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Episode 479 | Pay Them People

10 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What are the key topics discussed at the start of the episode?

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On paper, the three hosts of the Nick Dick and Paul show are geniuses. We can explain how AI works, data centers, but there are certain things that we don't necessarily understand. Better version of play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Yes. Which, by the way, wasn't Taylor Swift who said that for the first time. I actually, I thought it was. I got that wrong. But hey, no one's perfect.

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This month, hear from top streamer Zoe Spencer and venture capitalist Lakeisha Landrum-Pierre as they share their journeys from starting out to leveling up. There's an economic component to communities thriving. If there's not enough money and entrepreneurship happening in communities, they fail.

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Listen to Eating While Broke from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Daniel Alarcon, and this is my friend who's much more famous than I am. I wouldn't go that far, but I'm John Green, co-host of the podcast The Away End with my old friend Daniel.

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On our podcast The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important. Listen to The Away End with Daniel Alarcon and John Green on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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This is Julian Edelman, host of Games With Names.

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On our latest episode, we got comedian Blake Anderson from Workaholics and the hilarious This Is Important podcast. Let's go! We did beat them in improv. You had an improv against the team? Yes, we would pull up their schools, would be there with signs for us. It's competition. What you would win is a bottle of Goldschlager. James Fester threw it out of a van because he didn't want us drinking it.

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Chapter 2: What happened with Offset and Lil Tjay?

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In L.A. L.A., right? Yeah. Okay. No uprising there. He didn't perform Hail Hitler so far, right? Had a show in Mexico City. Didn't perform Hail Hitler there either, right?

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421.266 - 423.029 Baby D

I don't know if there's that many Jewish people in Mexico.

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I'm just saying he didn't perform the record. Yes. So what would make them believe that he would go to the UK?

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428.438 - 448.068 Baby D

But I don't think it's the performance of the record. I don't even think they're afraid of. I think they're afraid of people's reaction. To the record. Not to the record. Just him being there. So what Kanye now stands for in some people's eyes, standing for anti-Semitism, I think that just his being now stands for that. So that's what they look at.

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448.088 - 470.24 Mal

Yeah, but I just think that's just a little ridiculous. I mean, I can understand them not wanting him to perform certain songs just to push that message. I get that part. But to ban Kanye from entering the UK, that's ridiculous. I think that's just like, all right, bro. Like he wouldn't have been banned if... He wasn't performing at Wireless, right?

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I think it's safe to say that he could have went to the UK and been chilling, recording if he wanted to.

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Probably, yeah.

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So the fact that they saw these sponsors pulling out, they assumed that Wireless would then cancel the Ye performance and go book somebody else as we did, right?

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Yeah.

Chapter 3: What is the debate around family obligations when becoming successful?

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Like, so whatever. Like, he has to go sit down and meet with the board. Whatever that conversation entails. He may have to pay a fine, donate to some charity. You know how that goes. Donate some money. Spend a little bread. Spend a little bread. You know what I mean? You got to grease the palms. You know what I'm saying? That you allow back in. We know how this goes.

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But this does add to the allure of, yeah, And the story of him being the alleged bad guy and, you know, the alleged victim of it all for just freedom of speech, as he would probably say. But I do think it is a bit it's a bit too drastic to say he's banned from the UK. That's all.

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774.833 - 780.56 Baby D

Well, I know this really chapped your ass because I know you all about freedom of speech and all of that. But I don't let me be free in here.

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Now, the people knew how much your piece do we have the unedited file somewhere when it's all said and done.

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we're gonna release those files peas like just let it all burn up hell no let it go up in flames man cool i'm so cool how was your week what you went up to the fuck you've been doing while being away from me this week um i didn't really do much this week i went to my boy said i'm my boy aldo he got an album in spanish ran got an album coming out uh what's out if when you're hearing this is what we're recording thursday so it comes out at midnight uh spanish ran aldo uh rock paper scissors

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new album out tonight or out now if you're listening to this so I went to they had a listening session last night at Engine Room downtown how was that? so I stopped by it was real rap shit real Bronx shit when the ho was there? Nah, this ain't really for the, you know what I mean? This ain't that, you know what I'm saying? This is for the, you know what I mean?

