Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Steelers Disrespecting Joey Porter Jr.? + Harbaugh on Chargers Upset Loss

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What are the Steelers’ plans for Joey Porter Jr.’s contract and guaranteed money?

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James "Deebo" Harrison 0:32
you get your podcasts. What do you what what what kind of guarantee would you would you think he was worth?
Joe Haden 0:41
With Joey Porter Jr., I think if he goes to the if he goes to the open market, it's a difference between what the Steelers are going to try and do and what Every other team, I think, in NFL do. When we talk about guaranteed money, this is the only organization that doesn't really do it. The only dude that they've been given the guaranteed money to is TJ Watt in the past. TJ Watt has signed the four in 2021 when he signed four years, 112 million, they gave him 80 million guaranteed. And in his last extension, he signed three years, 123 million with 180. eight million dollars guaranteed. That is it. And TJ Watt has been First team all pros, set and sack records, and all of that stuff. So he has the stats, the accolades to go with it.
Joe Haden 1:27
So I think with the, and that's that's the one. The next one that's got the most guaranteed is DK Metcalf, a recent deal where DK got four years, 132 million, with 60 million guaranteed. The Steelers normally only give that first year of signing bonus guaranteed contract, and then the Rest of the rest the for your first year basically is guaranteed from the Steelers. They give you your signing bonus, and that's what your guaranteed portion is. So with Joey Porter Jr., if it's around, if they're saying 33 million for the Steelers, that's just like one one year. What is it? So it's basically gonna get a one-year deal. And with the Steelers, they normally pay it out. Cam Hayward, he signed his first deal in 2015 with six years, 50, 59 million with 15.
Joe Haden 2:11
million guaranteed his second deal in 2020 four years 65 million with 26 guaranteed so it's basically you can get up to the two years of your contract guaranteed but they don't do more than that with Witherspoon that's that that's that's the first three years of his contract because he's if you're making 30 million dollars a year 30 60 90 is right right around 100 and then he has two more years left on his deal so it's a five year contract with three of those years are guaranteed so basically And then Basically, Witherspoon's playing on a three-year, $100 million contract, fully guaranteed with two years on the back end. With Joey Porter Jr., if he signs a four-year deal, the Steelers are looking like you look, you go, you're signing a four-year deal, you're gonna get your first year guaranteed.
Joe Haden 2:49
And then the next three years, you're on the squad making around 20, let's say $25 million a year, average price per year, but it's not guaranteed. And with Joey Porter Jr., if you go to a different team, they will be Able to give you those diff those higher contracts because teams normally do it. But the Steelers, in their history, they only give up normally the first year guaranteed, maybe two. So with Joey Porter, his number, if you go to the open market, it's going to be right around that number you're looking for. 92, around 90 million dollars guaranteed, depending on the length of the contract. But with the Steelers, that's not something that they're looking to do. So it's Like It's tough. It's tough because
James "Deebo" Harrison 3:29
where do you see his guarantee being as far as what you would do? What I would do? A worst case scenario. What's what's your bottom?
Joe Haden 3:35
Bottom line, I would go around the if it was a four year, if it was a four year deal, I would do four years. It would look it would look basically like T J Watts deal. I would want him to get around four years, a hundred and twelve with eighty guaranteed.

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