Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
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Oh, you hit it. You got the tea? You got the Earl Grey? They got the Earl Grey on you? Are we recording? I hope we are. Earl Grey on you? That's how you want to speak about my lovely mother? No, I'm just saying. How was it? It was a lot to process. It was a lot to process. As I'm getting older, my mother and I are getting closer.
We've always been really close, but closer on an adult level, much more than a mother-son level. So I see a lot of things that I never saw that she hid from me. And we've been to concerts together, but you know. I went to like the Mariah Carey Heartbreaker tour with her. Yeah, that was safe. Yeah, you know. I went to like safe concerts. Yeah.
I have not gone to a concert where the theme of the concert is for the lead singer to take his shirt off and that's what everyone anticipates throughout the show. Right, right. Okay. I wasn't aware of that. And I don't like how Adam Levine is almost 50 and looks that good. Right. It's incredible. So I guess we can just start at the beginning. Yeah, let's do it.
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Chapter 2: How do Rory and Mal reflect on their Labor Day weekends?
Keep everything COVID static. Because I feel like Adam probably doesn't put his shirt back on. No. When he's backstage. No. You don't work out and leave your shirt on after you take it off. And it was like a perfect end of summer night where he was like glistening just enough for my mother to go crazy. Yeah. Neither here nor there.
So I'm glad you had a great night with Adam and Maroon 5 and PJ Morton and mom. I thought about you. I wanted to wait until I got the reaction live. I didn't want to ask you about it. I didn't want to text you. Stayed till Sunday in Philly. How was it? Hopped over to Made in America in the rain. Mind you, I didn't pack to go to a festival. Right. I only had like nice clothes.
But I went to... Fucked up your good new balances? No, I went to Made in America in the rain in Dior's. Oh my God. Listen, I didn't leave the fucking tent because it was raining. Yeah. So they stayed completely fine. But I did feel like I was... I got there and was like, aren't you past forcing things? Yeah, yeah. Like... Yeah.
I even grabbed a drink like, maybe this will loosen me up and I'll start to enjoy. I really stopped there. Why am I here? What... You could have been on 95 right now. Trust me. I've had plenty nights like that where I'm like, I forced it. Never again. Yeah. Never again. But May was cool. Just the rain kind of fucked it up. Towards the end of the night, it stopped and it was cool.
But it was nice to run into some people, seeing all the Griselda guys. It was nice to see them all together. Their performance was great. Yeah, it was cool. I saw some of Doja Cat's set. I said, if Rory's there, he's going crazy right now. I was side stage, my brother. It was going crazy? I was on the side of the stage. Yeah, yeah. She looked good. She looked good. She sounded good.
The crowd seemed to enjoy it. But yeah, I knew I wasn't going. I got invited to come down there, but I was like, nah, I'm cool. The weather was kind of trash. Yeah, it was... It just wasn't a good... Between... COVID kind of running rampant again.
And the safety rules that are required for Maine America, which did make me feel good because they definitely like you had to go through apps and put your fucking tests and vaccine cards and all. It was tough to get in. So that made me feel better. But between that. The rain, just people weren't really into it that same way. And it was not made in America's fault.
It was just a weird energy at that time. That's what it is about festivals. If the weather is not up to par, it's hit or miss. The great thing is if it's great weather, great time. Yeah. But shit, let's get to the nitty gritty, man. Let's get to it, man.
What we got?
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Chapter 3: What are the key themes in the review of the Certified Lover Boy album?
But, and that was great he got Nicki because Nicki needed to say that. I'm going to go get y'all mom. I mean, all these chicks, Nicki is your mom. I've been trying to say that and they call me a barber, whatever. No, I'm a barber. Don't call me one. I know I'm a barber. Like, just like I know I'm a black man, but don't call me a black man. I know I'm a black man.
