Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. At midnight when the album came out, did you secretly hope your ex of three years would text you after she listened to it? I think her new dude felt a way when like maybe he was just on her laptop. He in the industry, so you know what I'm saying? He probably... Oh, he ain't playing that shit in the car. He an industry dude? He ain't playing your shit.
Say it was like Reasoner J, Stardate Mike's. I'm never listening to them niggas again.
All these niggas. All these niggas who are bigger than me or lower than me. I'm going to talk to your therapist tonight. Yeah, we got to talk to Justin. I don't know if she's really doing her job.
Yeah, they got to change the budget with the therapist. It's not working. No, warrior. West Side Boogie, first of all, congratulations, man. Thank you, man. I have been a fan of yours for years. I appreciate it. I played your music on an old pod that we used to do. You know, when I watch it, it'd be feeling like Rory more support my music more than you. Really? That's probably true.
It'd feel like Rory the fan.
now you know what it is when white boys just like you a little bit it feels like a lot in comparison to brothers cause we supposed to support each other yeah you just like you do that now like yeah I miss you no but you know why because I've been fucking with your music I'm just happy to see it now everybody else catching up thank you for real it's like if I was in a party for a year and then now y'all get there I'm like yeah man it's been lit here yeah exactly and boog is like the cool real hip hop card that white people would be like yo I fuck a west side boogie it is that one that's probably why I go I hope I got you some vagina in the past you did bro I promise you that
You didn't. Damn it. How you feeling, man? Because I know it's been... First returning guest, by the way. Yeah, yeah. I mean, but Boogie, he's not a guest. He's family, man. This is Boogie. Yeah, man, why you call me that? Boogie is family, man. Yeah, don't call him a guest. This is family right here. But back to how I feel, man. I'm happy I got them sophomore jitters out.
You know what I'm saying? Because I can't lie. Like, it wasn't scary at times. You know what I'm saying? Especially Drake announcing the same day as me. I ain't gonna lie. That's something that me and Rory looked at when we was in Mexico. And we was like, damn, Boog. And we said at the same time, it was like, fuck. You were the first person we thought of when we saw you.
The first person we thought about was you. Because we was like, damn, Boog, I'm going to come out tomorrow, too. Drake just announced the surprise project. He's been harassed for years. Man, for years. And I'm like, this is just my luck. So it was crazy. Were you upset, though? No, let me tell you. I was in 40-40 Club with Justice, my manager of Justice in New York. I know that guy. He's cool.
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Chapter 2: How does Westside Boogie feel about his new album release?
I've been just, you know what I'm saying? But what I realized, because when I did hear Kendrick's album,
was like dang it's kind of like the same message talking about like healing as a black man and therapy but then i got over it quick because i realized the message of gun violence is being used by everybody you know what i'm saying it's not like just for one person to talk about it so i should be happy that kendrick is is putting light on this message so this message could get out more to more people you know i'm saying he being one of the biggest artists in the world it just helped the message for real so if i really care about what i'm talking about then i should be happy that kendrick delivering that message did that
journey start before you started the album or in the middle of making it not before that started before that started after my breakup just crying trying to figure out a way to stop crying okay and when was this uh what was that about three years ago okay no i was with her two years ago about two years ago i think um i was in atlanta i was with this girl for like three years it felt like my first healthy relationship because all my prior relationships was like
based off like trauma or like trauma trauma bonding fighting with each other just we can make up so this was the first time i felt like i was in a real relationship so when we broke up i was so lost you know i'm saying and anybody who know me they know my music is based off heartbreak i'm just like oh let me take this heartbreak i love getting my feelings hurt because i can make a fire project off of it um wait wait wait you love getting your feelings i wouldn't say i love it because it don't feel good but yeah i do be like
Every time I just channel it to something else. And that's where my best music comes from. So it'd be like, when I'm not hurt, it was the point when I wasn't hurt, I didn't know how to make music. And so at this time getting in therapy, after I got the heart, after I got my heart broke, I couldn't create because it was like, oh, now I got to hold myself accountable.
I can't use the same cheat code of blaming this girl. And then I was just stuck like, how am I going to rap now? Because like this girl trying to, this lady trying to heal me through therapy. And so, you know, I spent the first year just avoiding like really growing all the way. And I still do it. I don't think healing look cool. You know what I'm saying? I can't even get a lot of hoes.
