist, the youngest rapper I might like is probably Kodak. How old is Kodak now? 35? No way Kodak is 35. No, fuck Kodak. He's still in his 20s. Okay. Yeah, 35. I was about to say, hell no. Nah, but the way Kodak lives, like... No, no, he has years. He has years. He has years of experience.
Kodak is 50. Yeah, dog years. Like, yeah, Kodak. Yeah, Kodak, nah, that's... That's an old man right there. Yeah, but as far as, like, the 20-something-year-old rappers, like, Kodak is probably, like, my favorite rapper that I could think of that's probably still in their 20s that I'm like, I like this dude. I fuck with him heavy. That's probably Kodak.
Because even the realm of when 21 Savage came out, I love 21 Savage. And his era had some shit that I was like, this is too young for me, even though they're my age. I don't know if I've had a 21 in like the last few years.
Obviously 21 is now in the middle of his career, but the way I love 21 Savage, I haven't loved a new rapper with a different sound that isn't typically like the boom bap shit I like in a very, very long time. But Kodak's up there. Yeah. Listen, the young boy shit I'm starting to get into a little bit, but I wouldn't consider him young. I think I'm so late, obviously, to young boys.
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