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Rory & Mal Don't Know Ball | Terrell Suggs

01 May 2025

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. Hey, it's Nora Jones, and my podcast, Playing Along, is back with more of my favorite musicians. Check out my newest episode with Josh Groban. You related to the Phantom at that point. Yeah, I was definitely the Phantom in that. That's so funny. Share each day with me Each night, each morning

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Listen to Nora Jones is Playing Along on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Daniel Alarcon, and this is my friend who's much more famous than I am. I wouldn't go that far, but I'm John Green, co-host of the podcast The Away End with my old friend Daniel.

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On our podcast The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important. Listen to The Away End with Daniel Alarcon and John Green on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and iHeart Podcast presents Soccer Moms. So I'm Leanne. Yeah. This is my best friend Janet. Hey. And we have been joined at the hip since high school. A redacted amount of years later, we're still joined at the hip. Just a little bit bigger hips. This is a podcast, we're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey.

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With all the snacks and drinks. Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer? Oh, they had a BOGO. Well, then you got it. Listen to Soccer Moms on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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And here's Heather with the weather.

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Well, it's beautiful out there, sunny and 75, almost a little chilly in the shade. Now, let's get a read on the inside of your car. It is hot. You've only been parked a short time, and it's already 99 degrees in there. Let's not leave children in the back seat while running errands. It only takes a few minutes for their body temperatures to rise, and that could be fatal.

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Cars get hot, fast, and can be deadly. Never leave a child in a car. A message from NHTSA and the Ad Council.

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Blending VICE's signature dynamic storytelling with the high-octane world of sports, VICE Sports brings an exciting and diverse range of programming that goes beyond the game.

Chapter 2: What are Terrell Suggs' thoughts on the new generation of rappers?

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And did you purify yourself in the waters of Lake Minnetonka? In the waters of Lake Minnetonka, I did not. I mean, I'm glad I saw that because I didn't want to play with toys no more. I know exactly what I want to play with. But it's very cold. You know what I'm saying? It's very cold in Minnesota. And it's also like it's a jungle in the sense of athletes. You know what I'm saying?

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People don't know just how competitive like Minnesota is. You know what I mean? And like I was just telling my girl the other day, I was like, It's like there's 12 Terrells out of 10 kids. You know what I'm saying? Like, because like you, you had to ball like Joe Mauer. People don't know that Joe Mauer was the only player on an inner city team. And he was the best player. Right.

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Like, like Joe Mauer and like is a legend in Minnesota, especially in St. Paul. Yeah.

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He played, like, he played, you know, you played midget and peewee ball. He was 10, you know what I'm saying? He was 8 when we were 10. And he was the best player. Dominated. Not just in football, but basketball. You know what I'm saying? Like, in peewee football, they pretty much let Joe kind of, like, Like, he can audible. Like, have you heard of audible in football? You know what I'm saying?

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Like, the kid had it. You know what I mean? Like, I go to say, needless to say, like I said, like, it was just a slew of kids. But, you know, it's all in the, it's like a concrete jungle. You know, we're all on top of each other. You know what I mean? It's like... I tell my kids all the time, we didn't have the kind of resources y'all have and people can see y'all play.

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It was hard to make it out in the inner city because you didn't have streaming and the internet just came online. It wasn't as vast as it is now. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

Chapter 3: How did Terrell Suggs first encounter go-go music?

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like we just had kids upon kids, like that just had gold. You know what I mean? So like when I moved to Arizona, I was like 15 years old, they'd never seen nothing like me. They'd be like, you're 15? I was like, yeah. You know what I'm saying? I was kind of like a man child or something like that. You know what I mean?

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Minnesota, people need to, one thing they don't know about Minnesota, they know it's cold, but they need to know about the talent in Minnesota. The girl, Paige Bucket, just went number one. Minnesota, you know what I'm saying? Larry Fitzgerald, Minnesota. Of course, Jay Sizzle, Jalen Suggs, you know what I mean? Orlando Magic, Minnesota. You know what I mean?

