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Nick Grant Wants All The Smoke

03 Jul 2025

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

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This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. Hey, it's Nora Jones, and my podcast, Playing Along, is back with more of my favorite musicians. Check out my newest episode with Josh Groban. You related to the Phantom at that point.

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Yeah, I was definitely the Phantom in that.

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Yes.

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Which, by the way, wasn't Taylor Swift who said that for the first time. I actually, I thought it was. I got that wrong.

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Chapter 2: What does Nick Grant say about his latest album?

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I love the reception, the response to it. What they saying? They love it. Yeah? Yeah, they love it. Two classics, two classics back to back. Well, Sunday Dinner, you know how I feel about that album. Yeah. That album, out of all the projects that you released, to me, I think that was the one that kind of solidified, for me, your place amongst the elite rappers and MCs that we have.

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Man, appreciate that. But this album, I took it personal. We spoke about it when you was writing and laying it down, and you said you wanted to experiment with this one a little bit. Yeah, this wasn't even me, like... Like, I was pulling back on a lot of these records. It wasn't even me, like, going... Like Sunday dinner was like stressful. That shit was like counting rice.

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That shit is like, you got to have conversations, different, different people's perspective on like situations that I saw. And it's just like, what did you feel about when this happened? Like having conversations with my mom, my mom was like, I mean, my mom is like my sister. My mom didn't raise me. So my grandma raised me. So my mom would all, my mom always calls me.

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She leaves these voicemails and stuff and just say different stuff. So it's like, she's opening the album and all this shit. I'm like, yo, this is heavy. This is something I got to like do a deep dive in and like, you know, just talk about, but I got to do it the right way. So it was me talking to my siblings, me talking to my mom, me talking to uncles, aunts.

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So yeah, but that was like, I don't know if you ever seen this shit where Kobe was like, man, I had to lock in. Everything had to be basketball for me to like win the ring. And I think that's what that album was for me. Like just locking all the way in, getting it together. And it was like, Man, that shit played a little bit on my mental health.

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Because it was a lot of shit that I didn't, like, overcome. And lock in, like, fuck the rest of my family's feelings. This is my perspective of what happened. I mean, I got to get their approval. Because I got to speak about certain shit. Fuck you when it's time to write it down. You know what I'm saying? But I got to get your approval. I don't want to do that.

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Because it's like, certain things they might not want the world to know. Yeah, for sure. As an MC, how... That has to kind of like, you know, get in the way of the creative process a little bit when you got to take accountability and, you know, the storytelling. When you get into your storytelling bag, how's my family going to feel?

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Has there ever been a moment where you've laid something down in the booth and then, you know, whether it be mom or whoever heard it and was like, nah, you can't say that. And then you got to go back and kind of like. Yo, my mom's a nigga, bro. She like real black country lady from the south, deep south. Yeah, yeah. The fuck is you doing, nigga? What you... Yeah. Y'all just out here naked, nigga.

Chapter 3: How does Nick Grant approach storytelling in his music?

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Right, right, right. You know what I'm saying? He was like, I don't do none of that and I'm still, you know, selling this and ticket sales here for the live show. Like, he was like, so don't let them tell you you got to do that because no, you don't. Do you remember what I said to Vince, though? No. Everybody not you. Yeah, not for sure. Everybody's not Vince.

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But Vince, he built his self to that. But he's always been kind of like, I don't really fuck with all of that. That's always been Vince's demeanor and his thing from day one was like, I'm not really into all that extra shit. Yeah. And it works for him. It's like, yo, you know, this is who I am. Either you love Ramona Park, broke my heart, or you don't. You know what I'm saying?

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Like, it is what it is. Either way, it's still available, still out. And I think it's dope. So I think there is a space of politicking, relationship building, things like that. Those are important, but those should never outweigh somebody's decision to hear a project and be like, damn, that's fire. Just because I don't know this artist personally. Right.

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Oh, I mean, you know I've never been on that. I'm the opposite of that. I just don't think the rest of media, the rest of the world really works that way, to be quite honest. I do not like you and I agree with you all the time and still think your shit is like crazy.

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For sure.

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You know what I mean? For sure. That's why when people are like, oh, you hate, and I laugh, I'm like, bro, I don't even know these dudes personally, so I can't hate anybody personally. When we was going through the whole... Me and Nick was laughing about the whole shit last year, Rory, you know, with the whole Drake Kendrick shit.

