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Episode 498 | Hard as Nailz

26 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

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This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. Hey guys, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions.

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Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but you know. Tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy? Not quite.

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On Humor Me with Robert Smigel and Friends, me and hilarious guests from Jim Gaffigan to Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guests, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an acapella band with their between songs banter. Who's the worst singer in the group? The worst?

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yeah me is there anything to the idea that because you're from harvard uh you only got in because your parents made a huge donation to the group the yard birds right that's the name the harvard yard but they're open do you have a name suggestion we're open since you guys are middle-aged uh one erection

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Listen to Humor Me with Robert Smigel and friends on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Humor me. I need some jokes to make me seem funny. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas.

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And I'm CJ Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season, and I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments. If we didn't talk ever again, I was crying. You just understood. That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that game seven, Marquis coming to me, he's like, you know I love you, dog.

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You know it's all love. This was just playoffs. This was just basketball. So listen to Point Game on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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This week on Crimeless, Rory and I welcome a very special guest.

Chapter 2: What are the crew's thoughts on Memorial Day plans?

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He's like, shh, it's okay. Don't fight it.

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anyway i don't even remember anyway yes we watched the passion of the christ so we in the basement church we had to watch like jesus movies but we never watched the passion like more the pg version i don't want to know what he was doing in the basement of my church getting it in on the phone and say you need me christ watch over the fish plates on sale fish plates on sale

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Did y'all do anything this weekend? I wish y'all could hear the hour conversation we have before we turn these cameras off. Did y'all do anything this weekend? Nah, it was fucking raining all weekend. Raining, cold outside. Yeah, it was in the house. It was nasty this weekend. This was a washout weekend.

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This was a weekend to just stay in the crib, clean, get everything in order for spring, you know, switch your closets around, get rid of old shit, bring in some new shit. That's what I did this weekend. I don't know what I did, but that's what I did. Nah, I was literally in the house. I wanted to go to the porn minus shit.

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Couldn't get a babysitter, but it was pouring rain, so I was like, it's whatever. So I didn't even mind coming in today. It was raining again. Like this, this, this whole Memorial Day weekend was just whatever. But I mean, I did watch the greatest team of all time, the Knicks. Shout out to the New York Knickerbockers.

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Hopefully as you're hearing this, we already got the brooms out and we're headed to the finals. Hopefully when you're hearing this, we completed the sweep. We shall see. We are recording on Monday and the game is tonight. Rosie asked me to go out to watch the game. I might take her up on that offer since I was in the house for three days. We outside? Yeah.

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I mean, we, well, you know, Rosie wants to be extra. She wants to bring brooms to a bar. I'm like, it's all right. Let's just take a few shots and watch the Knicks. Bring brooms to the bar. Me and Peej, me and Peej went through two fucking pitchers the other night. What was it? Game two? No, it was game three. Nah, we watched game two. It was game three? Game three. Oh yeah, game three. Yeah.

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Two pitchers, baby. How come you never invite me, Maul, or Ryan? Uh, y'all like ran out. Get your story straight. Y'all ran out. Y'all ran out after work. Mall ran out. Oh, that was Thursday. Oh, yeah. That was game two. Yeah. Mall ran out. You had to go. We'll do whatever. You ran out early. I had to get a more. Yeah, that was game two. Yeah, it was game two. Me and Peach were chilling around.

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We walked to our favorite bar. We won't say where it is in the area. Got two seats at the bar. They said they had a $25 per person minimum. Me and Peach was like, that's two pitchers. I was about to say, that's a drink in Brooklyn. That's nothing. People were complaining about it. About a $25 pitcher? $25 minimum per person. Who's complaining about that? In New York City.

Chapter 3: How did the Knicks perform on Memorial Day weekend?

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which would be called an instrumental. And how do you edit the disc? Like, what do you take as a disc? Like, nope, that's a disc. Take that out. The whole record is a disc. And is it just like. The hook is a disc. Is it just like, just the instrumental during it? Or it's like, do he replace the lines or? Nah, he took it out and he kind of like moved the instruments up.

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It's like, you know, he edited, he went into like, he had the stems. He just took the discs out. So now it's just music and the hook, Too Hard for the Radio. Yeah, that was... Hey, it was doing too much right there, though. Just a little bit. Cut that shit out. He said, I will not platform somebody separating the coast. Separating the coast. Ryan, did you feel like... Yeah, you're from the Bay.