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But we got some things up there, you know what I mean? On the Mighty Ducks? Yeah.

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Mighty Ducks.

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Chapter 4: What are the criteria for Hall of Fame selection according to Terrell Suggs?

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I couldn't change, though. You know what I'm saying? I always wanted to be a duck, but I couldn't skate. You know, black people, we only want to play hockey for the fighting. That's it. That's it. You know what I'm saying? It's like, what's up? What's happening? Right. You know, show our skills. Was there any Prince sightings when you were out there?

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I mean, I know you're only there for 15 years, but. No, he also like. He wasn't floating over the city. First Avenue, baby. Yeah. You know, him and Moore's day in the time, but we never, there's a mural of Prince, but I've never seen him.

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Did you feel like when you moved to Arizona, did you feel like growing up in Minnesota, kind of like you were ahead of the curve against other kids in Arizona because you had come from such an environment that was cold?

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Yeah, I did.

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You had to deal with the elements of the weather and things like that? Yeah. I felt like, like I said, because of the talent level, like the talent pool, it was so crowded. You know what I'm saying? If you wanted to stand out, you had to stand out. Your game had to do it for you. You know what I mean? You couldn't talk in there, but, you know, you come down to nice, sunny Arizona.

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They living good. They comfortable. You remember like when Killmonger walk up in Wakanda like, yo. Like, I'm hungry. I'm going to be uncomfortable. You know what I'm saying? So it was kind of like that. Like, think of that.

Chapter 5: How did Terrell Suggs feel about not being a first ballot Hall of Famer?

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When Killmonger showed up in Wakanda, that's exactly how it showed up in Arizona. I was like, oh, this is for a take it. It wasn't, you know, it wasn't 12 Terrell to every 10 kids. You know what I'm saying? It was more like four. And I was like, oh. Oh, I'm going to tear these odds up. You know what I'm saying? And it kind of spoke for itself. Yeah. Culturally, what was that shift like?

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Because, I mean, it's not like you move from New York to Philly where, yeah, it's different, but it's still sort of the same. That's like polar opposites of the country. I tell, yeah, I tell my girl and I tell my sons all the time, I'm like, yo, when I left Minnesota and I arrived in Phoenix, I had hope. You know what I'm saying? It was just like, yo, I could do something.

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I could make, I'm like, yo, this could be my life. You know what I'm saying? Like people don't realize like Phoenix is like paradise.

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every day you wake up in paradise every day the weather's beautiful except in the summer you know we get 120 and 125 it's ridiculous but like when I got here and I saw just like everybody was happy and you see these nice houses big houses and land and no snow and it was just like like I said When I moved to Phoenix, I had hope. I was like, I can do something with my life.

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I could potentially make it. If I go all in on myself, I could potentially make it. And I did. I ended up getting a scholarship. You know what I'm saying? That change of scenery did everything for me. What was the reason your family moved to Arizona? The winners. My dad, he had lung cancer.

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Okay.

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And the winter was too hard on him. And, like, he would have to miss work for, like, weeks and weeks at a time because the wind was so bad. You know, you're in the inner city. You're poor. It ain't like you got a reliable car with reliable heat and anything like that. So, like, the winters was too bad for him. My auntie had already lived down here. So he backed us up and moved.

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Backed up his boy and moved down here. What were you thinking? Because, I mean, 15, you got friends, you settled. I didn't want to go. So what I was thinking, I was like, yo, I'm just going to get in some fights, be bad, get kicked out of school, get sent back. You know what I'm saying? That was your plan. Yeah. I was like, I'll be back in about a month, two months. You know what I'm saying?

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But like I said, when I got down here and I was just like, Yeah. Wow. Yeah, I could do this. I ain't going back.

Chapter 6: How does Terrell Suggs view the evolution of tight ends in the NFL?

