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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
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Chapter 2: What were the highlights from the Roots Picnic?
He got Rory feet picked. He ran off on the back end. He got my feet for 50% off.
Yo. That's crazy.
Yo.
oh my god man souls and oh yo souls and oh yeah call it souls in the hole souls are three holes there you go but no i don't think i'm gonna sell feet pics because what if my husband has a foot fetish then like i'm technically like giving out like his favorite part of my body for like i've given that out like i don't do that he gotta fall back Come on.
No, but if that's his fetish, I don't want if that's my husband's fetish, then he should be the only one seeing my feet. Like the only one seeing your feet. The Netflix flash. Maybe the only one touching your feet, sucking on your toes, but seeing them. You talk about like it's like your balloon knot. Like if you go to the beach, you're not going to wear shoes. Yeah.
Like seeing your husband should be the only one that sees your feet. Well, I mean, obviously, if we're out at the sand, but I'm talking about like he should be the only person with a foot fetish that comes across my feet and a fetish like what? Like, he should be the only one seeing me step on a banana.
I'm using all restraint to make any your man desire jokes right now because I don't want to go down that path. But they're teed up right now. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, I think you're thinking too much into it, baby. No, maybe I'm not. Maybe that's a conversation I've already had. I'm sure that's a conversation you already had. I know that's a conversation.
I know that's a conversation you already had. But it's like, he got to chill, son. Tell him to call me. Tell him to call me. I'll holler at him. I'll get him, homie. Just chill. Fall back. Oh, he already said no disrespect to you. Let baby get that bag and just, you know what I mean? It's just pictures, homie. That's it. You know what I mean? It's just pictures. Didn't you say foot fetish?
I mean, foot only fans leads to like ass only fans. Didn't you say that? Didn't you say it's a gateway drug? It is a gateway. It starts at the feet. Yeah. Because when you get undressed, typically what you take off first? Your shoes. Right. Follow me. Follow me down the yellow brick road, baby D. So now you starting at the feet, right?
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Chapter 3: How does Jay-Z address his critics in the freestyle?
Roots Picnic, they trying to get their label. Yeah, I know. Fight the streams. I don't want to give Magma any ammo. No. But I will say, it's exactly what you guys thought it was. It was a lot of blue hair. It was a lot of septum piercings. A lot of lesbians. I know. Exactly what you thought it was. I know. I know. So two days, the elevators are a fucking mess.
Like I was like, why did I pick the hotel that has a fucking convention? They were all staying there and the convention was there. So it was a nightmare just to even leave my room. I was like, is it worth 20 minutes on the elevator? Two days pass is cool. It's whatever. But one of these commie bastards floods their bathtub. Above my room. Oh my God. And floods my entire fucking room.
Are you serious? Oh my God. And it's completely sold out. I got literally the last room when I booked my route shit. Every hotel is completely fucking booked. So now I just got to sit in the mildew room. I got the windows open. I bought like seven candles. They got people coming in trying to vacuum this shit up. That ain't going to work. So I already have like a little disdain for these commies.
Mm-hmm.
you know, I started watching Russian footage, Cuba footage. Like I'm starting to get, I can feel my powers against communists coming back while it's dripping on top of my fucking head. Like now I know how Kennedy felt. So it's the last, this is last night. I'm going to go meet Sean. He's at a restaurant and Ubers were tough. So.
it was like 14 minutes till my Uber came and they were doing their, their like farewell party in the lobby, like not in the, the, the rooms and shit, like in front desk sitting there waiting and they got an open bar. Yeah. I'm like the least they owe me at this point, I might as well get a drink while I wait for my, my Uber, go up to the communist party bar.
And they said, sorry, sir, if you don't have a wristband, I have to charge you for this drink. Oh, they bought out the bar. It's communism, Mo. Yeah, but I'm just saying. Give me my fucking free drink. Nah, you don't believe in communism, right? You just capitalism me. Nah, you believe. If I don't have a band, if I didn't pay for a band, I can't get a drink. You believe in capitalism.
They believe in capitalism.
They're not your shit, yo.
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of Jay-Z's freestyle on his relationships?