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Did you feel like he was trying to separate the Bay and LA? Nah. Not at all? Song slaps? Yeah, that shit slaps. Yeah, that shit slaps. Shout out to the big three. One, two, eight, three on the chart. Oh, man. That's some funny shit, man. Drake, you a funny nigga, man. I just, I don't know why you would give him that easy of a W, but I mean, either way, I laughed all Sunday morning.

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Like, thank you for giving me a good, good Sunday morning laugh. Like I needed that. Yeah, man. Like I laughed out loud. This is part of it. This is part of the, you know, it's time to laugh now. You know what I like about Head is if we, if Head was in here and we would ask him about this, he would have the straightest face. He would not chuckle like not once.

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Like he would be dead ass explaining that shit. And to me, that's his humor. That would be funny. That's his humor, yeah. He deadass about that shit. He would triple down on it and try to explain to us how he's separating the 405. Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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Hey, ain't nobody download that shit. Nobody want to hear them edits you made. Ain't nobody playing that song with edits that you made. Also, what's funny is if you're a DJ, you can pick the part that you want to play. Yeah. Why would I need to get that? Like in Serato, you very well can just go, you know what? I think I'll play this section and then I'll switch it.

Chapter 4: What are the implications of confirmation bias in music criticism?

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Yeah. You land on that at the end of the conversation when I'm saying, like, I may not like him, but he's one of the greatest that would do it. But I think some people get stuck in their own way of hating an artist when they first come out and now have to, for some reason...

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stand on that like almost like some skip Bayless LeBron shit like I've entered this world that I dislike this person so I'm going to discredit every achievement that they possibly have without even really paying attention because I think there's plenty of people that hated Drake when thank me later came out and didn't like I'm more than just the option hey hey I can see someone disliking that and then never investing in any of the projects so they're walking around being like yo I think his all shit is trash and haven't even listened to most of it yeah I get it that makes sense

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and have made that part of their personality. But it's just not for you. And then there's also people with confirmation bias, right? So you can not like somebody in the very beginning, right? And then... despite everything else that you hear, the moment you hear something that is like, ah, see, this is trash. Like, it's like a confirmation. Like sometimes all of our favorite rappers do it.

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But since we're talking about Drake, sometimes Drake has bars and it's like, nigga, why you say that? Like, you know what I'm saying? Chaining Tatum was- Chaining Tatum, shit like Chaining Tatum, for example. Made my stomach hurt. Even as a fan, you like, nigga, why the fuck would you say that? But to people who are not fans- All of our favorites got those. I just said that.

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When Kanye was dripping swag goo, I was about to fucking throw up.

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yeah we i just said all of our favorites have said that but when you hear something like that as someone who already didn't like the person it's like see like what the fuck is this shit like it's a confirmation by it like it's just a lot of that online right now but i mean that's all breaking down the iceman album they're like oh this fucking bar is trash i'm like but what about the bar right after that

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Like, why you ain't talking about the next, literally the next bar? Why you ain't break that bar down? So I get it. Like I said, I understand it. It's part of this. It's not for them.

Chapter 5: How do artists' estates handle their legacy after death?

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Yeah, it's part of this thing that we're in. So I understand it. I just, you know. I just sit back and laugh. But your head, that was crazy. To make your own edits. I'm comfortable saying that's hate. That's hate. We can identify certain things that are hate. That's hate. That's definitely hate. Which is cool. I've hated before. Yeah. We all have a little hate in our heart. That's hate.

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That's hate. DJ Hate is the biggest hater. DJ Hate is crazy. DJ Hate was popping. DJ Hate is a little dragged. I'm just saying, I always hate what he did, though. DJ Hayden, Gina Views from the 6th? Gina Views from the 6th. That's funny. I would say A.I. Rich Homie Quan is not for me. Definitely not for me. That's not for me. No, I don't support that. It came from his estate.

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So like, OK, that is your choice. But I would ask why? Yeah. Why? It's just it's just a little. Yeah, I just I don't know, man. And, you know, I understand it is, you know, I guess keeping the energy alive, keeping the, you know, the legacy going.

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Chapter 6: What are the potential impacts of AI on music creation?