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A very particular group, you know what I'm saying? But I'm excited for people to hear this project because coming off of Holy City Zoo, which is one of the best albums that year, I think this is a great follow-up for that. And I'm just happy that Aldo is finally in a zone where he's, you know, creating and releasing music.

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Him and Spanish Ran, the energy and the chemistry that they've built and created is dope. So I went to support my guys last night, but the album is out now. So stream that. Aldo, Spanish Ran, Rock, Paper, Scissor. It's that talk. It wasn't really outside though. I just went right to the engine room, to the studio. They have full... You know, niggas don't eat. It was a lot of liquor though.

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Licking weed.

Chapter 4: How do personal relationships influence financial responsibilities?

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The motherfuckers would die in my face, but I give her flowers.

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We was supposed to all watch that documentary and be like, nah, Chloe held it down. Everybody has said that though. Yeah. It ain't loud enough. It ain't loud enough. Like, cause, cause like a lot of y'all wouldn't do that. He was cheating. Fuck that nigga. I would get him help. I would get him help for sure. She got him help.

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She had him rehab, like personal rehab. And that nigga went back to smoking crack. Honestly, by the way, I meant to ask you, did they ever say that he stopped smoking crack? Like, did they ever conclude, yo, Lamar Odom is off crack?

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Or did they just give him money for a doc for him to go buy more crack? Well, well, baby D, when you're an addict, you know that it's one day at a time. And all we can hope is that Lamar is taking his recovery one day at a time.

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ah that's all i don't know i don't know sorry i'm just hoping that it's one day at a time for lamar and he's you know every day one step at a time that's all okay one step at a time but um yeah man prayers to offset pay to pay them people man they're not playing hey hey offset Hey, Offset, look, man. You know we fuck with you up here. I'm going to keep it real. Them Bronx niggas ain't playing.

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Give TJ that bread. Whatever you owe him, send that wire, my nigga. He ain't playing. Obviously. He's not playing with you. Nah, once you shoot me, we even. I'm not giving you no bread after you shot at me, bitch. Fuck you. Man, not where I'm from. A nigga shoots you and you just, you know what I mean, laid up, you all right? That's just a warning. That's the account number.

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The account number was on that bullet. Send that wire, fam. We not playing. Send that bread.

1698.434 - 1711.919 Baby D

That 10K? Yeah, we need that. I really think it's the audacity. It's the audacity of you not paying me back. Because if you come to me and be like, yo, bro, I'm not going to lie to you. I'm down bad. Like, I'm down bad. I can't afford to pay you back right now. I don't think niggas is going to shoot at you.

1711.939 - 1720.677 Mal

Yeah, but if you down, bad, down, bad, down, bad, and I bump into you at the casino, first of all, is that my 10K you about to start getting? I need that.

Chapter 5: What are the implications of family obligations in the music industry?

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What? Mall. Sweep the barbershop. Nigga, you doing something. Yeah, you need that.

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2883.225 - 2889.635 Baby D

I understand that. But what I mean, when I say netball, baby, I mean like giving him an opportunity in the media industry.

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2890.376 - 2911.562 Mal

Nah, you don't want no part of this shit. That you and his uncles. You don't want no part of this shit. Not the media space. Because you know what's interesting about the media space? People get so hung up on my opinion is just one of eight million in my city. There's eight million opinions in New York City. Very true. Right? Mine is just one of them.

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But people will hold you to that and get mad and call you names, Dick Rod. It's like, bro, it's mad opinions out here in the world. This is mine. This is my point of view, my story, my feelings. Like, so I don't know if I would want I would want my kid to do something creative for sure. I think I think that I think we should all create. Yeah.

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2934.713 - 2937.317 Baby D

He wouldn't have to be a talking head like us.

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But I want him to be I want him or her. I don't want to say him. I would want him or her to do something creative because with technology and shit, a lot of these.

Chapter 6: How does technology impact creative careers?

