Chapter 1: What is The Undertaker's legacy in WWE?
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Chapter 2: How has WrestleMania evolved since its inception?
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WWE World, please welcome to the stage the hosts of Nightcap, three-time Super Bowl champ and NFL Hall of Famer, Shannon Sharp, and Bengals Ring of Fame honoree, Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson.
Welcome.
What's up, WWE? He gonna sit there. No, you sit over there. He gonna sit in the middle. How y'all doing? Y'all good? That's what's up, man. This is unbelievable. This is my first time being here, Ocho. And as a wrestling fan my entire life, if somebody would have told me this is what wrestling was going to become, I wouldn't have believed it.
No, this is dope. The atmosphere has been awesome. The fans have been awesome. Being able to meet some of the wrestlers.
Oh, that's what's the best part about this.
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Chapter 3: What insights does The Undertaker share about character development?
And hearing their journey and how they got here to what most would consider the finished product on why we're all fans of them has been really dope to experience.
It's unbelievable. It's an unbelievable experience.
I mean, they do an unbelievable job of promoting. Yeah, and I've set up and torn out this stage with my own two hands.
We've traveled this land packed like minivans. And all this for the fans. Girls, why do you bang? I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like.
Seven-time world champion of WWE, 27 Mania appearances, he's 25 and 2. He has 21 straight WrestleMania victories. Here he is, Undertaker, but we know him as Taker. What's up, man? Taker, you within your, hold on, 25 and 2, so you've been to 27 of these things, 21 straight victories.
From the very first one till now, what is the biggest difference that you think in WrestleMania when you started as opposed to what it is now? Man, just the spectacle. I mean, look out here. Look at all these people. It's unbelievable, man. It's electric. This, when I started at WrestleMania 7, This did not happen.
This access, the ability to come and meet superstars, take pictures, it was at a much more limited scale. Just this part alone is just, it blows me away. Every year when I come and do an autograph signing or picture signing, It's incredible. Seems like it's getting bigger and bigger. And I think the thing is that I love most about what WWE has done is that it allowed the fans to have access.
It gives you an opportunity to show your personality just outside of the ring and to get an opportunity to meet you guys. Because I don't know how much meet and greet you guys had when you first started this.
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Chapter 4: How does The Undertaker view the current wrestling landscape?
Not very many. You know, we got here and just kind of focused on, well, most guys focused on their match. The match. Early on, I focused on a lot of things. They didn't necessarily have the fans involved, but again, as we grew, man, this is almost as important as WrestleMania. Yes. I mean, this is an incredible opportunity for people to get really close to the people that they support.
Help me understand this. You create a character, you and the WWE create a character. How did they help you develop that character? How did you embrace that character and say, okay, I'm the Undertaker. This is what I need, because when you think of Undertaker, you think all black. You think of a mortician, and you think of something cold and sinister.
How did they help you to develop that character, and how did you embrace it so well? I think it varies between talent to talent. Okay. For me, I was presented a look in the name. OK. Say this is what we think is, you know, they needed somebody big with zero personality. And there I walked through the door.
But for me, once I was given the initial image and then told me, you know, okay, this is going to be based off of an old Western undertaker. And then the lights just kind of started going off for me. So there isn't a real set pattern. Like for me, I took the ball and started running with it and figuring this thing out. Some guys come in and they're like, I don't know.
So they need a little bit more help and direction. And you have other guys that have already been here. It's amazing the amount of input that you get from other wrestlers. They're driving up and down the roads back then. I'll give you a, I'll give you an example.
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Chapter 5: What are The Undertaker's thoughts on mentoring younger wrestlers?
Um, you know, I, I've heard there was a time there where I carried people after I beat them, I put them in body bags. Right. Right. And everybody think that's just some sinister shit. Right.
Yeah.
And of all people to give me that idea was the nicest guy in the world, which was Ricky Steamboat. The dragon. Yeah, he came up and he says, he goes, hey, you ever thought about this? And I was like, that's genius. So, you know...
Some guys, they need help in that development, and then other guys just take that ball and they just kind of go down that rabbit hole and figure out, okay, how am I going to make this my own? And that's the key to being successful. You can have the greatest idea, the greatest look, but if you don't make it your own, These people, they're not going to buy it.
And they're not going to invest in it. So that's the key.
When you look at the state of wrestling, as great as it is now, as a product in general, internationally, globally, has your perspective changed from a business aspect now that you're on the creative side?