Okay. I will fast forward. I went to the after party that Jermaine Dupri was throwing. And the first moment I saw him, he said, I need you to FaceTime Maul right now. I said, JD, we're at a, we're at a, we're in a club. We're at a party in a section. B Cox, Sean, pretty women. He said, FaceTime Maul. He didn't even say hello, Rory. FaceTime Maul right now. Yeah. I give him my phone.
Maul answers. JD doesn't say hi to Maul. He starts screaming in a club around women. Pick a side of the family. Oh my God. And just starts fucking screaming. Terrifying the whole. What side of the family are you picking? And mind you, it was funny in the club, but all of us around in the section were like, what side are you going to pick?
Yeah.
Y'all are crazy, man. You and I have not spoken this weekend. No. I have been at the edge of my seat and we could do a breakdown of this freestyle first. But that's where my head is at at the moment. No one wins when the family feuds. And it's your family. You're the feud. It depends on who in the family is feuding. It depends on who in the family is feuding. But I will say this, though.
The funny shit about all of this is drake is the one that told me about this this freestyle because i was watching the spurs game Like I wasn't online. I wasn't, I wasn't online. It was game seven was on, you know, the Knicks is waiting. I'm trying to see who the Knicks going to get. Like, so I'm not even paying attention to my phone. Nothing. So I think it was halftime or something.
So I look at my phone and I see texts from, from, from, from Drake and I'm just reading it. And I'm like, I'm like, okay, so he did. He did, which we all said was probably going to happen. Won't get into what our conversation was from there. He said, nigga, get your uncle. No, he didn't say that. That's so great. He's talking to Drake during this. I'm next to Biggs on the riser. I chose a side.
I'm with Biggs. Biggs is on the riser with us. I don't know what's happening. So everything that we're talking about, I don't even know what was said. So he was picking out certain things that he said. But the one thing that Drake said was like, yo, but what's up with the hair? That was with everybody. Now, mind you, I haven't seen a picture. They're going to kill Drake for that because they
nevermind no but what's up with the hairs what everybody was saying like everybody was shocked at jay's we've never seen jay with afro that is a fact and the last time we saw him he had wicks down in the middle of his back so it was kind of like like is that a wig is he cosplaying right now is this some nwa is this some is he on his easy e in all right is that in um in drake's defense at
Not saying that's what Drake said, but that's what the internet was saying. Like, yo, nobody understood the hair at first. Niggas got into the lyrics and the bars after they got past the look, the aesthetic of it. Because we've never seen Hov like that. At the show...
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Chapter 5: What does Jay-Z's freestyle reveal about his relationships with other artists?
Nigga, Jay-Z ain't talking about no weird shit. Jay gonna keep it raps. I think it would have gotten weird even if he never said that. No, it wouldn't have. I think it would have gotten weird. Before that record came out, shit was cool. I'm not talking, we're not, but we're not speaking to the actual people involved in the battle.
We're speaking to everything around it and the fans and the stands and they made shit weird and unfun to talk about. That's part of it now though. And I think those people unfortunately now have influence over our favorite artists. I think our A-list artists are even looking at rap beef differently now based off how the internet is dictating shit and how they pick a winner. Like,
I'm sorry, Drake even said on Iceman, y'all boys was island hopping. Do I think that Drake thinks Pusha T and Hov were really in the Epstein files doing nasty shit?
Chapter 6: How do fans and the internet influence rap beef dynamics?
No, but they lied on Drake's name. So he's like, well, this is the rules now. So I can say y'all was island hopping, even though I don't think that. So I think Drake is in a mind state right now of, all right, you guys told me the rules before, which even says on Iceman. I didn't know y'all rewrote the rules. You think Drake's petty ass is going to play by the old rules?
We're going to get a whole Epstein freestyle. 9 a.m. on the island. Like I'm cool or all of that. That's why I just think it's going to go to a weird place. It ain't going to that. But I do think. The rumor of Drake in Scary Hours 4, I have no actual information. I'm talking about the- I'm a little nervous. You look scared, nigga. Don't be scared. Nigga, don't be scared, nigga.