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Positions, you know, these things that people do now is going to kind of be phased out. I think so with technology. I think the one thing that I think technology can't really interfere with is going to be like arts, things to do with art. Whether it be like, you know, music, architecture, building, design, things like that.

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Now, I know technology can come in and phase some of those out, but I think there's always going to forever be a lane for artists and entertainers.

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Technology can be implemented into entertainment.

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Yeah.

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But you're still going to need people to entertain and to create ways of entertainment for people. So I would definitely want my kids to do something in the artistic space for sure.

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Okay.

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I would love for my kids to do something and things that I wasn't brave enough to do. Um, like strip.

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Is you cool? I'm so fucking, I feel like every woman thought about it at least once before. You will go to a small town where nobody knew you just to see how much you were making one night.

Chapter 7: What are the challenges of pursuing a creative path?

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I don't, you may I baby D scenario. Okay. You go to a small town. Hold on. Huh?

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Last time I'll do the podcast. Yeah.

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because more want to see me naked that's really what this shit is I don't want to see you naked but I'm just saying I feel like everyone like if you was able to go to a small town one night and you cashed out 10 bands cash baby D you going back next Saturday don't tell me you not no because if you went to a small town nobody know baby D it doesn't matter you get on the stage they ain't never seen chocolate like that and you walk out of there and you count 10k

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Mom. You're not going back next... I will drop you off again next Saturday.

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3045.785 - 3051.336 Baby D

Mom, if I did what I was supposed to do and lock in, I could make 10K off of a brand deal without having to show my asshole.

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Yeah, but it's only an hour you got to show the ass, though. Look how much free time you got. I'm just trying to give you, I'm just trying to give you freedom, baby.

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I'm just trying to not have you at the job for so many hours. It's just not, it's not my personality, but I would love for my kids to go into something like screenwriting, directing, like those type of things that I think I would have been good at, but I wasn't really brave enough to do. Cause I was afraid, afraid to fail. I had a real bad fear of failure. That's probably my biggest fear.

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I think that comes from environment though. Like having the fear of failure comes from, I think, the people you're around growing up. Like that's something because I don't, you're not born with that. You're not born with a fear of failure. No. You're taught that.

Chapter 8: What new music releases are anticipated this weekend?

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So you can be around people, you can be around, it's like, you know, whether you have parents that support your ideas, that's why it's important to support your kids' ideas and their dreams because you're like, oh, no, you ain't going to do it. Go in there and get in them books. You're going to college. You're going to this. You're going to that.

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Like, damn, I could do that too, but I want to do this.

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3115.586 - 3120.753 Baby D

I had parents that was, I still have parents that would support anything I chose to do. My, like anything. My dad would.

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Nah, we had that talk.

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3121.453 - 3139.817 Baby D

Your mom's hung up on you. When I support. Like if I said I wanted to be a recording artist, my dad would build me a studio. Like they would support anything I wanted to do. The issue is that I have a fear of loss of security. So I will always go with the safe option because I'm terrified of losing security.

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But how many times in your life have you been scared of, something, a moment, not knowing whether it's work, whether it's moving, whether it's... And you be like, damn, how am I going to get out of this? And then you look up and that shit was five years ago and you perfectly fine. You straight. It happens. It happens a lot.

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I think that only... I'm not going to say... Listen, and I don't want to sound fucked up, baby D, but I be feeling like niggas that's like just fucked up, like... Bro, that's you. You a fucked up nigga. You a piece of shit, bro. Let's just keep it a thousand. It's you. Yeah. Because I feel like if you somebody that's like, because we all been in a position like, damn, I'm fucked up. Rent, dude.

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Car note. Damn, how the fuck I'm going to, I got to move out. I got to find a new spot. Damn, they just fired me at my job. I got to get a new job. You always in a position where you like, you don't know what's next. Mm-hmm. Not once did I end up sleeping on the train is all I'm saying. I'm just saying. You're very blessed. For sure. I am, right?

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But I feel like when you see the ones out there, it's like, bro, you know why I say this? Perfect example. This kid I grew up with right on my block. So my neighborhood was co-op buildings, right?

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