Yeah, but you always want to have your thumb on what it is that's reaching your audience. And that becomes difficult. When you do get behind the scenes, you have to remember... that you're not necessarily creating for yourself anymore, right? So you're creating for the masses, so you have to not only be able to take, okay, well, this is what I like,
Okay, well, that might be great, but that's only going to affect like 20% of these people. You have to be able to get your fingers out there and make it a net and get everybody what everybody wants to enjoy. So it's a pretty difficult process to do.
through your Six Foot Under podcast, that platform, how has that allowed you to engage with your fan base on a different level than say, you know, you going, you know, doing something like this because they get an opportunity to see you in a totally different light than what they've ever seen you before.
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Chapter 6: Who does The Undertaker consider his favorite opponents?
Right. And I think that contributed to the success of it. Correct. But I think with the podcast and getting out there and hearing some of the stories that I've had with some of the guys and Truth be told, I don't like talking about wrestling. You like talking about, so what are you, fishing, hunting? What do you like? No, all that's good. Okay.
But as far as like with a podcast, like the best podcast episodes are when I got with my boys and we're talking about what we did after wrestling. After, okay. Right? Like that's what everybody wants to see. Right. You can go on YouTube and watch. All the wrestling matches you want. Right. But what happened with me and the Godfather in a bar down the street. Right.
You know, that's kind of what I think kind of piques these people's, you know, their interest now. They get plenty of wrestling. They want the juice. As a older wrestler that doesn't do it anymore, you adopted that you're helping and bringing along this generation of wrestlers. Ocho and I, we play football, and a lot of times we try to give back.
We try to mentor the younger guys and try to tell them what to expect, how to go about their business. Be professional. Be yourself, but be professional. Just remember one thing. the football team is a team. It's not always going to be about you.
Chapter 7: What is the significance of signature moves in wrestling?
What is it for the best interest of the football team and how can we all win, not just you? Is that something, some things that you try to share with these younger generations? Yeah, absolutely. Because as a talent, if you're fortunate enough to get on that wheel and then have that run, right? And when I say run, something that's going on with like Roman Reigns right now, he's on a
incredible run, Cody Rhodes, all these guys are on a run. But it's not necessarily always going to be like that. We always use it as an analogy, the wheel, right? So you're here, that wheel's moving, right? So there's a good chance, not necessarily all the time, but there's a good chance that it's going to end up down here.
And you have to be able to, one, you have to figure out, okay, what do I need to do to get back up there? And two, while I'm on my way, how can I help the product? How can I help the product? Because if the product gets better, that's going to give everybody more opportunities. So you've got to roll with it. You can never be content in this business. As soon as you're content, you're done.
Because there's always somebody coming along that's younger, faster, stronger, and more hungry. But as veterans, you have to... is that all right it's my it's my time now it's not embrace it but knowing that it might be someone else's time later let me help them have to do with my time come back again i'll be ready yeah yeah and that's that that's the hard part is when
That climb up, man, that climb up is awesome. You feel it, right? You know it, and then you get there. For you guys, you get that ring, right? You try to stay there as long as you possibly can. Absolutely. You scratch and claw, and you hang on to it. Yeah, it's important for the veterans to help those guys.
You know what, being a veteran, helping some of the young fighters now that are up and coming, giving them the knowledge on what it takes to be great, what it takes to be consistent, having that structure, having that discipline. Everyone here is a fan of wrestling.
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Chapter 8: How does The Undertaker feel about the storytelling aspect of wrestling?
Everyone here has a specific wrestler that they like and enjoy watching today. So for you, in today's wrestling landscape, who is your favorite wrestler to watch?
Oh, man. I tell you, because he's such an old school guy, probably won't be received real well, but I love Gunther.
Okay.
I do. I absolutely... There's no flash. There's no flash. What you get is somebody going in there, and he's going to stomp your guts out. Right. He's going to chop you up, and he's going to beat you up. Yeah. And, you know, he ain't flying around doing a bunch of silly stuff. He's in there, and you, I mean, he's just a serious character, and he's a throwback.
Yeah.
He's a throwback to a different generation. Okay. And it just lets you know that, you know, what is old can be new again. Yeah.
Yeah.
Is there anybody that in today's wrestling reminds you of Taker? No. No. No. No, not really. I mean, you know, there was ā Bray Wyatt was coming along before he ā you know, before his unfortunate demise. But it ā you know, he had that aura, that kind of ā otherworldly type character.
Obviously, it's a shame what happened with Bray because I think he'd only begin to scratch the surface of how great he was going to be. You've taken a behind-the-scenes role, if I'm not mistaken, with AAA, which is, if I'm not mistaken, WWE purchased it. Right. So what does your role entail with AAA? So... I don't talk about it a whole lot, but I'm down there in a creative role. Okay.
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