I keep saying that. It's like hard to get girls when I'm healed all the way. So I'm like fighting that too all the time. You know what I'm saying? That was a funny line. That was a great line. He just stay in his demon so he get some pussy. You feel me? But do you feel like as black men, we have to find a, for therapy.
I feel like all black men in America, especially, I think we all need some type of therapy. I think that too. We've all seen, been through traumatic events, losing friends, family. And then sometimes, you know, we just, we've been taught to be strong, man up. You know what I'm saying? You crying. Like as an artist, you said, you know, you write better when you're hurt.
do you think that's something that we should get away from like feeling like we have to be hurt to create 100 that's why i don't like glorifying it but it was just my truth for a long time and so i'm still trying to you know i'm trying to it's something obviously deep in the psyche of black men my mama never gave me a space to be like emotional because she felt like i had to go out in the world and be tough so you know i grew up and i think the stigma around like
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Chapter 3: What impact does therapy have on Westside Boogie's music?
And the concept of me having different personalities just, like, opened a lot of different doors for me to, like, do more stuff now and give me more freedom now that I've introduced, like, my ignorant side and people can't just box me in as this rapper or just a gangbanger rapper or just however. You know what I'm saying? Now I can be Ratchetbug when I want.
I can be Anthony and I can just do whatever. Yeah. The LA Lakers freestyle. Yeah. One of my favorites. One of my... Mine too. And I appreciate you saying how Anthony got off the most because like... That was probably one of my favorite verses. Yeah, people are always saying like, man, Reggie Boogie went crazy. But I really feel like that first verse was crazy. But yeah, my man.
You know you crazy, right? For you to be able to sit there and write from that type of perspective, that's not... That's like a part of your brain because you have to jump into each one of those personalities.
Mm-hmm.
not crazy in a bad way, but it's like, that's genius. And I appreciate that. And I got it. What I got to say is it's showing me the importance and not, it don't got to necessarily be management or just having somebody in your life that you're let push you where that's like, don't hold you accountable or like,
see greatness in you that see the greatness in you and it's like gonna make you step into that greatness because like I would have went up there probably and just got off thinking it's like my greatest verse ever but it's having a team like no you could do better than this let's try to do something creative and you know what I'm saying and push me always like and it's uncomfortable but it's necessary so how important is it for you to be with
a group and people like LVRN because that's a family. Like every time I see you guys, I'm just like, yo, I just love. And I told her the other time, like, I love what they're doing. I love the fact that they're so invested in each other on a personal level. Because to me, if you're going to work with somebody, especially artists and creatives, you have to understand the person, the artist.
Like you can't just, we need a record. We need a song. You know, a lot of labels, that's how they work. We need a record. We need a song. And it's like, but with LVRN, it's almost like the cool kids at the high school in the cafeteria at the table and everybody is dope and everybody has a talent and everybody plays their part.
How important was it for you at this point in your life as an artist to be surrounded by that type of energy? Man, I didn't even know how necessary it was until I got around them. Because I had management before and I thought I had the greatest manager in the world because this was all I knew until we hit our ceiling.
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Chapter 4: How does Boogie approach relationships after therapy?
Yeah, she never gonna play my shit around him. And he not gonna play my shit no more. That's hate, though. It is hate. Why you hating? What if I like your old dude? Yeah, like, he nice. He talented. Like, if my ex-girl used to date I don't know, Kyrie Irving. You think I'm not going to watch the game? Because Kyrie, like, it's like, he's nice.
And I'm going to draft him on fantasy team if he's available. Like, I don't give a fuck. Yeah, I'm going to ask her how he's feeling. Yeah. I think it depends on how, yeah, if, like, say it was, like, Reasoner J started dating my ex, I'm never listening to them niggas again. Really? Nah, man, you can't say that. Well, one, that'd be kind of weird because you kind of, like, fuck with them.
Yeah, but nice direct peers. Like, you know what I'm saying? Anybody I feel like is, like, I'm in a world with them, I ain't playing them niggas no more. It's like, hell no.
All these niggas, all these niggas who are bigger than me or lower than me. I'm going to talk to your therapist tonight. I don't know if she's really doing her job.
They got to change the budget with the therapist. It's not worth it. You don't even want to listen to the music no more? Nah, man. Maybe I'll do better in that situation. You know what I'm saying? But I'm also glad I'm showing this part in that people understand therapy ain't no just like immediate results. Yeah, no. Oh, I mean, that's the new wave and, you know, because therapy's become trendy.
