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Episode 510 | Jamal Jerome Tyrone

23 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: How did the crew celebrate Father's Day and Juneteenth Weekend?

0.031 - 3.662 Desi Perkins

This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.

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39.788 - 63.178 Malcolm (Maul)

Well, now I'm self-conscious of how we start episodes. You should. Thanks. You're welcome. Welcome back. Just chill. Just vibe. I don't know how to do that, man. Yo, what's poppin'? We back. It's not in my caucus DNA to just, like, relax. Gotta relax, man. Gotta relax. You seen us dance? We're very stiff. We don't know how to do that. Well, we are back. That we are. Good to see everybody. Yes.

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63.618 - 86.348 Malcolm (Maul)

Have a very chill, very calm weekend. Happy Father's Day to all of the fathers. Absolutely. Out there. Let's clap for the fathers that are here. The real fathers. Real fathers. Not the ones that just have kids. The real fathers. Yes. Yes. It seemed... It was actually... I was in the city. It was kind of a calm Father's Day. It was a very calm Father's Day. I was like moving around a little bit.

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86.768 - 107.248 Malcolm (Maul)

And I was like, well, it's no traffic. It's no restaurant you can walk right in. Father's Day, you can't do that. Of course. Because I mean, if... If the father has the choice, because a lot of mothers will make Father's Day about themselves. But if a father has a choice, it's not to go to brunch. No. Like, no, I don't want to go pay for overpriced eggs and wait in line. No.

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107.268 - 122.71 Malcolm (Maul)

That's a Mother's Day thing because they want to go out and be celebrated. A father wants to be left alone. So that's why the streets are clear. Or at the crib, a little barbecue, something like that in the house. Something that I'm not going to have to pay for or wait in line for. Yeah. I saw Damaris as being a great, great daughter.

122.85 - 123.711

Yeah, I'm the best.

123.691 - 138.848 Malcolm (Maul)

She was on the grill. She was in the kitchen. Just doing things that women are supposed to be doing. You did the grilling? Yeah. Grilling and chilling? Grill some stuff, cook some stuff. I know you said fathers like being left alone, but my dad always wants to be with his kids on Father's Day. I meant more to what Maul was saying.

138.868 - 146.256 Malcolm (Maul)

Like, left alone as far as don't plan activities that I now have to do. We could be at the house. Like, let's all kick it as a family and just chill.

Chapter 2: What are the reactions to Beyonce's vlog about Jay-Z's hair transformation?

146.236 - 158.749 Kyle Dion

Yeah. So he just, he just wanted to spend time with me. My older sister came over, we laid out on the grass and dug our feet into the earth, grounded, smoked some, smoked some, well, they smoked, smoked some weed. I made dirty martinis, cooked. It was great.

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158.769 - 173.444 Malcolm (Maul)

He really, really loved his father's day. That's dope. Yeah. You're such a great daughter, Damaris. I know. Thank you. That's something I really take pride in. You know, one day a year, it's all about him. Oh, and his birthday. Just one day. One day. One day. Yeah. The man that gave you life.

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174.185 - 176.007 Kyle Dion

Revolves around me every other day.

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176.695 - 198.771 Malcolm (Maul)

giving life mad easy by the way like giving life is not mad easy what are you talking about every day that don't mean giving life no making life is mad easy making life i watched what kia went through on that table that shit did not look easy oh yeah no but we talking about fathers nothing is easy that should take as easy as one two three nah not really though it depends nothing not easy no i'm not mad easy

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201.046 - 206.333 Malcolm (Maul)

Being a father is not easy. Like, being a dad is not easy. But, like, the life part. You see the grays?

Chapter 3: What insights are shared about songs and their changing perceptions?

206.934 - 224.176 Malcolm (Maul)

The life part is easy. You had them before, Mara. Life part is not easy. No, but they started really popping out when Mara was born. I had, like, one or two. Oh, my God. It's mad of them now. Yeah. You old as fuck. I never saw that before. I'm telling you. That's what fatherhood does. No, but the grays really show when you've been outside in the sun, though. You was outside this weekend.

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225.298 - 242.528 Malcolm (Maul)

Because that's, like, your version of a tan. Yeah. True. When I do the just ferment, I don't want any judgments. I don't care. I'm not going to hide it. You going to buy it in orange? Why would you just ferment it though? Nah, you can't do that. I think salt and pepper looks cool. I don't know if ketchup and salt looks cool.

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242.727 - 262.116 Malcolm (Maul)

Like I think the salt and pepper look men can get off and women find it very attractive. I don't know if it's the same way with redheads. We Google redhead. We look a little weird. That's all redhead men with gray hair. And I've noticed every redhead that like looks like me, like Bill Burr. I mean, we all get the grays in like one single patch right here and it looks weird.