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Man. Like, DMX was high school. DMX and Jay-Z was high school. I mean, 98 to 2000, I feel like it was the age-old debate of X versus Jay-Z. X versus Jay-Z? You chose X? I chose X. Definitely. I think X was, you know, cause like Jay-Z was quote unquote, you know, he had like that, that, that big daddy flow, you know, he had the pretty boy, you know what I'm saying?

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Champagne, you know, X was street. Yeah. X was hood. Absolutely. We ain't popping champagne. Like, no, I'm walking my dogs, my pit bulls, you know what I'm saying? Like X was just, just gritty. Whereas Jay-Z was like, all right, yeah, you know, get the girls. We're going to go party, big pimping and all that. But like, yeah, was street. You know what I'm saying? Like, X was it, man.

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Was Arizona more on the West Coast shit when you got there? But I mean, I know it started to die down a bit around that time. Yeah, no. They were big on the West Coast. I mean, I think Arizona, they really cling kind of like to the L.A. music scene. I think artists here kind of like, their flows try to be like similar. You know what I'm saying? Like, but... I don't think they really venture out.

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Like they don't have their own, not here in Phoenix, they don't have their own like musical kind of like niche or their own style. Like, you know, Bay Area rappers, they're not LA rappers. They got their own thing. You know what I mean? So like Phoenix, I think they just kind of like cling to the LA scene. Maul's into the Chicano rap, so I know that's big out there. I'm into all rap, man.

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I'll listen to anything, man. Whether it's good or not, I just want to hear it. Let me know if this is the sound coming out of this city. I'm like, all right, let me hear it. If it's trash, I'm going to let you know I can't get into that. It's not for me. Yeah, and it's like, you know... When we grew up, we was really big on like lyrical ability, lyrical talent. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

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Now you just get a nice little repetitive beat and a clingy little saying, maybe a little dance or a TikTok. You know what I mean? Get your song put on TikTok and that's what they consider hot now. You know what I mean?

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Yeah.

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Like, when we grew up, you really had to have talent. Absolutely. And, like, the women really had to have talent. Like, you had to be able to spit with the men. Now it's just kind of what they call, like, stripper rap. Yeah. You just got to look good. You just got to look good. How good is your pussy? You got to break a bag and all this other shit. But, like, even them, they had to spit. Yeah.

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Yeah. Foxy Brown. Yeah. And remember, they used to put them girls in like gauntlets and have to go round for round with the men. Like, no, you weren't just rapping against other girls.

Chapter 7: What was Terrell Suggs' experience growing up in Minnesota?

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Doja Cat can really rap too. Yeah. They have a good balance of raps and pussy raps. I kind of put her more in pop, like R&B. I feel like, I don't know, because I don't buy a dozer rap.

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like album but i wouldn't mind like smashing you know definitely a little bit she's sexy she's in my algorithms too yeah for non-musical like i kind of i kind of see like she she can go in either category but i see her more as like an r&b singer or a pop yeah check out her most recent album that was last year right yeah that's she's rapping on that

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It's a little less pop than... She had to paint the town red or something.

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Yeah, that was a single on it, yeah.

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That album was crazy. I was too busy looking at her naked.

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Trying to paint the town.

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I love that she's natural. She had no BBLs in her. Yo, T, you're a homie. You know who I am. It's a beautiful relationship. You know who I am. She know what kind of man I am. What do you think about the music your kids listen to? I hate it. I hate it. Like there's nothing against the artists that they like. You know what I'm saying?

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It's just what I get from my, like when my son's like playing the shit loud in his room, like I'm like, that shit trash. And he like yelling it. Who is he listening to, though? Who is he listening to? Rod Wave. He loves Rod Wave. Okay. Forcing themselves to be depressed. That song's trash. And he bought them by his whole government. And I'm like, dude, this is nasty, man. Like, get off of it.

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Like, straight up. That's why I don't like soft parenting. I like that. Yeah, yeah. He like, no, we don't do soft parenting. That don't work for us.

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