Everyone thinks like, oh, I'm in therapy, like you fixed. See, we make therapy trendy. Let's make hanging out on college campuses, doing cyphers with the kids. Let's make that trendy. You know what I'm saying? We can make any, in our culture, we can make anything cool. And it can't be cool until it comes to us. At college? Come on, fam. College? Of course.
But I will say they're not, they're going to walk right past the cypher and go to the party with the drum music. Exactly. Yeah, they can't twerk to it. That's why I pull out my red bandana. Is that what works? I don't think you want to scare them. They're going to see that and might go back to their dorms. Boogie was the first blood I met that wore Crocs. I thought that was an interesting fact.
My sense of like... Gangbang is always with house slippers. I don't even know how to travel. For one, I don't even understand what you're supposed to wear when you go places. Justice sending us this list of colors and pastels. I'm like, what the fuck? I'm trying to wear some basketball shorts and wife beater And now my assistant got me wearing this dumbass silk shirt.
It was like... Yeah, I was like... Justice is just trying to change your palette. I get it. He's like, man, we got to get you in fashion. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, absolutely. You should. That's fashion, though. He has you wearing cool pants. My assistant bought me these pants. I don't... I can't... I wouldn't get it. No, that's a good look. That's not... That's you.
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Chapter 5: What insights does Westside Boogie share about his album release and personal experiences?
Still dying on the lie. He just did a whole interview with Sweat. He's still dying on the line. Nah, they turned the comments off. I was looking at that yesterday. That shit was funny because now the comments is going to my Sweat freestyle because it was the last thing that came out before Jesse. That's hilarious. They on your shit talking about Jesse.
Now my whole comment section is, why the fuck y'all turn Jesse on? Jesse a bitch. I'm thinking my shit going viral. I'm like, look at me comments my shit got. I'm up. It's all Jesse. Yo, look at all the shit that happened around your release. Jesse, Drake, Beyonce, Warriors. There's a lot of shit around Boogie's release. It's a conspiracy. Did you watch the Sway shit, though?
Nah, I just went to a couple parts. I kept trying to look for the part where he called out the... Let me get these letters right. LGBT... Q community. The one way to remember that is let's get Biden to quit. Oh, I'm up. I'm finna use that every time now. No, that shit and falling off the bike was so funny. But anyways, fucking.
Yeah, I watched some of it, but I couldn't find that part where he called the community out.
so but he's standing on his truth right he said it's the truth no he's standing on his life yeah i mean we know he lied but i mean he gonna die i can respect it though so if he end up if it if it ended up coming out that he told the truth y'all gonna all like publicly he's not telling it boogie if you've been in situations where niggas have gotten jumped before i'm sure
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Chapter 6: How does Westside Boogie reflect on his relationships and parenting?
That's the story. You think if they had a Subway sandwich, that Subway sandwich is making it home with that gentleman? Nah, facts. One of the homies is going to pick it up. Like, yo, fam, ain't we taking your sandwich? Nah, he hilarious. That's it. We know Jussie is lying about that whole thing. But, you know, he want to die on a lie. It is what it is. I don't know.
I don't pay attention to that shit. Shout out Jussie, man. What show is he from? Empire. Empire, yeah. Where's your love of life now? Because after this album, I can tell you it sounds like it's in fucking shambles. It's not... I think I'm more... What I've been trying to do... I've been thinking because I'm being honest with girls that if I still move like a fuck nigga that it...
exempts me from all like blame and i'm trying to realize even if i be honest to these girls and i don't and then i tell them i'm not ready for a relationship but i see that they still on relationship time and i still move forward with them i'm kind of still wrong in a sense you know it took me a while to get over that yeah so i'm being honest like what's the problem well you're also being an asshole yeah so yeah so i'm dealing with like i've been like going out because my album came out and i've been inviting all the girls i talked to and it's just like i realize this is messed up because like
you know they just all feel in a way they can all tell but i'm like man i told all y'all the truth but as far as being a dad how do you feel like that is affecting your career in a positive way oh the patience part just because like when stuff not going my way um i don't know how i could correlate it from the two but i'm just more patient in life because of my kid um so there's that
um when i'm like feeling low like even before i go perform i always like just picture my kid right before i go on stage for some reason or i like a tap his face on my phone or some shit like that and i just see all it's like a cheat code for niggas if you got a kid you could always always like a source of strength every time you're feeling down or low it's like i got this whole life i'm responsible for who i gotta be a light for so that's how rory is with basely
That is true. That's fine. Whenever we got a pod and he's feeling down, he just FaceTimes Bazley. I haven't seen her in months, man. He jumps in the game. Hey, guys, this is Bazley. I feel like I have to see father. Huh?
