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Cavs-Clips Swap Guards, Draymond Slop, Final Trade Deadline Predictions

04 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

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Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks Podcast presented by FanDuel. It's Wednesday, February 4th, 2026. I'm J.E. Skeets, back in the Classic Factory, and alongside me, as always, Tass Mellis. We're hanging in, everybody. Next to him, it's my top shot hot boy, Trey Kirby.

Chapter 2: What are the implications of the James Harden trade?

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His feet obviously aren't right. Now, they're maybe banking on their new... Medical staff, I shouldn't call them new, but their medical staff that's been able to turn Kawhi Leonard into a new person. Yeah, I don't know if they're just somehow they've got everything about Darius Garland's toes and think they can do that. But that has to be a part of it.

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What do you guys feel like the Cavs ceiling is here going into this postseason? And has it changed since getting James Harden? I feel it is. It's higher for me. It should be higher because, again, last year, if there's a healthy Darius Garland, which transforms into a healthy James Harden this year, they're better. They're better. They're better than what they did against the Pacers.

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They just needed somebody. They needed somebody, and Harden will be there playing. We have now two of the most, like, I'll believe it when I see it, guys on the same team together. Now, in Donovan Mitchell, can you go to the conference finals? And James Harden, can you obviously get there? I get it.

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I understand carrying the workload a little bit for Donovan Mitchell, who was banged up by the time they even got to the postseason last year after doing a lot of heavy lifting and then trying to do even more in the postseason. I get where Harden will fit there and help, but I am not going to sit here and say, oh, they are going all the way. Are you kidding me? Jesus, no way.

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Unless there's more moves to be made, unless this clicks like no one can believe. This is good. I get it. I understand it. Especially the part where just Garland, they could not have any confidence in him moving forward here and didn't maybe like what they saw even in time. So about the same, I guess, is my answer, which is good.

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Like they're disappointing this season, but they've turned it around here recently as they sort of climb back up the Eastern Conference standings. But they're aiming, obviously, for a conference final to their finals. But I think they'll still fall short as currently constructed. Yeah, but I think they would have fell in short anyways.

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Like, we don't see a list of Darius Garland's playoff failings because he doesn't have any success to compare it to. At least James Harden has made conference finals often in his career. Get out of the second round challenge for Donovan Mitchell. And I think that is what their ceiling probably is, is a conference finals appearance.

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Garland has been probably the worst player on the Cavs from a high minutes perspective, like guys that played over 500 minutes. They're just brutal when he's on. He doesn't have the same quickness he used to. He can't defend. Harden's not a good defender, but at least he's tall. He's taller than Garland is.

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He's much bigger.

Chapter 3: How does the trade impact the Cavaliers' playoff chances?

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He's so small that he needs to be a fast guy to get around, but he is 10 years younger than Harden. They do maintain cap flexibility the same way they were planning going forward. I think they'll keep Zubats. A combination of Garland and Zubats, that works. We've seen how good Biggs can be playing with Darius Garland. He made Mobley better. He made Allen better.

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Harden did the same for Zubats, and I think he can have the same... I think Garland can have the same effect there. He just needs to be healthy, and he needs to play. And I don't know. Maybe a fresh start is good for him. There was some tension, it feels like, between him and Donovan Mitchell. You know, Garland was there first. He became an all-star. Donovan Mitchell came to the team.

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It was instantly his team, and Garland had to figure out how to fit in. Now... Garland is kind of in the same spot right now, right? He's going to the Clippers where Kawhi Leonard is their number one option. They've got some guys that are established there. He's got to fit in where he can. But long term, this can be his team to run the offense.

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And he is a good offensive player when he's on the court. They just got to build smart around him. They got to have a big guard next to him to be able to guard people. That's what we saw with the Cavs. It just wasn't tenable having two little guys out there. So maybe that's good news for a Tass Mellis favorite, Chris Dunn, sticking around in L.A. as well.

