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New Rory & MAL

Episode 95 | Azealia Banks Confesses to Mal

23 Aug 2022

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

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This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. Hey, it's Nora Jones, and my podcast, Playing Along, is back with more of my favorite musicians. Check out my newest episode with Josh Groban. You related to the Phantom at that point. Yeah, I was definitely the Phantom in that. That's so funny. Share each day with me Each night, each morning

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Listen to Nora Jones' Playing Along on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what y'all say. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor IV. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media.

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I'm an alcoholic, and without this probe, I'm gonna die.

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You can't see none of that on the camera, right?

Chapter 2: What did Mal's engagement reveal?

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But their sister, who I love dearly, is married to a cop. And his IG page is private. I don't follow him, but I can see his bio. And it does say Blue Lives Matter. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. What are those conversations in that house like? Listen, I stay far from it, but it was fun to just be with the whites. Well, I'm glad you went down there and lost some money in Atlantic City over the weekend.

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But yeah, so Sunday was quiet. Stayed home most of the day. Didn't really do much. I tried to catch up on some shows and some documentaries and shit like that. That was a big fail. Sundays are like the days where everybody wants to call you and talk. Am I the only one that feels like that? Like, I spend a lot of time talking on the phone on Sundays. It's like... Oh, you answer.

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Well, for certain people, yeah. Like, you know, when it's family and it's, like, close friends, like, you know what I mean? I gotta answer. But then you look up sometimes and be like, damn, we was on this phone for two and a half hours just now, like, talking about everything. But... Listen, I just want to show you how white it was. Does anyone in this photo look like they care for Kamala? Wow.

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That's a white group. Oh, no, absolutely not. That's a white jersey group right there. Oh, yeah, we got to insert this, Eden. No, we can't. We can't put that picture in? Why not? First of all, it's a great photo. Are you in it? Yes. Can I blur everybody else's face? It's a great photo, but you can definitely smell the Blue Lives Matter in the picture.

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There's definitely some conservative things going on in this photo. Absolutely. That definitely looks like an Atlanta City crew, though. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Those shirts, those colors. Yeah, this definitely looks like a group. Those colors don't run in. Everyone in this photo is proud to be an American. Those colors don't fade at all, Rory.

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If there's one thing in this photo, it's that we support the fucking troops. I'll tell you that much. Bring them home. First round of shots went to the POWs. Thank you. How many times did he yell, bring them home that weekend? Bring them home. Holy shit, man. We definitely pre-gamed to, we're not gonna take it. Yo, white bachelor parties have to be the greatest thing in the world, bro.

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And you have to give, like you have to give into it. I had to go all the way with it. No, you have to. Once you're in, you have to go. You can't be like trying to be too cool and I'm not doing this. You have to fist pump. You have to jump up and down. American beer only. Absolutely. Absolutely. Bud Lights. Absolutely have to have an American Pilsner. Pilsner. Pilsner. Look, this is nasty.

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Puff is laid out like an old R&B album. Yeah, that's how Michael Jackson was laid out on the bad cover. He's laying in the piss. Puff is laying in the piss of Hollywood Boulevard to get his star in a white suit. I mean, what did you expect him to do? I don't know. In 2008? Come on. You know, that's when Puff was really, really like he's still party Puff.

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He's laid out like an R&B singer and has the nerve to ask who killed R&B. I think you laying on Hollywood Boulevard in a white suit maybe killed it. And R&B is not killed.

Chapter 3: What is the significance of Azealia Banks' tweet?

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R&B is not dead. R&B is alive and well. I saw a lot of R&B artists chiming in online about Puff's statements in regards to R&B being dead. What were his exact tweets? Because of course I saw the whole back and forth of Puff saying R&B is dead. But did he just tweet that out? R&B is dead? He tweeted out who killed R&B. Nobody. It's still alive. You know what's really funny about that, though?

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I love the Dirty Money album. I think it's one of the more underrated albums. It's incredible. Ahead of its time. One could say that that type of sound killed R&B. I don't think R&B is dead. R&B is not dead. It's not even close. But one could suggest, especially an R&B purist, that the Dirty Money album would be the steps to kill R&B. Mm-hmm.

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puff can't actually sing it's a lot of auto-tune it's a lot of fucking electric synths that that just sound computerized like one could say that yeah dirty money did it um i i don't like to say and i think that album's a classic yeah no it's a that's a great i fucking love that album i think that the sound of r&b has changed and progressed over the years i think that it's um the r&b that maybe we grew up on or that puff grew up on is

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Today, it's a little different. The content is different. The energy behind it is different. But R&B is not dead. You have great... Over the last few years, some of the best albums of the year have been R&B albums. Yesterday, Gideon sold out Radio City two nights in a row singing traditional R&B. Yeah. R&B is not dead. So I'm not really quite sure where that came from.