You ain't- I need a nightlight tonight? Yeah, you ain't in the version. Don't be scared. I got to check under the bed? I definitely got to check under the bed. Oh, man.
Chapter 7: What are the implications of the leaked sextape involving Diddy and Daphne Joy?
With the internet, with the rumors of Scary Hours 4 and all that shit, I do think Drake sends some bars- But all that shit has led to full records. We saw Nas and Hov sending shots. Eventually it happens. And this is the most direct back and forth we've ever seen with these two.
And like that was the first time we saw direct shots from Kendrick and Drake, even though they had been throwing shots at each other for a decade. That was the first time we saw, oh, all right, this ain't subs. These are direct back and forth shots. This is the first time we've gotten it from Hove and Drake as well. And I'm saying those things can turn into a direct record.
I think even if Drake gives Jay a direct record, I do not think Jay is. I think this was Jay responding to everything and he's done. I think he's cool. I think so, too. I think I think so, too. I don't think Jay wants to. I said I don't think he wants a back and forth with anybody at this point. I think it's a whole different whole different thing right now.
But he's a rapper first, but he's going to rap if necessary or if he feels the need to. But if we being honest, it's probably it's probably going to happen. Thank you. After all that. Please make sure you add that part in the clip. But it's different than what you're saying. It's probably going to happen because it probably has to happen. Drake is obviously the top dog.
Jay is obviously the greatest ever. Sometimes it got to happen.
I'm literally going to do it.
How does it happen with a 50-something year old with three kids who is only doing things... For fun. When it comes to music, Ho's only doing it if he's moved by it. They're both two of the most successful rappers, two of the richest rappers ever. If we want to get in the booth and start really dragging our nuts and talking our shit, then let's do it. That's all.
Now, I'm with it as long as it remains, you know, rap and respectful. I'm not with the corny, just make up anything and say anything bullshit that we witnessed two years ago.
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Chapter 8: What predictions are made for the NBA Finals between the Knicks and Spurs?
I'm not with that. Don't act like O's not above that. He didn't actually leave a condom in a baby seat. You don't know that. You don't know that. You wasn't there fucking him. You don't know that because I know niggas that really get down like that. Fact. I know niggas that fuck shorties and the baby was in the bed sleep. That ain't they baby? Oh, no. I know that. All right.
So you think somebody's against leaving a condom in a baby seat? The baby? I'm not saying Jay put the condom on the baby head. I just think. I ain't saying that. Jay not that type of nigga. But if the baby seat was empty and I just finished clapping cheeks, I might have left the condom there. Like, I mean, like, yeah. I just think Hov is sick at that point in his career.
He's fucking in a car and there's a car seat next to him while he's fucking. No, you got to get it off sometimes. Fuck that. Yeah. But yeah, it probably has to happen. It probably has to. And how are you going to handle all of this, my love?
We circling right back to the JD question.
It ain't their firm friends. Friends never had to decide. Yeah, I'm going to sit back and enjoy it like that. Yo, this nigga over here telling me what's understood don't need to be explained. What side, nigga? What side are you on? It ain't no side to pick because it's not beef. It's not a beef. It's just two niggas going at it. It's not a beef.
All right, hypothetically, if it goes there, you got to pick a side. If it goes there? I picked mine, I was with Biggs. I ain't gonna lie, I might have to ride with my man Drake, man. Over your actual family? All right.
Oh, my God.
I've defended you for so long. Things are misunderstood. Y'all don't understand. I got to ride with my man. I even explained certain things to fans. It's my man. That looks like you don't understand. How would you feel? Hov is big, bro. But I'm just saying in a frilly little fade with my man, I got to go with my man, dog. I got to go with my man. It ain't going to be nothing.
It ain't getting physical. It ain't none of that. But if it's a frilly fade in my man versus big bro. Yo, listen, man. Let me get this camera. Biggs, I'm your little brother now. I'm your little brother now. I'm the captain now. I'm your little brother now. I gotta go with my man. I'm your little brother now. I gotta go with my man. What y'all want me to do? I'm about to call your sister, bro.
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