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Scrolling with Hayley

Guthrie Kidnapping Case Blows Wide Open - Scrolling w/ Hayley (Ep. 233)

11 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.065 - 20.662 Hayley Caronia

Hello and welcome to Scrolling with Haley. I am Haley Karinia. If you're watching right now on Rumble, welcome. All my homies in the chat, I try to hop in before the show starts sometimes and I did get in there today. I said hello to all my homies. Sometimes if I have enough time, I like to chit chat with everyone. Didn't have that much time today, but... I don't know, it's only Wednesday.

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Maybe tomorrow I'll get here earlier and I'll get to chat with all of you and that'll be fun. So if you wanna do that, you have to do it on Rumble. Rumble.com slash Haley brings you to the Bongina Report channel. That is where you can watch this show in full. So make sure that you are subscribed and make sure that you tell a friend. And if you can't catch us live right now or at noon,

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You can watch whenever you want on Rumble, or you can listen on your favorite podcast platform, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeart, wherever you get your shows, whenever you want. It's available right after this show ends. So again, tell a friend, send the link to a group chat, let the world know about Scrolling with Haley. So what do we have on the show today?

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Well, there's a new suspect in the Nancy Guthrie disappearance, and also another one that they caught released. So we're going to get into the latest details in that story. Also, a little over a week ago, the DOJ released three million pages of documents from the Epstein files. And I haven't covered it. Maybe you've noticed that I haven't covered it.

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And it's because I haven't had enough time to dedicate to read through it. And I never want to come on here and talk about something that I don't know about, haven't seen for myself, haven't dug into myself. So last night I spent eight hours going through the Epstein files. And let me just say, I barely scratched the surface.

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Eight hours is not nearly enough time to get into everything that they have uncovered. And I started by searching pizza. So I'll be diving into a tinfoil hat time segment where Pizzagate meets Epstein. So everyone get ready for that. Put your phones on do not disturb. Scrolling with Haley starts right now.

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Bye.

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All right, so it's day 11 in the search for Savannah Guthrie's missing mom, Nancy Guthrie. Again, just to recap, I know you all, if you've been watching this show, you already know all this stuff. 84 years old, she's been missing since January 31st. She was reported missing on February 1st. We are assuming that she is without her medications that she needs to live. So imagine...

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11 days without those dire medications, the situation is probably not looking very good. Now, TMZ detected activity in the Bitcoin account that was sent in the ransom note, those original ransom notes. Remember, two were sent. One was sent to a local TV station in Tucson, another sent to TMZ. And in that Bitcoin account, TMZ has been following it and looking into it. And there's been activity.

Chapter 2: What new evidence has emerged in the Nancy Guthrie case?

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which is south of Tucson. And that is in connection to this man that authorities have detained and now released. They questioned him for a few hours. They thought that he might have something to do with it, but then found nothing. So they arrested and questioned him. So we'll get into that. But yesterday, right as the show was ending,

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FBI Director Kash Patel released never-before-seen videos and photos retrieved from Nancy Guthrie's ring camera that had been smashed and removed. So we can go through these together. We have this video. This is the alleged suspect up on her ring camera, latex gloves on.

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seemingly covering the Ring camera, trying to cover the Ring camera so he's not on camera, even though that's, you know, doesn't work like that. You can see he's kind of like walking around, wandering around, looking for something. You see this plant there, he picks it up. Now he has a gun.

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I mean it's unclear if this video is chopped up how much time is in between all of these clips because it seems like in one of the photos he doesn't have a backpack on then he comes back and he has a backpack on then he's got a gun so there's a lot to get into here and there are a lot of theories someone in the chat just said it's the brother-in-law he has a dark beard and dark eyebrows listen there are a lot of people with dark hair and dark eyebrows um

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So we don't know for sure. But he picked up that plant from that potter and then he is putting it up to the camera, like kind of like shoving it in the face of the camera a little bit. Again, maybe to conceal what he's doing.

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I was talking to a friend last night who thinks that a key was potentially left in that potted plant and he was picking up the key and then maybe he's trying to get into the home here with a key that was maybe potentially left. I don't know. And Maybe he's just already held the plant, like the plant was already in his hand, and that's why he dropped it once he got in there. I don't know.

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Again, there's a lot of unanswered questions here. So there's a photo of him, and he's not wearing a backpack. And that's odd. So it seems like he went, he was on site and then got a backpack from somewhere. And then he came back with a gun. So he got that from somewhere. And, you know, he comes to the house from this Ring camera footage, or I'm sorry, Nest. I'm saying Ring, but it's Nest.

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This Nest camera footage. And the suspect comes up from the R-Left, but the right side of the house. Is there potentially a getaway car that dropped him off? How did this guy get there? Did he walk? Where was the gun in the backpack? Because he originally came up with nothing. Then it seems like he went back and got these supplies. From where? Again, came up looking for something.

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Did someone leave something for him? Was this staged? Was this planned? Is there any evidence of breaking and entering? Was the key left open? Was the door left open? Again, lots of questions. Was this an inside job? Was it someone that knew the family personally?

Chapter 3: Who is the masked suspect in the surveillance footage?

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Quote, we can't believe we have to say this, but media on scene, please do not order food delivery to a crime scene address. This interferes with an active investigation. Please also respect private property laws. Thank you. And if you read the replies on this post, people were coming for them. Like how dare you blame the reporters for ordering pizza and not securing the crime scene.

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My question is, how did anyone let the pizza guy get that far? And reporters are on scene, they're people, they have to eat. Me personally, anytime I in the past had to cover something, I would always try to eat before the assignment or after. And I had never covered anything for more than maybe three or four hours. So I don't know why you would need to eat in that amount of time.

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You could bring a granola bar, a banana, something like that with you. But maybe they were there all day. I don't know. I don't know what these reporters' assignments are. So I'm wondering how a bunch of journalists, though, let a pizza man walk past them to an active crime scene. Didn't one of you potentially order the pizza or know the pizza was coming?

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If I ordered a pizza to a crime scene and I was standing outside and I saw a pizza delivery guy roll up in a car and leave his car with a box of pizza, I would go up to him and go.

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retrieve the pizza like i don't even know how he got that far from the media on the street without someone being like oh that's the lunch i ordered then i heard reports that someone just like a kind person sent pizza to an independent journalist who was on the ground so it's possible that someone was just trying to be nice and helpful and support independent journalism and the journalist didn't even know that the pizza was coming and that the pizza was for them

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But still, if it's an active crime scene and there are police on the ground, I don't know how secure it can be if a guy just walked all the way up and back and no one stopped him. You would think that if he walked all the way up to the door, I mean, wouldn't cops run after him and try to question him at least? Like, it just seems odd.

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Then in new detail, according to TMZ, a new note was sent, sort of like a new ransom note. Now, again, someone has already been arrested for sending text messages and that guy is in jail, right? He was arrested. But two notes were sent, one to the local station in Tucson and one to TMZ, and that had two separate deadlines.

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Remember, they were demanding $6 million or something crazy, and those deadlines have both passed. Now, this morning, TMZ said that a note said this just before 5 a.m. Pacific time, so very, very early this morning. The sender claims that they have tried to unsuccessfully reach Savannah Guthrie's brother, Cameron, and her sister, Annie, by text and email.

1289.187 - 1313.04 Hayley Caronia

Again, if the family has already dealt with a fake scammer, ransom texter, why would they take this person seriously? I'm just spitballing here, but if I was going through this, this was my family, and law enforcement is probably telling them, hey, beware of people glomming on and scamming you, I don't know why Cameron and Annie would respond to this random text message.

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