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Like Nick was one of the guys that would call me every day like, yo, these niggas think you the most hating ass nigga. And they don't really know. Like deep down inside, you don't give a fuck about none of these niggas. And it's real. It's like, yo, I love the music. I don't know this artist personally. Yeah. So it's never personal for me. It's like, oh, I just I didn't like that.

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Or I do like this. But it has nothing to do with the fact of, yo, I know that person, person, which is why I don't understand these lists. It's like, yo, do you like the album or not? But we have the freedom that our opinions on this podcast are ours. And I'll speak not for all podcasters, but podcasting, that's kind of been the allure of the entire thing.

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It felt like, okay, finally we getting some real takes from people that don't really have an agenda or have anybody to, you know, have to say something for.

Chapter 4: What challenges does Nick face in the music industry?

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Yeah. It's about to go another way. Yeah. Win, lose, or draw. You know what I'm saying? Was that a situation where it would have probably behooved you to rock with them on an industry side or career-wise? I mean, the people that really know me, it's people that would, they don't really know me. The people that don't really know me said like, Nah, man, it's not that deep. It's not that bad. Yeah.

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And I'm like, you're not really for me because I'm not that kind of guy. Yeah. If you say something about this and I've opened my doors to you, like, I opened the door to my family. You know what I'm saying? Everybody don't know my mom. Everybody ain't met my mom. My sisters, my brothers. You know what I'm saying? My cousins. You met everybody.

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You're the only person that's really met everybody.

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Yeah.

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When that happened, I was just like, nah, I'm cool. No matter how much money's on the table, I don't give a fuck about how much money I can make. Nigga, I'm out of here. I don't give a fuck. What is it like for a young Nick Grant or artist to be on tour with a Nas and Lauryn Hill? What are those conversations with Nas? The MC conversation or just life.

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What are some of those conversations you had with Nas while on the road with him? Man, I think I told this story with y'all last time when Shaka was like, yeah, Nas is going to pull up. And Nas actually pulled up with the Hennessy. And we just talked about bullshit all day long. Who was dope? Who was whack? Who you said was whack, though? Because I know you.

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Because sometimes I'll be talking to Nick. I'm like, yo, I like this little nigga. Nick be like, nah, he whack. I be like, dude.

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so who are you telling Nas like nah he was telling me he was telling me who wack so I can't really yeah you know what I'm saying I was just listening because I didn't really know him like that so I'm like I don't want to say too much to throw him off yeah but when he was talking to me it was like everybody he thought was was wack did he say somebody was wack that you thought was nice because that's the thing like when one of your favorite MCs thinks somebody is wack and you think they nice it's like damn like alright

Chapter 5: What unique insights does Nick Grant share about Jay-Z's career timeline?

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He took every rapper, every MC ever, and he has it from the year that they were born, the year they dropped their first, I think, single or album. That's crazy. It literally is like, you can see the 10 years, like from when it took off. Like you can see it like, yo, this is when this out, then this single drop, that's when his career took off.

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And it's like, I'm looking at it and the one person who has probably the most unique timeline is Jay. Because Jay was introduced with Kane. In 88. Wow. So he has it like, Jay was really supposed to take off you know, sooner than he took off. If you look at it, the 10-year thing, it's like... I'm glad you said that. Jay lived... So, Jay literally, his 10,000 hours... Yeah.

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Like, is happening, like, in real time. Like, he's supposed to have been took off. Yeah. So, it was so interesting seeing that. I'm like, damn, but... So, it's a real thing when you say 10 years. Like, when you say 10 years, 10 years. And that's, you know, all creatives need to understand that. Like...

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Chapter 6: How does Nick Grant perceive the importance of time and effort in creativity?

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you got to put that time in. You got to put the energy in because the greats, just because when you saw them take off, don't mean that they ain't been doing this for 10, 12 years. Like, you know what I'm saying? They been doing this shit. And even before that, before we even knew them. Before that, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, with you, Nick,

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I remember hearing you, you know, years ago and then seeing you on all the radio stations, whether it was in Atlanta with Saha and Jeezy. That's my brother. You know what I'm saying? Or whether it was with Sway. Like, you've always been, anytime I would see you online, I would say, all right, let me hear what Nick doing. And I would click it. And you can hear the progression.

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You can hear the bars getting better. You can hear the flow changing. You can hear the content changing. Where you are now, Sunday dinner, to me, bonafide classic.

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Man, appreciate that.

