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New Rory & MAL

Episode 477 | First Day Out

07 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What themes are introduced after Easter celebrations?

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This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. It's financial literacy month, and the podcast Eating While Broke is bringing real conversations about money, growth, and building your future. This month, hear from top streamer Zoe Spencer and venture capitalist Lakeisha Landrum-Pierre as they share their journeys from starting out to leveling up.

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There's an economic component to communities thriving. If there's not enough money and entrepreneurship happening in communities, they fail. Listen to Eating While Broke from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Daniel Alarcon, and this is my friend who's much more famous than I am.

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I wouldn't go that far, but I'm John Green, co-host of the podcast The Away End with my old friend Daniel. On our podcast The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup.

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Chapter 2: How do the hosts feel about the recent freestyle by Earl Sweatshirt and MIKE?

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Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important. Listen to The Away End with Daniel Alarcon and John Green on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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69.404 - 87.079 Edwin Castro

Hey, it's Edwin Castro, also known as Castro1021. And I'm Konky, his best friend and business manager. And we've got a new show called The 1021 Podcast. I'm taking you behind the scenes on how I became one of Twitch's most popular streamers. We also love sports.

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And with the World Cup right around the corner, we'll be breaking down the biggest storylines ahead of the big tournament here in the USA. Listen to the 1021 podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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If you're watching the latest season of The Real Housewives of Atlanta, you already know there's a lot to break down.

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Dorsha accusing Kelly of sleeping with a married man. They holding Kate Michelle back from fighting Drew. Pinky has financial issues.

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On the podcast, Reality with the King, I, Carlos King, recap the biggest moments from your favorite reality shows, including the Real Housewives franchise, the drama, the alliances, and the tea everybody's talking about. To hear this and more, listen to Reality with the King on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Chapter 3: What controversies arose from Wireless Fest and Ye's performances?

177.472 - 191.099 Rory

Welcome back. Top of the week. Who is excited? You are. You seem very excited. Fresh off the resurrection. The temple was empty when they went back. I mean, that's what they say. Trying to rob his grave, but he robbed his own grave. Right.

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Chapter 4: What are the implications of J. Cole's statement on hip hop classics?

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Let me take my stuff and get out of here.

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196.109 - 198.113 Mal

I knew they was coming back.

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198.228 - 200.491 Rory

Imagine if you paid for Jesus' headstone and then he was alive.

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Yeah, man. I want my money back. Yeah, I definitely want mine back. Baby D, what's up? What's up? I see you. You see me? I see you. You got the marriage shirt on.

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Yeah, you know. Shout out to our listeners that got this for me. Shout out to our Twitter community.

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I remember that night right there. That picture on the bottom left.

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We was together?

218.918 - 220 Mal

Yeah, we was together.

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Oh, we was together.

Chapter 5: What are the implications of Chloe Bailey attending Kanye West's show?

3062.916 - 3089.88 Rory

Why would you even tell the advertiser a download number? Look at my YouTube views. It's insane. But anyways, we went on a tangent there. Chloe Bailey was at the show. I was furious. The Ye Show? Why would you be furious about that? She signed a Beyonce. I don't care. I'm really joking. But they were killing her online all weekend.

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3090.417 - 3098.852 Rory

They kept showing her the tweet of the terrible things Kanye said about their children. And I honestly, like, I don't think.

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I mean, I guess I get it.

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3099.934 - 3113.82 Rory

Because Chloe Bailey is a grown woman, could do whatever the fuck she wants. I did see some of the beehive's stance on it, though. I do understand why people would be like, well, that's weird. I get it. But she might not even know that that was said.

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Yeah.

3114.633 - 3115.634 Rory

We not doing that.

3115.654 - 3119.438 Mal

Okay, no, let me, hear me out. Go ahead, go ahead, I'm listening.

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We are way deeper in the internet than people who are celebrities. Granted, people who are celebrities are, they are on the internet.

3126.986 - 3139.659 Rory

But we, because it's our job to know shit like that, that's why we know shit like that. When I talk to my friends who just have normal jobs, they're nurses, doctors, they don't know that Kanye has said shit like that. That's an internet thing.

Chapter 6: How do advertisers respond to Kanye West's controversies?

3154.633 - 3173.952 Mal

I don't think because of the Beyonce thing. No, no, no. Here's what it is. People don't care. People don't care. That's just the bottom line. And I say it all the time. People don't give a fuck. People be fake acting like they care about this and they so morally, you know, this... People don't give a fuck. They don't. Like, you'll say something as crazy as Kanye did...

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80,000 people don't give a fuck. They don't, people don't care. Like, but for Chloe to be there, it looks away. Cause it's like, yo, you're, you're signed. Like Beyonce is like, gave you a platform. Like she gave you a look like this is the biggest artist of her generation. Basically putting you under her wing. You and your sister under her wing. Yeah.

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3196.652 - 3198.194 Rory

You're not supposed to be at this show.

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3200.076 - 3209.27 Rory

All right. Y'all probably laugh at me, but how do we know they didn't have a conversation? Who? Chloe and Beyonce. About going to the show? Yeah.

