No Dunks
Thunder Draw Even With Spurs, All-Rookie Squads, Fantasy Booking LeBron's Final Team
21 May 2026
Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
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He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move. And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off. And that was the last time I saw him.
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Chapter 2: How did Shea Gildas Alexander perform in Game 2?
Harper. That was sort of a pun, but not really a pun. We wondered, can they win without Jalen Williams? And we thought, no, not really. But now, with the development of A.J. Mitchell into his fantastic playoffs, with Jared McCain playing really well, I thought Cason Wallace was so good in this game, splashing four threes. They can overcome that. The Spurs, can they overcome...
One of those guys, I suppose, but this is scary. I mean, that's really scary, just period. Just even losing one of those two guys. Well, I mean, heading into the series, I was one of the people saying, I don't think they can beat the Spurs without a healthy J-Dub. I sort of stand by that. But now you're telling me that maybe Fox and Dylan Harper aren't playing? Okay, that changes the equation.
The fairness of a matchup here in a series, so...
Chapter 3: What role did Isaiah Hartenstein play in the game?
Yeah, could they win without J-Dub if those two guys are limited or not playing? Absolutely, because I think it's more of a significant drop-off for the Spurs having two of their best guards gone here. Yeah, easily. I mean, missing Harper and Fox is way worse than missing Jalen Williams because Jordan McLaughlin comes in and he shot the ball fine last night, two for three, cool. But...
It's Jordan McLaughlin, and he was giving it back on the defensive end as well. Harrison Barnes is another guy that got some more time. These are guys that are at the end of their career. Meanwhile, the Thunder, if they want, they can try Aaron Wiggins. He hasn't been very good in the playoffs, but I've seen that guy have a 40-point game. There's nothing like that on the bench for San Antonio.
So Fox needs to come back. I guess it may be encouraging that Harper was trying to get back on the court. He walked back off. The trainers are like, nah, man, you can't play. Go sit back down. So that's tough. They just don't have enough guys if they are missing two of their lead guards because you can see it's โ I don't know if it's wearing on Castle.
Like to me, he's not getting tired, but he's turning the ball over way too much. 20 turnovers through two games. That's the most ever in consecutive playoff games. He had nine in game two last night, and Oklahoma City had 10 total. Some of these are bonehead passes where he's just like โ lobbing it across the lane or throwing a bullet pass with no touch on it.
I thought even passes he's completing, like this was a five-point game. He drives baseline. Great screen by Wemby. Gets Devin Vassell a wide-open three in the corner, but Castle throws it almost two feet off target. Vassell has to reach over. He chucks it up, bricks it off the top corner of the backboard. It gets its way back to Castle, and he throws a pass to nobody.
So he's been a little scattershot, and I think it's just because The style of play that he likes to be strong, play in traffic, that's a problem against the Thunder team. And just the responsibility that he has to have to create the majority of the shots out there, it's asking a little too much from him against a team like OKC. Hopefully one of those guys has to come back.
Yeah, it's got to be Fox. Yeah, it has to be Fox. It's got to be Fox.
You've got to tough it up. And there was a feel that he was coming back even for game two. It was a feeling anyway. Yeah, and maybe he didn't come back for game two because they won game one. Yeah, maybe. We saw that with OG in the last series. Or at least we thought that was the case.
So, yeah, I'm with you that they... Look, and if they come back, don't they... Castles just needs to be sharper and more secure with the ball. I mean, whether those guys are playing or not. It is funny. The guy has 20 turnovers through two games. He's been awesome. He has been really good.
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Chapter 4: How are injuries impacting the Spurs' strategy?
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Chapter 5: What news do the guys share about the San Antonio Spurs?
Carl Lane maybe is who you're thinking of. Yeah. So that's the fourth one that they have. They have four referees listed. I was thinking of Carl Lane. Yeah, I was thinking of Carl Lane. So Carl was on the floor? Yes, it's Carl Lane. Because then they have four referees on the floor. Maybe Ed Malloy was the alternate. That makes more sense because I don't remember seeing him. Yeah, okay.
We figured it out. We cracked the case. Why don't they list who's the alternate? Hey, we got some news here, JD. You're going to like this news, buddy. San Antonio Spurs are returning to Paris for a regular season game in 2027. Ooh la la.
The NBA announced yesterday that the Spurs will face the Pelicans in Paris, where JD and I went to see the Spurs play the Pacers two games, and Manchester, England, JD, on January 14th and 17th. This is next season. So Spurs, Pelicans in Paris and Manchester, England. First time there. Should we book our tickets now? I want to say yes, but fuel is so high right now.
Let's wait. Let's wait.
Chapter 6: What are the key takeaways from the NBA All-Rookie Teams announcement?
You want to take a boat? Well, we're taking the channel in between Paris to Manchester. Okay. Taking a plane. We're going by train. Wow. Fly to Paris. We could do a show. We could do a show on the train. Has it ever been done? On a train? Probably. Podcast on a train, yes. NBA podcast on a train? No. I don't think so. Never. Never. Never. We're doing it. All right, those are our notes.