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But it's just a little... I don't know, man. It's just... Tone deaf to your own family member is a little crazy. But again, everyone grieves different. And I don't want to get too much into it. I think it's distasteful. But that, again, is his estate. Even the name of the song, everything about it is fucking gross to me. But... It is their choice. It's not like someone else is exploiting it.

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That's what they wanted to do. But it does have me thinking that sometimes, especially creatives, artists, whatever, your estate may not know what the fuck to do with your art because they don't understand your art. Yeah. Like, God forbid, if I passed away and my mother's controlling my estate, I don't think she'd have the best tools to know what would be good to do a tribute on the pot. Yeah.

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Because she doesn't understand this world or what works and what doesn't. Someone may just go up to her and be like, here's a way that you can honor your son and also keep money coming in for Amara. And I'm sure my mom would be like, oh yeah, money in for Amara? Let's do it. And then it'd be a fucking hologram of me next to you. It's like, whoa. Podding together? Oh, Jesus Christ.

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It would have to be two holograms because I'm not doing that. A hologram of Amara? He's still alive. It's funny as fuck. Yeah, I'm not doing that. A hologram of me and I'm live tweeting like, yo, that shit trash. That shit trash. Like, I don't support that. So y'all wouldn't want, y'all wouldn't want, let's, I mean, we have these conversations because we're in business together.

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You wouldn't want anything AI? Of me? No. No, thank you. Let me rest. I'm cool. Now, if y'all want to run back some old clips and do that, cool. But not no new shit that I didn't say for real. Like, none of that. Don't start pumping out new clips of shit that I didn't say or shit based off of a software and technology that I might say. Like, no, no, no, no, no.

Chapter 7: What happened during Ray J's MMA debut?

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No, but if you think about it, we could kind of use you with all the takes that we're too scared to say that would get like a bunch of clicks. You're not here, so we can just make you say them. And we'd be like, Maul, that's crazy. Why would you say that? Nah. You know how many viral moments we would have if we get to control what you say?

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If we just take all of Peach, the stuff that Peach has cut out from the beginning of the episode? Bro, we would make your nephew a multi-millionaire in six months. That's like when dudes get arrested and they be like, nah, he killed him. When homie, his man is dead. Like, I ain't really snitching, he's dead. It ain't like they gonna do jail time.

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Well, I agree with that, but I'm not from the streets. No, no, I agree with that. I'm putting everything on my dad, homie. Put all murders on me if I'm dead. That's what I'm saying. If I'm dead and y'all want to put some hot takes on me that might shake things up, go ahead. AI that. All right.

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What if you and Damaris had maybe an argument right before you passed and she still felt a little bitter towards you and she programs AI Maul to be the biggest J. Cole fan of all time? Oh, no. Then I'm going to be her sleep paralysis demon. That's crazy. Every night. Every night. All she wait is, will we survive the let out?

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She gonna be like, eyes open, can't move, and I'm gonna be writing up rooms. You see how I was talking about confirmation bias? Niggas always bring up, can we survive the let out? They'll skip over mad heat, but bring up, can we survive the let out? I told you I love side A of the fall off. Straight. What's the Tim's record though? That's my shit though.

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Yeah, that's on side A. That's the one, shout out to Boz. The Boz wrote. What's the name of it, though? Buntz and Roll Blues. I like that record. Buntz Roll Blues. Buntz and Roll Blues. We think about Jalen too much. Oh, Buntz Roll. Buntz Roll Blues. You know Buntz Roll. No, I know Buntz and Roll. If these niggas win this championship, they going to name Fifth Avenue Buntz and Roll.

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I was about to say. That's going to be Buntz and Roll. I'm telling you right now.

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yeah athab just gonna be jalen way yeah we should just find other ways to remix that's a fact they had did that at one they did that at one point right then wasn't they naming different streets after the players for like i think it was i think it was the first round of the playoffs they did that yeah it was like josh hart uh way some shit like that like i remember they had did that one year i don't know if that was last year the year before i don't know because jeter doesn't have anything right shit he needs it

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Because that'd be kind of crazy if we do that, but Jeter hasn't gotten his flowers yet. Jerome Ave should be Jeter Ave for sure. For sure. Yeah, see, they had a Knicks roster receive street co-namings with major intersections honoring key players like Jalen Brunson, Carlton Towns, Mikael Bridges, Josh Hardy, OG. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, Dykeman should be Mariano Rivera Ave. For sure.

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