Chapter 1: What are Elle Duncan's musical influences growing up in Atlanta?
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Chapter 2: How did Elle Duncan transition from music to sports broadcasting?
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Maybe a little bit. Maybe a little bit.
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Chapter 3: What are Elle's experiences with notable celebrities like Kanye West and DMX?
Not really. But this is why we have this show so we can bring in some of our friends that do know ball and they can help us out. Today we are joined by someone who is very knowledgeable, more knowledgeable than you and I both. Combined, yes. Combined. Even with Google. Right. Even with our smartphones in our hands, she knows more about ball than we do.
ESPN host, anchor, women's college basketball coach. sideline reporter, analyst. I mean, if it's women's basketball, she's there. Welcome Elle Duncan. Elle, thank you for joining us.
What's up, y'all?
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Chapter 4: How important is Coach Dawn Staley's culture in women's college basketball?
You can't hit a clap. By the way, you guys are doing it wrong if you're still Googling. Just pull up ChatGPT. Yeah. Yeah. We could end this entire series just with ChatGPT. We could pull up ChatGPT. ChatGPT will tell us things we don't want to know about basketball. But Elle, how are you doing? I'm doing good, man. I'm a little bit tired. We had the draft this week and I'm like in my 40s now.
So I need like three or four days to recover from one long night. Is draft week like hell week for you? Not really, because I was coming off like it's a quick turnaround.
Chapter 5: What impact does NIL have on women's college basketball players?
I do college women's basketball. So we were at the final four. And then, you know, five days later, we're at the WNBA draft because I also covered the WNBA. So it's just like a it's like a really long two months. But then I get a bit of a break before the actual season starts.
I saw during the Final Four and everything, well, the lead up to the Final Four in women's college basketball, I saw that you had South Carolina winning it all. You said that they had to be dethroned. I didn't know why. I mean, I get it. I understand what Coach Staley has been able to do in South Carolina is amazing. But Coach Auriemma, I mean, UConn is just like, how do you go against that?
Well, here's the thing, okay, Mal, is that I've filled out my bracket and then UConn just decided to start playing like UConn in the tournament and I couldn't go back from there. The reason I'm sort of like in the same way with football. It's like you always choose the Chiefs until someone beats them. Now the Eagles beat them.
Chapter 6: How does Elle view the current state of the WNBA and its stars?
So now we won't just assume that the Chiefs are going to win again. But Dawn literally won a championship after losing 70 percent of her offense. She lost all of her starters and reloaded and won a championship and went undefeated in the process.
So, you know, I gave them the benefit of the doubt, but there was not a single team on this planet, maybe not even the Lakers, that were going to beat that UConn team the way they were playing, period. How important is it with Coach Staley, the culture that she's building in South Carolina? How important is that program for women's college basketball?
What's funny is that Gino and Don have very similar programs in terms of like in this new NIL world where there's so much player empowerment, right? Like they can leave, they can go do, they come for money, they leave for more money. If you go to UConn in South Carolina, like they're not really paying that much money.
It's not that they can't, it's that they're just sort of like, listen, do you want to contend for national championship? Do you want to be in the W? And if you do, these two programs give you the best opportunity to do both of those things. So it's really interesting because Dawn, I mean, her leading scores came off the bench.
It's tough to convince young women who are becoming famous, who are getting nods from Steph Curry, who are getting a ton of money in brand and marketing deals, that they still need to come off the bench because it's what's best for the program, because it's what's best for the team. But I think...
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Chapter 7: What are the challenges faced by women athletes in professional sports?
talking to her team, the reason that they do that is because specifically with Dawn, because she has literally walked that path, you know, like she is a champion at it, right? Like she's, she was a champion player. She didn't win in college, but she was a national player of the year. She then went on to the pros. She then went on and was a hall of fame coach. She's won the Olympic gold medals.
Like, so they, they really see her as like a TT, you know, like a proud auntie. And she really, she calls herself a dream merchant, but that's because she tries to prepare them for more than just basketball. So they just have such a respect for her. She speaks their language. She meets them where they're at.
um and i think that's why they they buy in but the culture is why she's so consistently in the conversation even with a team that did not have a bona fide superstar like this is the first time don tried to win a national championship without a lotto pick she won her first one with asia wilson the asia wilson right she won her second one with alia boston she won her third one with camilla cardoso they didn't have that this year and they still made the national championship right um
Now, over the years, I've been a fan of women's basketball for years, watching Sue Bird here in New York High School, Shemeika Hoseclaw, and a few other players. The recent surge of women's players... What is happening, though?
Chapter 8: What fun stories does Elle have from her time in radio and sports?
Because it's a different thing that's happening now with women's. Like they just a couple of years ago, they had a higher rated national championship game than the men's championship game, which was when I found out that was crazy to me. It's a way better tournament. Yeah. Like it's just it seems like it's more exciting to watch women's college basketball now than ever before.
Like what is the cause of that? Well, I think part of it is because in the men's side, the really big players, the big names, they're one and done. Like they bounce, right? Cooper Flagg's done. He's out. Zion, like all these big name sort of superstars, they leave. In the women's game, you have to be...
22 years old the year of the draft to lead, which means that in most cases, we're getting them for four years because of COVID. In some cases, like with Paige Beckers, we're getting them for five years. So I think you just get to know them more. You root for them more. They become household names. NIL has helped. They've got incredible brand of marketing deals. They're better on social media.
So they're social media stars on top of what they're doing on the court. And then I just think in general, the game has gotten better. We talked to Gino about this. I asked him this last year. Like, what do you think it is? Because he's, you know, a legacy. He's an OG. And he was like, honestly, I also think there's an appreciation for people meeting the women where they're at.
And he used the example of Diana Taurasi. Like, he was like, when Dee was coming through UConn, everybody's comp was always right. Like, she's like Kobe. She's like a female Kobe. Of course, that's why she's the white mamba. He was like, now the comps are, she's like an Asia Wilson. Yeah. she's like a Brianna Stewart. Right.
And so they appreciate women's game for what it is, as opposed to saying, well, I'd be more interested if they dunked or I'd be more interested if they did this. I think there's just an appreciation for how they play more, but I really do think it comes down to the fact that you just watch them longer. Like you watch them for years with Paige Beckers.
Like you saw her journey, you know how hard it was for her to win that national championship. You were rooting for her. And, and the men's side, they just, they bounce. I mean, most of these Big name superstars. We don't even remember where they went to college because they were only there for a calendar year. I was talking to somebody a few weeks ago.
I said, I don't even can't name the top five picks of the NBA draft. I really can't. I can't name the top five picks. And that's probably the first time in years that I could actually say I cannot name the top five picks of the NBA draft. I'm with you. I mean, I can name Cooper flag, but you know, I'm all like, I always joke whenever someone's like, and who's your pick on the men's side.
I'm like, men play basketball.
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