Poppy's Home for me was a, I liked it. I thought it was a good record. Um, I just like to hear good raps, good lyrics, good beats.
that's it simple as long as you're rapping you're getting your shit off uh you're saying some slick shit uh your flow your cadence um did you sing along to daddy's home no i can't sing that okay you would never hear me saying daddy's home no no you would never hear me saying that but but to me it was a good song you see ignore that right i wouldn't skip it like if it comes on i'm not skipping that i'm not skipping that track if it comes on who produced that did 40 do that one
It is. Because to me, that sounds like a 40s not bored on that one. That beat was so good. I just didn't need to talk to his kids. Or talk to your kids, but just don't use that stuff. You don't like Daddy's Home. No, I get it. I get what you're saying. Oriomi, Super Mario, Jarrell Young, and Mark Barino. Well, y'all smoked that beat. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The raps was good.
The beat was good. It's Drake. The raps are going to be good. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's hard for me not to like. Like, I don't. I don't look at none of these artists for like super deep introspective shit from their lives, lives like that. Wait, I didn't say he needed to do that. No, no, I'm not saying, I'm not saying you say that.
I actually wouldn't want him to on that record.
No, I'm not saying you said that. I'm saying in general, I don't really like, to me, this is all entertainment. Like I don't really, you know what I mean? I'm not looking for much other than yo rap. Good. Give me some flows. Give me a good beat. Talk some slick shit. Uh, you know, say some witty shit in your bars. And to me, I'm satisfied after that. I don't really need much after that. Uh,
Girls Want Girls. Now, this is one we were talking about when we walked in today. You were saying that you didn't particularly care for this track that much. This would have been a great leak. Okay. This is cool as a leak to me. A leak that doesn't make it on the album? Yes. Okay. I think... All right, maybe I need to hear it in the setting where girls are liking girls.
And I could really fuck with it that way. And Drake does that a lot with me where I would dislike a song when I first hear it on the album. And I'll hear it in a setting four months later. I'm like, eh, all right, I get it. I think this is going to be one of those ones for you. I just initially after that... Again, it felt like it felt like an incomplete song.
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Chapter 4: What are the emotional impacts of Andre 3000's verse about his mother?
it was so intimate and it was so personal that I felt like it was given to the, to us the wrong way. And I was like, you know, this was a, a missed opportunity one, but it was, it just wasn't, you don't get the full art of it because it was given the, it was given to us the wrong way. You know what I mean?
And that's why I was like, damn, like I, it's 103,000 amazing verse, but it was just so special.
Um,
you know, to be on Donda and, you know, it, again, it's unfortunate because it, you know, it fell into some bullshit. It fell into, you know, the middle of, uh, some bickering and some quote unquote beef. And this is not what this is about. This is a, this puts all of that shit to the side. This puts life in, this verse put life into perspective. You know what I mean?
Like we can beef and bicker all we want, but this is what life is.
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Chapter 5: How do personal relationships shape our understanding of grief?
This is the seriousness of life. This is how delicate life is. This is how fragile life is. Um, And it was just a real intimate, private, personal, heartfelt, emotional verse that I think just fell in, you know, stumbled into unnecessary drama. And, you know, again, I want to get into the concept of the verse.
I know, of course, the concept of it, the concept of OK, thousands verse of telling this to Donda. Of course, the obvious Donda album, Kanye's mother passed to talking to Miss Donda. It reminded me. Do you have that other mother that you talk to about your family? Because I don't care how close you and your mother are.
There are certain things that you just don't talk about that you would like to talk about. But there's still that mother-son component there. We're not friends. And we are still family. And there are certain things I just can't tell you. For example... My friend Raven, her mother, we talk a lot.
I talk to her a lot about certain things I can't say to my mom, certain things from my childhood I can't say to my mom that I would like to, but it's probably not the right place or time to do so. But there are things you need to say and you can only really say them to a mother.
Like, I could talk to my friends all day about certain shit, but you can only talk to a mother sometimes about motherly shit. So just that concept of talking to another mother about all the shit you have kind of had in your head about your mother's life, your family's life, is such an incredible concept to me to begin with. And I don't care that I'm nerding out on this type of shit.