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262.817 - 269.207 Malcolm (Maul)

I'm not against just dying the shit. I'm really not. You would, you would just for a minute, you would, you would die. Uh, yeah. Is there other products?

Chapter 4: What does Kyle Dion discuss during his visit to the show?

269.778 - 284.242 Malcolm (Maul)

I mean, it's just for men. The only one. I don't know. I've never, I had to talk to him. I've never, I don't really, I don't really like it either. You know, you could just not have the beard. Cut the beard off? I would. I would look like a pedophile. No, no, no, no, no. Get the gist from it. Yeah, yeah. If it's cut the beard off or diet.

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No, I don't.

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284.743 - 300.039 Malcolm (Maul)

See, this is a. This is for everyone's safety. What is up with, like, this thing where, like, beards have become, like, a necessity? Like, I miss back in the day when people were clean shaven in the face. Yeah, but when you're in your 20s, yeah. No, even when you're in your 30s and 40s. Like, if you have a nice face, like, why do you need a beard?

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300.059 - 309.005 Malcolm (Maul)

I just think it just looks a little weird if you have, like. a full face of hair and then like you shave it all off. It's just a little weird.

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309.025 - 311.892 Kyle Dion

Like if you, I mean, if y'all face car hit, don't hit, like just say that.

311.952 - 319.99 Malcolm (Maul)

But like, no, I have great bone structure. I'm like, I look max pretty well. Like I, I watched what was said. He has great bone structures.

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What is it? I can't say it.

324.183 - 352.263 Malcolm (Maul)

Making PJ's job harder. What's the clavicle? That weirdo? Yeah, like, what he's trying to achieve. I naturally have, like, if you go to my Instagram and look at my younger photos when I don't have a beard, this is chiseled, my friend. This is, yeah. But I like my beard. You got a chin like Jim Carrey, me, myself, and Irene. Hank thought you had a weak chin. Yo, that movie is so funny.

352.624 - 369.398 Malcolm (Maul)

We don't talk about me, myself, and Irene enough. That movie is so fucking funny. Fucking classic, man. That is a classic movie, without a doubt. Yo, man. Yeah, nah, I hope you don't have a chin like that under that hair. You good, man. Nah, I could pull off the no beard, but I like my beard. Yeah, beard's cool.

Chapter 5: What are the implications of names like Jamal and Tyrone in society?

4581.889 - 4588.127 Malcolm (Maul)

Jaquan and Jamal, nothing alike. Jaquan is a pretty black name. If your name wasn't Jamal, I think you would think differently about that.

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4588.343 - 4617.671 Malcolm (Maul)

Jamal it's a very stereotypical Jamal is a stereotypical black name it's like the name like white suburban ladies would like in a movie they would be like okay Jamal I feel like Andre is more stereotypical than Jamal no Jamal and Jamal and Jaquan are like you might as well say Shaniqua Hell no. Anytime a racist person is making a hypothetical, they're going to use Jamal. No way. No way.

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4617.691 - 4629.268 Malcolm (Maul)

I don't think so. He's biased. I'm not. I just don't think it's as stereotypical as y'all think it is. Don't quote me because I don't know the actual history, but in my Irish...

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4629.788 - 4658.378 Malcolm (Maul)

a lot of people have the middle name Tyrone Tyrone is a very that's blacker than Jamal to me Tyrone oh my god look up the Irish connection to the name Tyrone I have a lot of older family members that have the middle name Tyrone it has something to do with Irish culture I don't know where it comes from so please do not quote me I'm not standing but Tyrone is an Irish name somewhere it means land of Owen in Gaelic yes it's a Gaelic word yeah

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4659.32 - 4672.962 Malcolm (Maul)

Like if you go through my family tree, there's Tyrones in my family. That's hilarious. If I was to meet an Irish Tyrone, the conversation we would have would last three hours. When my dad was working, he must've been in Miami. Yeah, he was in Miami.

Chapter 6: How does the discussion shift to the cultural significance of names?

4672.982 - 4682.998 Malcolm (Maul)

He was in Coral Gables at the time. There was, he was working on this boat. And the whole time he was talking about this, this guy Tyrone, he works with, works. I get there.

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4682.978 - 4704.958 Malcolm (Maul)

straight from Ireland that's crazy that's funny straight from Ireland but I mean there was a lot of overlap in the West Indies with Irish 100% the dialects are very similar 100% but yes Tyrone does but being named Tyrone and you're like a full white Irishman is crazy I Google most stereotypical black names. Jamal was the first one that came up. Deshawn.