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Chapter 7: What challenges does Westside Boogie discuss regarding his career and industry expectations?
Who's Bazley? My dog. Oh, okay. That's what's up, man. Shout out to Bazley. Yeah. Speaking of parenting.
um and i know we're jumping all over the place i love that uh with the killer mode video at the end did you share that note with your mother before the video came out or did she watch it in real time the crazy part i did a colors interview before that and i never had spoke about nothing outside of my therapist how i was angry with my mom like for the past since i've been a grown-up my mama calls me to tell me she loved me like baby i love and it pisses me off like it irritates me it's like okay you're doing too much you know what i'm saying
And I couldn't figure out why I was so angry until my therapist, we talked about me not having that space to be emotional. And I was like, now, when she tried to do it now, it's just like, it's too late. So I said that on colors. And my mama called me the next day, like, being passive. Like, huh, what you doing? Yeah, I saw your interview. And then, you know what I'm saying?
So that part, her not being offended, we had to get through that. And then she finally came to a space like, I get it. And you know what I'm saying? And she was just mad at that. I didn't talk to her about it first, which is understandable. So when she saw that letter, she wasn't tripping because I already went on a whole interview about how she did me scandalous. Yeah.
I tried to talk shit about my parents behind the paywall on Patreon. Didn't. And then I found out they paid it. Caught your ass. They paid for the paywall. Caught your ass. Yeah. They paid the $10.
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Chapter 8: What are Westside Boogie's thoughts on music reviews and their impact?
Yeah. So my daddy too, I'd be going, he sent me like a Facebook message like once a year. He left my life when I was 12. And then he just sent you a Facebook message? No, I'm going to tell you fast forward. I got a brother on my daddy's side who older than me. I hadn't seen him since I was 12 either. And then when I was like,
When I was 18, I was walking with my best friend who a Crip was walking in Long Beach, like just walking around being 17 was walking around being ghetto, you know, just walking from the park. I seen my brother and I'm like, damn, I seen you in forever. He grew up to be a Crip and I'm with some Crips he don't get along with at the time. So I'm like, everybody cool. He like, I miss you.
Give me your number. I'm gonna come see you later. I go to my baby mama house at the time before my kid was born. I had already ran away from home and was living with her. So me and all the homies in the front yard,
my brother i gave my brother the address but then i thought about it like it's probably not smart if my brother come over here because i don't want them to get into it i had already gave him the address at this time um so let me make sure i don't dry snitch or anything so either way go that night my house my baby mama house got shut up um my brother didn't do it i'm not saying he did it but wait wait wait wait wait wait we can't we can't do that i'm just saying he's a such i ain't saying he did it but he's a such i'm just saying my baby mama house got shut up
my best friend got shot in the neck I only bring this story up to talk about how after that my daddy reached out for me for the first time since I was 12 I was like why you trying to set your brother up and that shit piss me off. Because I was just like, what? That's only a black family story. No other culture could tell that story. That's a black problem.
You see the black problems we got, Rory? Y'all don't do shit like that. We're fisticuffs more than guns. You know how we said logic should be the face of 23andMe? I think now maybe Boogie could for finding your sibling. That's a crazy ass story. Yeah, so then my best friend got shot in the neck. It was our first time doing lean. So he didn't panic.
And I feel like that's what saved his life because he was just sitting there like chilling. Like, damn, I'm shocked. No, I think the bullet in his neck caused him to chill. I'm just taking it. He wasn't crying, though. He was just like... Like, I done seen people get shot. I got shot and I was screaming like a little bitch. In the neck? No, I got shot in the foot, so. Yeah, the neck is different.
It is different. So maybe he was like, I ain't moving. Yeah, you don't want to. It could be that. You can't move. So. Yo, why you trying to set your brother up? Your brother definitely shot that fucking, he shot that house up and said, yeah, that little nigga tried to set me up. And that shit had me hot because I'm like, I had just walked in the house like five seconds before.
So it's like, damn, niggas was trying to really smoke me. Like, I know it's nighttime, so I know you wasn't aiming at my homie who liked the app. So then my daddy, and I didn't reply to my daddy. So then like five years later, I got a Snickers commercial. I go to his page. He like, I don't listen to my kid music, but I like this. And posted the Snickers commercial with Elton John.
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