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I just think this is a pretty smart move for the Clippers to actually get a little bit younger, like moving off of Harden. There's not going to be a lot better players you're going to get than Darius Garland. A guy who's got a lot of question marks and is currently injured. Totally agree. They need to go in a different direction at some point. Hopefully he just gets healthy.

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And they just are banking on their medical staff to be able to do that. Here come the plates. It's such an odd word to hear. Plates inserted in shoes. You don't want plates on your feet. You don't. Yeah. No. But literally, hold on. The plates are installed into the foam of the shoe, right? Like they're just these little... I don't know. Maybe they're just new orthotics for him.

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You know, these guys have custom shoes.

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Yeah, I think they're in the midsole. It's just a stability device. That's all it is. I just picture him, like, hooping in the Forrest Gump leg braces now when he's in plates and stuff like that. I am interested. Breaking off in the fourth quarter. Now, I can't help but look at the bucks.

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All the money coming, not the Milwaukee Bucks, the dollars coming in for the Cleveland Cavaliers with James Harden there because he has taken discounts in the past, if I'm not mistaken. He's shortened deals, the deal that he signed with the Clippers. Either way, it's just a player option, as we said, for next year.

Chapter 4: What are the final trade deadline predictions?

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Even if he only is replacing Luka Garza off the bench, he's a better version of Luka Garza, though I was laughing that Luka Garza somehow has better rim protection numbers than Nikola Vucevic. If you shoot at the rim, 67% of the time, you're scoring if it's Garza, but 68% of the time, you're scoring if it's Vucevic. It's a guaranteed basket.

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Those are high numbers.

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Yeah, they are. Basically the worst numbers in the league. I'm sure Nurkic is up there too. You know, guys that are seven footers that actually can't jump. But this is the best team that Vooch is ever going to play for. He can't switch. He can't defend the rim, but he can shoot threes. And he's got feel. He can catch the ball at the top of the key and swing it to the other side.

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He can beat a guy inside if there's a switch. He's got nice touch. He's got nice hook shots. He rebounds. I think Keita will still be the center of choice for the Celtics just because of his switchiness and the athleticism that he brings, the rim runs that he brings that draw eyes. So I think this is good for the Celtics. Simons was not a long-term piece for them. Got them a little bit cheaper.

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They still have to make another move if they really want to do their apron dance. That would cost them Sam Hauser, basically, which kind of is an important player for the Celtics. But if they're assuming Tatum's going to come back, all good. Yeah, I'm looking forward to see Vooch out there shooting threes. That's it's going to be natural. They're going to score a lot of points.

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I guess they're going to try and outscore teams strictly because of that, because if he's out there on the floor, they're going to give up points. There's no doubt. But I called him a poor man's Al Horford yesterday in part because. He's going to this Boston situation that is the best team that he's played on.

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And Al Horford, after playing an extremely long time with the Atlanta Hawks, he went to Boston for one tenure, then went back there and absolutely loved playing there, loved being in that organization, loved being in that arena.

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Can those fans, can that organization get Vooch to just try just a little bit harder on the defensive end just to get a little bit more out of him, just a little bit more out of him because they're obviously going to cover for him. At all times. They have to. They are going to have to. That's their defensive mindset, and they're good at that. I mean, that's what they are good at.

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Brown and Derek White, they're all going to have to do that. And I just want to see if he falls in love with Boston the way Al Horford did, and maybe late in his career, just playing, you know.

Chapter 5: What are the implications of Giannis trading rumors?

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He's only 25 years old. He's young. Yeah. And, I mean, like, positionally, he's a forward. Giannis would be a forward for that team. I think, like, Giannis, Julius Randle, and Rudy Gobert is a pretty wonky combination. Yeah. At your 3-4-5, so... Perhaps Randall has to be shipped somewhere else that gets some sort of trade or some sort of draft picks back and then they can do McDaniels plus picks.