But going into that grieving process, I feel like when people die... we either immortalize them in the sense that they were the greatest human being that has ever lived, or they were a piece of shit. It's typically, I feel like, how things go when people die. Humanizing both your parents and your experience with them after they pass and then sharing that with the public
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Chapter 6: What lessons can we learn from Michael K. Williams' legacy?
is some shit i couldn't even really fathom like to really put that in perspective after your mother dies because all you want to do is be like well she raised me she was the greatest woman ever but andre 3000 has one of those rappers that can say so much in one bar and mean a thousand fucking things to even say of course if i'm doing a tribute to my mother i want to say all the amazing things but him adding him i mean i don't really miss her overstepping yeah yeah
And we all have had that type of experience with a parent where you feel like when people pass, there are certain things that I know we don't like to admit it because it's taboo to say, but... You do have some relieving feelings in certain places. Right. They weren't a perfect person that you don't have to deal with on certain things.
So to add in those little tidbits of putting your parents in a human level of saying, yeah, they was just some kids. My mother spited my father. That was wrong. But she was a hurt woman. Right. Does my father have shame over it? Like going through your real childhood after they passed is... Some real human shit to me. It's not, yo, she was the greatest mother. She did everything for me.
She struggled. I'm here because of this. Of course, we all know that story. This is a real one to me. Yeah. And the reason why this was special was because out of all the tracks on the album, on the Donda album, I think this was the one that kind of summed up what I thought the album was going to be about when I heard the title. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Donda, which is Kanye's mom who passed.
So this was like to me, this was this this summed up a lot for the meaning of the album. And, you know, like you said, for two of these artists whose mom moms transitioned, it was just, you know, a beautiful, beautiful, intimate, honest verse. And that, you know, again, I'm just I'm mad we didn't receive it the way we should have received it.
This is kind of like, you know, spoiling a surprise party. Yeah. And this is what it felt like to me. It's like, damn, this would have been amazing. You know, even it's still an amazing piece of art, but it's like we didn't receive it the way I think we should have.
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Chapter 7: How does the podcast reflect on the 20th anniversary of 9/11?
And to even get into like. Back to the idea of things you kind of wish you could share with your mother about your childhood of. Maybe intimate moments with, you know, when you had to keep that a secret because teenagers aren't really supposed to be fucking. And the church part, y'all can debate. I don't give a fuck about that. Yeah.
But to me, that was like, he probably wanted to have that conversation with his mother at one point. Mm hmm. Because you all the things that you would probably need your parent through. Mm hmm. As far as losing virginity.
Mm hmm.
getting into that sexual experience, going through puberty and all that type of things. We're trained to hide those things from our parents. You can never really have those conversations. I think that's why a lot of times shit gets fucked up and doesn't go correctly. Right. Because you really got to hide that shit.
But that was the beautiful part about this is because he, like you said, he was talking to...
kanye's mom like can you tell her because i don't want to tell her no but that's what i'm saying like with the raven's mom thing there's so much things i would love to tell my mother about my childhood about my teenage years but i just don't think we're there yet right love we're just starting to get to that point where i can tell her certain things that happened already so that's why that concept is so ill and even to go deeper on that uh mother concept
Of him saying the other girl's mother knew, but she was going to let us experiment. Right. Remember that cool mom conversation we had a long, long, long time ago? Mm-hmm. That there was always the cool mom in the crib? Yeah. We did it in a joking way, but I don't think we ever got into... how important the cool mom kind of is.
The cool mom in my neighborhood actually came with my mom to the Maroon 5 show. She set up an environment where it was safe, but she really let everybody explore in that basement. She knew what was going on down there. Nobody was leaving that fucking house. She knew who was coming in and out of that house. She knew the things that would have been needed, i.e. condoms, things like that.
She would have those types of talks with people. That was, in retrospect, I used to think, yo, that was the wildest house ever. First time I ever touched a vagina. First time I touched a titty. First time I got drunk. First time I got high. I had a lot of first times in that basement. And we always talk, yo, that was a wild fucking place. No, it wasn't.
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