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Nightcap Hour 1: SGA and Thunder TAKE CARE of Spurs + Wemby STILL CONFIDENT

23 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

0.892 - 8.263 Shannon Sharpe

Hey guys, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas.

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We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions.

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17.737 - 28.873 Shannon Sharpe

Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but you know. Tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.

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Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy. Not quite. On Humor Me with Robert Smigel and Friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guests, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an acapella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes.

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Those people are starving for banter. Listen to Humor Me with Robert Smigel and friends on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

59.802 - 83.287 Shannon Sharpe

I'm Joey Dardano, and on my new podcast, Hope from a Hypocrite, I'll be changing lives, helping people in need with thoughtful solutions. Psych! I'm a comedian. I'm not qualified to give good advice. Join me and my comedian friends as we riff, rant, and recommend some of the most legally dubious advice known to man. This is Help from a Hypocrite, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know.

83.768 - 101.028 Shannon Sharpe

Listen to Help from a Hypocrite Wednesdays on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's Edwin Castro, also known as Castro1021. And I'm Konky, his best friend and business manager. And we've got a new show called The 1021 Podcast.

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I'm taking you behind the scenes on how I became one of Twitch's most popular streamers. We also love sports. And with the World Cup right around the corner, we'll be breaking down the biggest storylines ahead of the big tournament here in the USA.

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Listen to the 1021 podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Chapter 2: How did the Thunder manage to beat the Spurs?

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So I'm Leanne. Yeah. This is my best friend Janet. Hey. And we have been joined at the hip since high school. Absolutely. Now a redacted amount of years later, we're still joined at the hip. Just a little bit bigger hips, wider. This is a podcast. We're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey. With all the snacks and drinks. Sidebar.

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Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer? Well, they had a BOGO. Well, then you got them. Do you want a white collar or something? Here, just take it. What are y'all doing? Microphones? Are you making a rap album? Oh, I would. I would buy it. Cuts through the defense like a hot knife through sponge cake. That sounds delicious. Oh, you're lucky I'm not a drug addict.

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You're lucky I'm not an alcoholic. You're lucky I'm not a killer. I love this team, and I'm really trying to be a figure in their lives that they can rely on. Oh. Listen to Soccer Moms on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Joe, you talk about how those guys come in and play because I think the thing is that them playing so much because Jalen Williams goes out, now you get a backup coming in, he's playing substantial minutes. You get Shea going out and you get a backup coming in, he's playing substantial minutes. You get Chet going out. You get a backup. You get Jalen Williams coming in playing substantial minutes.

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You get Hartenstein going out. A backup comes in. He's playing substantial minutes. Dort might miss some time, and you get a backup coming in. And so now when it's time for them to come in and play meaningful minutes in meaningful games, they're unbothered by it. We've done this. This is what we do.

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Just because you think there's more pressure because it's the playoffs, it's still 12 minutes and a quarter. Ain't nothing changed. We still got three officials. Point line is still 22 in the corner, 25 at the top. Don't nothing change. And so when you go look at them and you look at the moment, they're not in awe of it. They're not, bro. And I think the thing is, Joe, and I... I like the Spurs.

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But I think the Spurs are going to have to go through what OKC went through. You remember that OKC was favored to beat the Mavs.

959.365 - 959.966 Chad Ochocinco Johnson

Yeah, yeah.

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When the Mavs shocked them. Yeah. They had to go through what they went through with the Mavs to get them where they are right now. And I believe the Spurs are going to have to face a similar fate in order for them to get to ultimately where they need to be. Go ahead, Ochoa. What did you like about what you saw tonight?

Chapter 3: What role did the bench players play in the Thunder's victory?

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He'll guard a point. He'll guard a two. He'll guard a three. Hell, throw him in there a couple of minutes on a four to give him something. He's stronger than he look. I know he look frail. He look thin. But he's stronger than he look. He's not afraid of the moment to take a big shot. He plays defense and he'll take a charge. He'll block a shot from behind. He's phenomenal.

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He's exactly what they needed. And when you look at this roster, you get a Jerry McCain. You got a Caruso coming off the bench. You got Wallace. Wallace, second team, all defense. Caruso could have been an all defensive player. Yeah, yeah. Chet, second team, all defense. Yeah. Lou Dort plays outstanding defense. Isaiah Joe comes in and he knocks down a shot. Mm-hmm.

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Man, listen, if I'm Shea, you look at the starters for OKC, fellas, everybody was a minus when it comes to plus minus except Shea. He was a plus 11. Everybody else was minus. You look at they bench, though. They bench plus 28, plus 26, plus 22. Bro, I don't know if it's ever happened like this in the postseason. I mean, J.M. McCain, I think that's a career high for him tonight.