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4704.978 - 4728.139 Malcolm (Maul)

But his is also from the Quran and how he spells it is like. Yeah. Demetrius, Tyrone, Marquise, Darnell, Malik, and Terrell. Those are the names. Those are the most stereotypical black names. Jamal was number one? Jamal was number one. I keep telling you. Like it's almost become a character of racism. Yeah, it's a racist. How many Jamals do you know? I know a lot of Jamals.

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4728.237 - 4741.544 Malcolm (Maul)

I would put it somewhere in the five category. But that doesn't mean like you can, even if somebody knows none, that doesn't make it a less black name. I don't know any Shaniquas, but that's a stereotypical black name. Do you know Shaniquas? I do not know. I don't think I know one Shaniqua.

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4741.564 - 4742.727 Kyle Dion

I don't know not one Shaniqua.

4742.747 - 4744.791 Malcolm (Maul)

You don't know a Shaniqua? I don't know.

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How do you not know a Shaniqua?

4745.573 - 4750.161 Malcolm (Maul)

I know a Sharkeesha. See, now that's crazy.

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No, it's the video.

Chapter 7: What are the challenges artists face with AI in music?

4795.362 - 4811.719 Malcolm (Maul)

The ones I originally knew. I said Google definitely got Bonquisha up there. But this is my problem with all those viral videos that they deprived us of where are they now? Like don't make Sharkeesha viral and then don't tell me 10 years later what happened to her. Yeah, we need to know where Sharkeesha is. But I need to know what Sharkeesha is doing. What you think Sharkeesha is doing?

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4811.739 - 4814.883 Malcolm (Maul)

Patrick beating the fuck out of people. What is this?

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4815.083 - 4816.104 Kyle Dion

Irish boy names?

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4817.105 - 4826.228 Malcolm (Maul)

Patrick, Connor, Sean. Pete, you Irish? For real? You didn't know? Oh, shit. No, I didn't know that. He put his pops in the chat. He looks just like my dad.

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4827.67 - 4828.891 Kyle Dion

Why Seamus ain't on there?

4829.853 - 4838.224 Malcolm (Maul)

Seamus kind of, that's more of an older. Like, if you get into some of the, like, my grandma's name was Eileen. Like, they don't make Eileens anymore.

4838.404 - 4839.606 Kyle Dion

I had an aunt named Eileen.

4840.067 - 4849.497 Malcolm (Maul)

They don't make Eileens or Barbara. When's the last time you seen Barbara? You don't even know a barber. I went to high school with a barber. No way. You did not go to high school with a barber.

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No fucking way.

Chapter 8: How does the conversation conclude regarding the future of music and AI?

4876.716 - 4883.99 Malcolm (Maul)

That used to be ours. Yeah. Trevor. Trevor. Definitely took Trevor from... There was a lot of Irish names that West Indians took now that I think about it.

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4884.01 - 4889.741 Kyle Dion

They took them or were they... Were the name passed down through all types of... The owners?

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4890.041 - 4896.754 Malcolm (Maul)

Yeah. Oh, I think you have a very misguided version of the history between the Irish and the West Indians. It is...

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4897.223 - 4901.233 Kyle Dion

But y'all ever thought that some of the people that conquered you and some of the names that- Yeah, no, for sure, no.

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4901.314 - 4918.786 Malcolm (Maul)

And indentured servants. And trust me, I'm not the Irish guy that said, hey, we went through it too. You do. But no, there's a way- Rory gonna tell us Irish was slaves every time we- He don't do that. They were. Yes. It's just a fact. But don't, but don't say I'm not the guy. No, no, no. But I'm not one of those people that even still stands on the, yes.

4918.806 - 4939.313 Malcolm (Maul)

When we got to this country too, it was no shirts, no shoes, no Irish. Cool. But then after that decade, we just became white. So, so no, I'm not saying there's any comparison whatsoever, but a fact is a fact. And where the West Indian dialect is so similar to the Irish one is because they were indentured servants and slaves in the West Indies. Like, yeah.

4939.293 - 4965.269 Malcolm (Maul)

barbara burst in recent years around 300 newborn girls were given the name barbara annual 0.01 barbara in her 30s 0.01 of all newborn girls in the united states are named barbara 0.01 that's what i'm saying you don't see barbara's like that what uh what was your grandmother's name Gertie. Oh, I miss old names, man. Gertie. That's such a grandmother name.

4965.289 - 4989.66 Malcolm (Maul)

Now, is Gertie like a nickname or like the full name Gertie? That was a name. Gertie Mae. Oh, they love a Mae. Of course it's Mae. They love a Mae. Yeah, Gertie Mae. And now that I think about it, Ann's were also taken. Yo, Irish and Jamaicans have way too much in common. Because my mother's Kathy Ann. Everything Ann is Jamaican related. 100%. My mother's name is Kathy Ann.

4989.84 - 4993.245 Kyle Dion

Or trailer trash related. Trailer trash whites love Ann.

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