Let's take a break. When we come back, all rookie teams and some LeBron fantasy booking. This show is brought to you by FanDuel. NBA fans, this is your reminder to check in daily with no dunks and also with FanDuel. Because every day during the playoffs, FanDuel is serving up a happy hour. We're talking special drops you won't want to miss. Profit boosts to bonus bets. And more. The best part?
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Play your game. Play your game. Carl Lane. Carl Lane. Play your game, Carl Lane. Let's make a t-shirt that says that. We got some news! We're still doing awards. What the fuck are they doing Coach of the Year? What is going on? Why aren't we handing out Coach of the Year? Is it all because of, you know who, Joe Mazzulla? He said he hates it, yeah.
Yeah, so what do they, they have to convince him not to trash it when they hand it to him? Anyway, the NBA has announced the 2025-26 NBA All-Rookie Team's first team in alphabetical order. League likes to do it that way, you know? Cedric Coward of the Grizzlies, Vijay Edgecombe of the 76ers, Cooper Flagg on the Mavs, Dylan Harper of the Spurs, and Khan Kanipal of the Hornets.
Flagg, Kanipal, and Edgecombe, unanimous first-team selections. Harper got a whole lot of first-place votes, and then that fifth guy was Cedric Coward getting in there. With enough points, the second team, all rooks in alphabetical order.
We got Ace Bailey of the Jazz, Jeremiah Fears of the Pelicans, Colin Murray-Boyles of the Raptors, Maxime Reynaud of the Kings, and Derek Queen, also of the Pelicans. So voters selected five players to the first team and five players to the second team. Regardless of position, players received two points for each first team vote and one point for each second team vote.
Any takeaways from these two all-rookie teams? They only picked the five for the first team because they're in the first half of the alphabet. That's why they wanted to get their queen and their queen should have been in there because his name is queen. They couldn't put him in there over Dylan Harper. Well, you know, no, I'm saying those queens should have been on the first team.
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Chapter 7: How are the guys fantasy booking LeBron's final team?
No, it's fine.
I mean, I thought so for a while. I did have him for a while, but no, it was just a dumb joke.
Okay.
If you're going to do a dumb joke, just read an ad really, really slowly and quietly. That was Zach Galifianakis from This is a Gardening Show. I finished it. Did it get better? No, I thought it started the test. Look, it's fine. It's a good show, but it's just not what I expected going into it. It's obviously very silly. It's half silly, half gardening.
And he's like talking to kids nonstop in it.
Yeah.
And there's funny moments. And then they get the heck out of there and then he talks to the expert. I will say the funniest was the farmer, the old guy, 70-year-old farmer with corn, the corn episode. Did you watch that one? Of course I watched them all.
Well, you must have liked the compost one. Yeah, for sure.
Season finale, composting. Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's interesting. I don't know how interesting composting can be, but that's why they're 15 minutes and done. It's broken up. Seven minutes of kids, essentially. Funny part. And then seven minutes of an expert. They fly by. They're quick. A lot of Canada in there because he lives in Canada. Here's the problem.
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Chapter 8: What are the predictions for the upcoming Eastern Conference Finals?
I thought Queen could have had a chance because he had some high moments early in the season. But my main takeaway is that like... These are 10 good rookies.
Yes.
The second team here is like on par with the first team from last year. So good stuff. That's a great point. And that first team, by God, I mean. Oh, yeah. I mean, in theory, we're looking at, I don't know. I guess I'm projecting here, but for all NBA like guys, I don't think is a stretch with Knipple, Harper, Flagg and Edgecombe.
At least three, maybe four as we move on, and then who knows with Cedric Howard. He's great, too. So, yeah, hell of a rookie squad here this year. Okay, let's get to a question that we had to cut from yesterday's Beach Step-In because we wanted to make it its own segment, and it's from Bogey in Sweden.
If next season is LeBron's last and he doesn't re-sign with the Lakers, what team would you most like to see him join? Disregard cap space and realism.
fantasize freely for me it's probably the hawks i just think he'd be a great influence for the young players like kaminga and risashe to get to work alongside him and see his work ethic off the court just a small hypothetical i thought could be fun much love to you guys what you do i listen to the pod every day love from sweden we love this this is a fun question
fantasize freely guys that's what we're gonna do here there's no rules don't worry about cap space you nerds we're putting LeBron wherever we want okay we're gonna make it into a draft though we'll move with some pace here don't worry but we're gonna draft teams that we want to see LeBron play hypothetically is last season I guess or last stint in the NBA to decide who goes first I got a trivia question for you guys this is how we always do it now LeBron made his first NBA finals in just his fourth NBA season okay
Cavaliers got swept by Tim Duncan Spurs. They were clearly outclassed. LeBron had a funny team going up against the mighty Spurs back then. And that is our trivia question. LeBron and nine other guys on the Cavs played in Game 1's 85-76 loss. I wanted to make note of that. That was Game 1. 85-76. Good game. What a great game.
Can you name the nine Cleveland Cavaliers to play in that Game 1 of the 07 Finals with LeBron? So we'll go back and forth. Tash, you're shaking your head. We're going to start with you. I'm shaking my head because I know the depth of them, but I know I'm going to screw up even the first one. No, no, Tess. Okay. Okay, come on. The big Z. There you go, Tess. It's a Drew Nisselgoss.
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