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And I think Puff is just trolling. Well, Puff is... We know Puff knows how to... He knows how to stay relevant. He knows how to... This is all built around the fact that he's out promoting his single right now. He's traveling the world. Which one could say is not an R&B record? It's not the conventional R&B. It could be dance, pop, and it's under R&B and soul. Right.

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Yeah, so I don't... I'm sorry, Love. His name is Love. Yeah, so nobody... R&B isn't dead. And I thought that that was a little harsh to say that because, again, we have great R&B talent out here. Her and Jasmine Sullivan put out an amazing album a couple years ago. Gideon. Brent Fires. Okay, Lonnie.

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Lucky Day.

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That's why I'm not even like really want to entertain this too much, but I do want to see what Puff's angle is because I feel like Puff being who he is with this love album, whenever the fuck it does come out, Puff's not one of the old heads that just sticks with the old heads. He stays with the kids, which is why he's been relevant his entire fucking career. Yeah.

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He's about to grab a bunch of young R&B artists for this album, I'm sure. So to say R&B is dead and then go get the R&B artists that are currently out is a fucking insane rollout. Not only that, I think that... The whole who killed R&B thing for Puff, I think this is just a way to create the conversation. He's been doing a couple IG live streams with R&B artists.

Chapter 4: What insights do the hosts share about Meek Mill's career trajectory?

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So he's right. There is some shit in these things. He got a lot of people responding to these, which Meek does every time he goes on these rants. Well, he had some revelations off the Strooms, the microdose of Strooms. Oh, yeah. This was like one of the ones that caught my eye. I was like, okay. Again, I encourage people to microdose Strooms. I think it is great and you will feel happy.

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You don't realize anything.

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like go take a whole bunch of shrooms then you might realize some shit go on a sound go inside this painting like I did on Christmas these are the microdose tweets these are the microdose tweets he says if you're a corporate person that work in the music business and ever predicted Meek is over I want to place a 10 million dollar bet with you in contract label owners A&R now I don't know why an A&R would have 10 million dollars but I was gonna say the same thing I was like

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Bro, A&Rs have some bread. A&Rs, CEOs, COOs, artists. I'm just finding out y'all was talking like that. Y'all said I was over at least five times. I'm crying at least. Here's what I think the problem is with me, because I believe that he is hearing a lot of things that people were saying about his career. His last album wasn't what people expected. It didn't do what he probably expected.

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It didn't do what people that worked on it probably expected. Me personally, and this is me from outside, I think Meek is still chasing his intro to his first album. He's still chasing that success of that song. I think that that's the gift and curse of having a song as big as that song, having a song that's as revered as that song is. You try to match that song every time you step in the booth.

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And I think that's a problem. I think that's what Meek is going wrong at. I think he's, that record is so big. It's like, okay, where do I go from here? I think he's been trying to chase the sound of it rather than the success of it. No, no, no. I don't even think the sound of it. I think because now the last project Meek put out, I think he's chasing little Dirk's.

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That's what I'm saying.

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I think with the auto tune and he's used some before, but I think he's used he used more of it on the last album. I think it sounded too much like Dirk. little baby vibes. It just was a little too much in that. And Meek is something totally different from that. The Meek that we love and the Meek that we listen to was something different from that.

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And I know sometimes you fall in these things where you're chasing the current sound or whatever's hot, whatever people seem to be wanting and listening to. But... When you're an artist like Meek, you have to stay in the Meek lane. You cannot do what the new cats are doing. And I think that's the problem.

Chapter 5: How does the discussion shift to the concept of 'last days'?

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there's definitely been moments in Meek's career I didn't think too deeply into it but I was like oh yeah but I do give I have to give Meek credit he's had plenty of moments where someone could say yo it's over for Meek and it's clearly not over he's still here Still successful. Yeah, when you say over, he can still put out music.

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He may not have the success that he had on the first album, Championships, but people may feel like, yo, that might be over because now you don't even sound like what we love anymore. Or what we fell in love with. I'm saying more so just some of his, obviously with the Drake thing and just certain, Nicki thing, just so much stuff in Meek's career, it's looked like his mistakes really may cost him

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the success that he has. And it may have declined it a tiny bit, but I have to give Meek credit. He's still... People still give a fuck. We are all going to stop when Meek puts a project out. Even though I did not like the last album, I'm stopping when Meek Mill is going to put music out. Because you want to see what he's doing.

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You want to hear what he's doing.