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Yeah, Jalen Williams, that's a career high for him also. Yeah, yeah. But when you look at it, when you look at it, you're thinking to yourself, man, who going to come along on the ride with me if you shade? Because you really don't know Jada about. You wish you could get more scoring output from Holmgren, but, you know, he's just not giving you that.

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And you get McCain come in, he act like he AI out there. I'm talking about getting to his spots. He does. shooting the middie, shooting the three, being disruptive. Him, Caruso, J-Dub, man, I'm talking about it was such a special performance. I enjoyed watching it because when you get down like that early in the game, you take they best blow. That was the best blow that San Antonio threw.

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They trying to get them out of there early. Man, them boys didn't blink, bruh. They didn't blink. They stayed with it and was able to fight back in the game. And from after the first quarter, hell, they controlled the whole game, bro. They controlled the rest of the game. Your hunger made first team all defense. Go ahead, Ojo.

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You know, I got a question, and y'all would be well-versed to be able to answer this. You think about the way the Spurs are constructed, not only the five starters, but the way the bench is constructed and the way they're able to score and not miss a beat when some of their key players go out.

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name another NBA team that has been constructed where the starters can go out and everyone else will still just be efficient and you don't miss a goddamn beat. The Spurs has been pretty good. You know, they just didn't, they benched just didn't have a great night tonight. You know, unfortunately, you know what I mean?

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I just think OKC understood like, damn, we got to go down here and get at least one. It'll be great if we can win game three. You know, now try and be a little greedy, get game four and see if you can go and get these boys out of here. But, when we go back home. Yeah, yeah, I just thought, I thought they were so poor, especially in that second half coming down the stretch.

Chapter 4: How does Wemby feel about facing a deficit for the first time?

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So if you think about it, when you see them on the court, they'll never have less than three defenders on the court at any given time. Nah. Nevertheless, a lot of times you'll see him with three defenders, Shea, and a big. Sometimes it's Chet. Sometimes it's Hartenstein. But they're going to have three guys, and they can switch everything. Yeah. That's what makes them so unique.

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And you got to give Sam Presti some credit, fellas. Like Unk said, hell, he went out there and got Caruso. He went out there and got McCain for a bag of chips and some donuts. It's like, bro, how? How? I mean, McCain, I think... the aggressiveness that McCain plays with, bro, you know, he understood the assignment, Ocho, meaning, damn, we need a second score tonight.

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You know, we need somebody to be aggressive because there's so much attention on Shea, and as bad as we want Shea to get loose and break out and have one of these 35, 40-point games, San Antonio too damn good for that. I'm going to just be honest. He had 30 that last game, had 26 tonight.

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But if they get contribution from these other guys to where they can play above and beyond like tonight, I'm not saying it's going to happen every night. Maybe OKC bench gets outplayed in game four by San Antonio bench. But tonight, their bench won them this game, bro. Their bench won them this game.

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And I also thought, oh, Joe and Joe, I thought San Antonio let their emotions get the best of them. You see what happened? Because Caruso, they're taught, I'm not giving you no layups. I'm gonna fire you, go to the free throw line and you're gonna make it. If you see on the breakaway, Castle was getting upset. He's like, no, no, no, you're not getting no layup. You're not getting no breakaway.

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You're not getting no dunk. You're not finna get this crowd riled up. Take your ass to the free throw line and make them. And I thought their message, and you see, They got some ticky-tack files. You pick up a file in the backcourt, and then you get another file. They picked up three files in the first half, Joe, in a matter of 20 seconds.

1598.01 - 1598.911 Chad Ochocinco Johnson

Three files.

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Now guess what? You got them going to the free throw line. You know Shea. He's going to pump fake you. You're going to get up, and then he's going to jump into you. Now he's going to the free throw line. You're looking at the picture like, what? No, you filed it. They did the same thing in the second half. And then I thought their motion, they let their motion get the best of them.

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They're doing a great job. Whatever they decide to say, you know, look, Wimby is an outstanding player, but 24 rebounds. They got a body on him every time. That's why he only got four rebounds. It's not his lack of effort. Go look at him when the ball goes up and see won't somebody find Wimby. It might be Caruso. It might be Wallace. It might be Shea. It might be Chet.

Chapter 5: What insights are shared about Shea's performance in Game 3?

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He was like, hey, when Shea shot that shot in game two, he was like, hey, Shea, Shea. Shut the fuck up. He called my name, I been in the middle of the shot. Hey, hey, Shea was looking for his ass tonight, though, I tell you that. Hey, he sure was. But I told you, Joe, the Lakers had that lead in the fourth quarter, and dude came in and hit two big threes.

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And then one, he hit one, Hardenstein, maybe it was Hardenstein or Chet had set a pick behind the three-point line. And he just turned and let it – I was like – I was like, yeah, it ain't looking good for us. If a bench player comes out, if Shea hits that shot, I ain't giving him a second thought. I was like, oh, that's Shea.