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I don't know. It's strange, though, to see Milwaukee or Minnesota in the lead for Giannis, quote unquote. Not knowing who they would trade, except for that they would potentially throw McDaniels in there. Yeah. Fine. It is odd. And then we get, like, conflicting reports, whether they're true or not. Like, Giannis doesn't want to go to a team where he's sort of not the alpha, right?

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Or it's not his team, so to speak. Where, if you're going to Minnesota... I don't buy that. You know, it's more Ant's team, and then he's alongside with them.

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Chapter 6: How do the trade predictions shape the upcoming deadline?

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I don't really buy that. You don't buy that? Yeah, but it's also Giannis' team, his franchise that the guy comes and joins. But he won a ship. I'm not saying I believe it either. Yeah, I'm not with it. I think he's totally fine with it. I think Julius Randle would have to be part of the deal because he's 30 million bucks. You know, Yanis does make $54 million.

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One question I do have with Yanis leading into the trade deadline is his Instagram posts. I didn't really get this one. I mean, it seems like he's forcing this play on words list, like something I would do here. He said, no pencil, but I'm still drawing all the attention. I don't like it.

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It's a forced job.

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Yanis has changed, man.

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He's changed.

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He's been in America too long. He carries himself like a superstar more so than he used to. He used to be like, smoothies.

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He's not like having sex with my wife.

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And now he's like doing cryptic Instagram posts. That's what I mean by he's been an American superstar for too long. Hey, listen, he still talks about having sex with his wife. I wouldn't say he's been in America too long. I think he's definitely more like a superstar. He's letting himself go. You know, with the thumbs down to his fans, he's starting to say, I'm done kind of thing.

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More so like he's just extremely open about what he wants here this year. More so than ever. That's for sure. Bold trade deadline prediction as we get close to basically 24 hours left on the clock. I guess 24 plus. What do you got? Yeah, I guess we got a running clock behind us. 28 hours.

Chapter 7: What are the highlights from the latest NBA games?

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Yeah, it's a little bit off. That's accurate. Close enough. But it's a little bit off. Oh, the second. What, the second's literally the second?

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I just said it's a little bit off.

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Less than a minute off, maybe. Yeah. Anyway, do you have a bold trade deadline prediction? Call your shot. I'm going to be just realistic here. I don't think Michael Porter Jr. is getting moved. Okay. It seems like it would be a good time to move on from Michael Porter Jr. This team is 3-17 in their last 20. Why not get the most that you can get from Michael Porter Jr. in return?

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Because he is balling this year.

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Chapter 8: Who are the standout players in the current All-Star rosters?

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But he is a guy who could still be had in the offseason. So there's that possibility, but this team is bad. But as I was looking at the Michael Porter Jr. possibility of him being moved, you look up and down the Nets roster, there's guys to be had. There's been lots of talk about the Raptors and getting De'Ron Sharp. There's Cam Johnson coming off the bench. Is it $6 million?

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That's a tiny contract. Cam Johnson? Cam Johnson, Cam Thomas.

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Yeah.

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Sorry. I've got, yeah, Cam Thomas coming off the bench, being a sixth man, just a score. Yeah, I remember him. If you're looking for that. Yeah, people forget that. Anyway, I don't think Michael Porter Jr. is going anywhere, unfortunately. You know, you can start to talk yourself into Michael Porter Jr. helping out good teams.

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Yeah.

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Easily. Yeah, he won a title. Yeah, he did win a title. Especially after.

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We'll get to Colin Gillespie later. He also won a title.

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The Pistons move, the Pistons after they got Kevin Herter, it felt like, okay, maybe they're not in the Michael Porter Jr., running here anymore, at least leading up to the deadline. What about you? What do you got? Okay, I don't know if this one's a bold one. Heat are going to throw everything into a trade to try and get Giannis. They are really struggling. 9-10 in 2026.

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They've lost to Orlando, Chicago, and the Hawks last night, all in the last two weeks. They need a shot in the arm. And they've been trying to get a star for... Feels like since they got Jimmy Butler and they haven't been able to pull it off. So I think they will make the best offer for Giannis at the deadline. We'll see if the Bucs take it.

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