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And to me, that...

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needs to be saluted like you've been through a lot of shit the biggest artist in the world some could say fucking demolished you in a rap battle and you were supposed to be the rapper and meek is still here and i would say it's probably as relevant as he was at the time when it looked like it was over for him me so on my i have to give him credit meek put on tom brady's championship rings was that those are tom's ring where or what are those robert crafts rings

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You've put on one of your NBA friends' championship rings before. Don't do that. I've never done that. You've looked at it, though. If my friend wins a world championship, I'm not going to look at the ring? What are we talking about? I've never put it on my hand and took a picture of it. What are you talking about? Now you're lying on me. Look how you just told me to lie.

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I've never done that before in my life. How dare you? No, I just looked at it.

Chapter 6: What are the hosts' humorous takes on what they would do in their last 24 hours?

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I never put it on my hand. Never. Who was that from the Bulls that's selling their championship rings? Oh, Horace Grant. Horace Grant, 100 grand apiece. For 100 grand apiece, he's selling his championship rings. If I'm buying that for 100 grand, I'm putting it on my finger and I'm taking a picture of it. If you're buying it, it's yours now. You can do whatever you want with it.

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Okay, so what was the point of me putting that on? What are you trying to say? Because the name of the album was Championships. So he gave us that whole... You know what I mean? Like he put on the championship rings. He was hanging out with Robert Kraft. You know, so it was like, okay, he's a champion. Gave us championships. Good album. I'm just telling you, good album.

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No, I'm just laughing at your rendition of the rollout. Like, okay, he's a champion. That's what he was trying to sell us on the championship thing. Like, you know what I mean? I got a picture with the five, six Brady rings. I could just picture the marketing team at Atlantic in a meeting. All right. It's called championships. What do we do? Call Robert. Let's put him with some champions.

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Call Robert. Let's put the rings on him. You know Julian came up with that marketing plan. That's Thanos because now you got all the rings on your head. He had the Thanos hand now. Julian definitely posted that too. I don't think Meek posted it. I think Julian posted that from Meek's account. Do we owe Lil Wayne an apology?

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Chapter 7: What reflections do they have on living life to the fullest?

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For what? I didn't know that me put all the Patriots rings on. Yeah. We've given Wayne a lot of shit for being probably the most bandwagon sports fan on planet fucking earth. Yeah. Eagles Patriots. I wouldn't say it would be a rivalry to some degree, but they have history. Yeah. You can't throw on the Patriots rings. All five of them. He had a fistful of rings.

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But I don't think that's as bad as you do of me just posting. It's a Super Bowl ring. If I came across a Super Bowl ring, I posted drama's Grammy. Like, if I came across a Super Bowl ring that my mans won, I would post it. That's cool. No, it's nothing. Again, there's nothing wrong with posting the ring. When you put them on and then you make the fist. Yeah.

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And then your album, what's the, and then your album, it's like, okay, I get it. You tied it all in. You made it make sense. Great album. We love that. We love championship album. So now it's like, what are we going to do for the next album? Because we know what happened to the last album. We didn't, wasn't really, it was a couple of joints in a year. Wasn't really feeling it like that.

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So now this album, this project, I don't know how many you say, mixtapes coming. I don't know when an actual album is coming. But what does Meek do now to rebrand or to pivot into another direction? I don't know what he... Because he did the championship thing already. It appears that his rollout now is the I'm independent thing. That's what it appears to be.

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And it appears to be... Is he independent? The whole industry has been against me. And y'all counted me out. I'm still here. Clearly, Meek is still... But is he independent? I don't know. I don't know his business. But from what I understand, he is... Think Atlantic, that was his last album, no? And he got out of the contract? Because he's saying he's independent now. Okay.

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So I think his next, that's the new direction of what the narrative will be. It won't be the championship Thanos rings, but yeah, he's going to do the independent shit. And I'm sure he's going to sit with Robert Kraft and be like, you're independent too, bro. Yo, sitting with Robert Kraft and telling him, yeah, you're independent too. You own all the royalties of that Kraft Mac over there.

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Oh my God. Every box. Robert Kraft is not independent. Even the dinosaur mac and cheese. You got all the masters of that. So I think that, yeah, his plan now is to do the independent rollout. I personally, not that Meek ever asked me, I wouldn't put out fucking this 20 mixtapes in a before the year is up thing. Yeah, I don't think that's it. I understand you're sitting on music.

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And I believe he was supposed to put something out This past week, right? And I think he posted something about that. I think I read he posted something like, we still on track for something, but he was either supposed to put out a song. The song, I know he's been playing on his IG with the Big Pun sample.

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