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But you're talking about a bench player coming off and hitting a 25, 26 foot three off a pick and just lets it go. But I think when you got great bench players, those are guys who come in the game and they feel like they can start or should be starting.

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Chapter 6: How do bench players impact a team's success?

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So they play with their sense of urgency. They play with their confidence. It's oozing out of them. You can tell. They look comfortable out there on the court. I mean, McCain great in the pick and roll, getting into the teeth of the defense, shooting his floaters, shooting his middie. He plays well off Shea because he's a catch-and-shoot guy. And he's tough-minded defensively, bro.

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Like, he has all the makeup of being a hell of a player in this league. And see, that's what, when you got a guy like that, a guy that's a great one-on-one player, he need guys that can catch and shoot. Yes, sir. Guys that can catch and shoot. LeBron want guys that can catch and shoot. Yes, sir. Hard-wanted guys that can catch and shoot. Steph, that's why he and Klay work so well. Yeah.

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Chapter 7: What strategies are discussed for overcoming a strong opponent?

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and when they got Kevin Durant. So now you got three of the all-time great shooters. I wish you would help off either one of them and see what happened to you. Absolutely. Absolutely. Go ahead, Ocho. I was going to say, you could tell Coach and his teammates also believe in him and gave him that green light. Yeah, he shot 21 times. 21 times tonight. Shea only shot 17.

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So you know that he got the green light from somebody. Once you get in there, man, do what you do. Don't even think about it. You have to be a great complimentary piece, bro. When you got a star player who demands so much attention like Shea, you need these other guys around him. who are not indecisive on what they're going to do offensively, whether it's shooting or driving to the basket.

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You need guys who make quick decisions. It's like a quarterback, Uncle Ocho. Hell, when he drop back, can he process things real quick? You know what I mean? Versus holding on to that damn ball three, four seconds. The number one thing, Joe. Huh? That's the number one thing a quarterback gotta have. All that measurable, he's 6'5", he can run 4'2". He can throw it 100 yards.

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I don't give a damn about none of that. How quickly can he process information? There you go. That's the same thing for an intelligent hooper, for a great hooper.

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Chapter 8: How does social media influence player perceptions and reactions?

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It's how fast... can he process what it is that's going to happen? Because you don't really have predetermined moves. You run a pick and roll, hell, you don't know what's going to be open. You know what I mean? But within a split second, you have to be able to make a precise decision on what it is you want to do. I'm going to get a tee to the defense. I'm going to shoot this jump.

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I'm going to shoot this mid. I see my big coming. I see the corner. the corner pass opened way on the weak side. You know what I mean? Like, those are all reads that a point guard or that a guard, period, has to have in this game. And I feel like even when Shea comes off the court and McCain is at the one and he's running at the helm, man, he look like a damn starter at times, bro. He does.

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That's funny. You know what, Joe? And what makes it different? Now, I can't really explain it in basketball terms, but I can explain it in terms of football. Like Unc was saying... it's really important if you have someone that can read and react. It's all about reading and reacting. There you go. And being able to improvise.

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Now, you know what's supposed to happen when you run a certain play, but being able to improvise when something that you don't expect happens and being able to redirect and make those decisions really, really fast, no matter what, with no hesitation, is what makes young people great. Yeah. Absolutely. Because, Ocho, we call plays based on what we think they're going to run.

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Now, what happens if they don't run the defense that we think we're going to get, Ocho? You got to be able to adjust. Quarterback, what you going to do? I know we expect them to run. I understand we expect them to go single high safety. Yeah. But they run quarters. Not what you're going to do. Or they run quarter seven. They run cover five. Cover two man under. Or they run cover six.

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And they kick it. Quarter, quarter, half. And they kicked one to the front side. So now what do you do? How soon can you process that information? I know where I'm supposed to go. Damn it. By your third step, the great quarterback has already processed it. This is not what I anticipated. Now, what did I go through? Where am I supposed to go? Because they already took one away.

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The coverage took one away. the sooner you understand that they've taken one away, and now one, I'm going, now he's one. Ocho's one. TJ was one to begin with, and now Ocho's one. The tight end's two. Back, there you go. And the point guard, like you said, Joe, are they going to trap me? Are they going to blitz me? Is he going to show? Is he hedging? What's he going to do? Right. about that.

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I got to see it. And the really good ones can tell before it even happens. They see plays and they see them unfold and develop in real time, meaning it's not a lot of guys who can read and react, Ocho. You know what I mean? That's an attribute that a lot of the greats have, bro.

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To be able to do that on the fly like that, especially when you got teams mixing up their coverages, sometimes they trap him. You know, sometimes the big is in a low stance. Like, you have to read and react and be able to process all these things. And I think, obviously, OKC has just a true, true championship team, bro, from top to bottom.

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