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Nah.

3210.331 - 3214.355 Rory

Nah. Cause you don't ask that. You ask for forgiveness for that. You don't ask for permission.

3215.276 - 3224.745 Mal

You ain't, she ain't, they didn't, Chloe didn't have no talk. Hey, hey B, yeah, so I have yay tickets to the SoFi. I'm not, I'm not saying. How does that conversation even go?

3224.805 - 3244.772 Rory

All right. I hear you. I don't mean that type of conversation. Maybe they've had that conversation about Kanye's tweets and Beyonce was vocal that she personally did not care. I don't know if there's a world where that happens, but they could have already had that Kanye conversation. Chloe may have been in the studio with Kanye.

Chapter 7: What does J. Cole mean by 'no more universal hip hop classics'?

3308.499 - 3312.503 Mal

Because those are his children as well. No. I would never go to a Kanye show again in my life.

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3312.663 - 3317.607 Rory

Never. Yeah, I'm not going to lie. I'm just a fan and I wasn't even running to the album. Like, I ain't really.

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3317.768 - 3325.995 Mal

Kanye is talented. One of the greatest artists we've ever had. One of the greatest producers we've ever had, without a doubt. But I can't support somebody that said that about...

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3325.975 - 3353.333 Mal

j and b's kid i can't know hell no there's no way there's no there's no way i could i cannot go to the concert and do what i'm just like i'm here like i'm just no i'm not doing that bro like that's that's that was absolutely like too far and i get that people do things and make mistakes i understand all of that but sometimes it's certain things to me to me personally that i'm just like it's like no i don't have to go to that show got you like i don't i don't have to do that so it's pepsi diageo and mall

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3353.853 - 3371.338 Mal

Well, I'm not pulling out of wireless. I was never going to wireless, so I'm not pulling out of wireless. So you can't put me with Pepsi and Diageo. No, you and Pepsi. Nah, because I was never going to wireless, so I didn't pull out of wireless. Pepsi, though, however, and Diageo and PayPal. Before we get to that.

3372.095 - 3390.828 Rory

I understand your stance with your long relationship with the Carters and your family and not what is support then? Because I hear you are not going to the show. Does that mean you don't listen to Kanye? I mean, you did buy the Hitler boots. I don't know if that was before or after. That was before. That was before. That was before.

3390.848 - 3406.845 Mal

That was before. You bought the Hitler boots. The Hitler boots before. Before. Before. Yeah, yeah. The Hitler boots was cool. Before he said what he said. Before he said what he said. You know what I'm saying? We're always joking, by the way. Yeah. No, but that was before. That was before that. That was before that rant.

3406.866 - 3427.224 Rory

Okay. Because, I mean, yes, it was insane what he said about their kids, but he has also said insane things before and after that, too. I'm just trying to gauge, like everyone has their own personal line and it moves and everyone moves the goalposts for themselves sometimes. I'm a hypocrite when it comes to supporting and not supporting artists sometimes as well.

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I'm just trying to get the gauge of what the rules really are for each person.

Chapter 8: What controversy surrounds DaBaby and a painting of his children?

3563.617 - 3573.668 Rory

I don't know if I would go to a Kanye show or not. I haven't actually thought about it. Why not? I mean, outside of the moral reasons, I would love to go to a Kanye show. You would still actively go to a Kanye show?

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No, I wouldn't.

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3574.468 - 3591.338 Rory

But it's because of moral reasons. So if he's taking the moral reasoning out of it, I'm confused why he wouldn't. I would like to sound like a great person and be like, I wouldn't go because of moral reasons. I just don't know. I haven't really sat and thought. He's one of your favorite artists of all time. I don't understand why you wouldn't want to go to his show. I've seen him live.

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3591.453 - 3609.598 Rory

I mean, that show, all the clips looked incredible. But then I'd watch a stream. What's the fucking difference? There's a huge difference between watching a stream. I understand there's an actual transactional value. You are supporting someone. You are giving them your money for their entertainment. No, I also mean like it's just different watching a show live and watching it on stream.

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3609.618 - 3623.533 Rory

There's a different energy. It sounds different. I know. It just blurs the lines even more of where you stand with support versus not support. Like if I say I do not support this person, but I watch their stream of their live show.

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Well, we watch it because obviously we would have to talk about it. It's different for us. But like, you know, again, getting a ticket, going to the show. That's a little different than being home and just watching the stream.

3639.714 - 3658.809 Rory

I mean, I don't fuck with a lot of things Kanye West has said. I'm just being honest myself. I'm not sure if I would go to the show or not. I don't know at this point. And I probably won't think on it anymore, to be quite honest. But I did get my blueprint ticket. Pepsi's going to be at that one.

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No shade.

3662.736 - 3681.105 Rory

They will. Well, first of all, I understand Pepsi's stance because they did end police brutality. So Pepsi has always been on a way higher moral ground than the rest of us. So I do see why they could not... align themselves with someone like Kanye West after you end police brutality with Kendall Jenner. I like, I totally get it. It makes sense. Yeah.

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