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I think if anybody found you during Sunday dinner, if that was anybody's first time hearing Nick Grant, it would be hard for them not to love you as an MC and as a rapper, because that's some of the best rapping and MCing.

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I think that, especially in these times, it's hard to really find that, where it's like, this ain't no machine, this ain't no dress it up and make it sound good so it goes everywhere. No, this is skill set. These are bars. These are flows. This is like, this is real, a real hip hop consumer's dream.

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It's like going to the record store and going through the vinyls and finding something like, oh yes, this is what the type of shit I've been looking for. Nah, for sure. Now, what I took it personal. Appreciate that too. You, again, you said earlier, you experimented a little bit differently with this one.

Chapter 7: What is the significance of the game 'Bars or Yelp' in the podcast?

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You wanted to change the sounds a little bit. Are you happy with where it landed? As a final product. Absolutely. Absolutely. I think it's a good continuation of Sunday Dinner. But I didn't want to give the people such a heavy album again. I wanted to give them something like, let's dance a little bit this time. Because, man, I know. Yeah. I done told y'all. Motherfucking mama on drugs.

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I done gave you my baby mom having a kid. I done gave you so much. I gave you so much heavy shit. But it's real. It's definitely real shit. And it's some real shit on here too, for sure. But it's like, let's dance a little bit. We'll get back to this for sure. But to continuously do that. At least for me, it'll put you in a dark place. You know what I'm saying?

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You know, I'm always happy.

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I'm like, hey, what up? You know, I'm one of them niggas. I don't like being down. I don't like being... If you want to be great at telling your story... You got to be in tune with it. You got to always be in tune with it. You got to stay sharp. You got to have those conversations. You got to talk to different people.

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My family is older, so I go home and just listen to a lot of those conversations. I just fly home from L.A. That's a long way just to hear conversations, just to hear certain people talk for that album. And it's like... this is why people love it. Cause it's like, it's another level of like being in tune, but it's like, man, this shit is like, it's some good moments too.

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Like my family's like, my mom is the second youngest of 15 kids.

Chapter 8: How does Nick Grant view competition in rap, specifically regarding JID?

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So, and all of her siblings are still alive. My mom, my mom, my mom's 65. So her oldest, her oldest sister's like 90. You know what I'm saying? Record everything. That's what I've been doing with my family. All my audio record message on this shit is I leave this shit with my family talking. Yeah. Just, just to keep all that. For sure. That's fine.

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I got like, I got like footage and shit.

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Not even to like put out on an album. Yeah, no, for sure. Just to have it. To pass down to your son. 100%. This is. Man, that's a great idea. Oh no, I do that with everybody now. So everyone's getting old. Yeah, I'm going down there. I'm just listening to conversations and doing all that stuff. I'm like, so when I, when I approached this album, I'm like, that was a lot of fucking work, bro.

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I don't know if I got that shit in me right now. I got it in me. I can do it. Cause you know, I'm attentive and I'm listening and I'm, I know how to like translate the shit into music, but I want to do that shit again right now. Like I give you like this surface level, you know, some good shit and it still be a great album. I can still do that too. And it's, you know, great continuation of it.

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And I'll get back to the storytelling in depth, but you gotta, you gotta have that. You can't have that shit. You gotta reset. Yeah. You got that shit in waves. You can't just do that. Every album. Yeah, for sure. So we, we know, we know the album. Uh, if you don't, if you didn't download it and stream it yet, do yourself a favor. I took it personal available now. Um, so we got the albums.

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We got the great stories with Nas and, and, and 3000, uh, Jay-Z too, nigga. Jay-Z. Yeah, Jay fuck with me. Hell yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Always show me love. Every time I see him, show a nigga love, man. I fuck with him. I mean, it's the skill set. I fuck with him. Those guys, Nas, Jay, 3000, they recognize when they see the skill set that they have. They know when they see it.

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Jay cool though. Jay play me cool. He like, yeah, all right, nigga. You special. yeah yeah but that's that's Jay and everybody like he's just he's the coolest nigga in the room at all times I gave him the first five year anniversary print of written testimony vinyl the first press and he said I've never gotten a gift I've never gotten a gift. I said, I mean, B ain't never bought you nothing.

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I think he like, I was bringing it for somebody to sign or something. And I was like, nah, that's the first press of the five year. Like it's a different color of the vinyl. And I was like, this is the first presence. I never got a gift. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, cut it out. That nigga lying. Yeah, that nigga lying.

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Yeah, that nigga lying. Oh, no, I laughed.

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