No Jumper
OG Kunta on His Beef with Gumby, Texas vs LA Hoover Drama, Slapping 607 Unc & More
23 Mar 2026
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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
no jumper coolest podcast in the world and today we're bringing y'all something very very important and special on behalf of texas los angeles and the whole hoover community og kunta is in the building what's good what's good man it's great to be in the building uh my guy i'm happy to be here man this is gonna be a good one. We got a lot of history to go through and much more.
Right, right, right.
And introduce us to your partner here, too.
Okay, well, you already know, man, this is one of the hardest working dudes in Texas, man, period. I'm talking about Jack of all trades, master of none.
I mean, this CEO Hockley himself, Mr. CEO Hockley, a good brother, man, powerful brother, you know, got some initiative in the community, you know what I'm saying, showing philanthropy, you know, just basically showing entrepreneurship and, you know, financial independence. Facts, man, you know.
Yeah, we're happy to have you here. So, okay, just to get into it, though, tell me a little bit about your upbringing and what life was like before the modern era that we're going to spend a lot of time talking about here.
Okay, well, shit. My life really was simple, man. I grew up in Fort Worth, you know what I'm saying? And Fort Worth, you know, for a long period of time has been infested with gangs. You know what I'm saying? Me, myself being, you know, a member of the Fort Worth community, I also find myself involved into the gangs, you know what I'm saying? You know, and the politics that was going on.
So after 35, 36 years, you know, of my life, being on the streets, you know, not all of it as an active, you know what I'm saying, gang member, because that's another thing, you know, that I really want to talk about, you know, is about the difference in the politics, you know, because everybody seemed to keep making that a problem.
And it's really not a problem because politics is different everywhere. You know, we got the United States, but ain't no state got the same laws.
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Chapter 2: What was OG Kunta's upbringing like in Fort Worth?
Right.
You know what I'm saying? And there's no disrespect to that, you know, because I understand, you know, people are where they come from. And, you know, some people are trapped in that type of thought.
Right.
But see, what freed us from it? was that we began to get locked up. Me and this brother, we did time together. Me and this brother here, we did time together. Me and him, we the same thing. But as you can see, we not. We not the same thing.
How can I see that though?
Yeah, because I'm a media person now.
And he isn't. That's the best way to say it.
For sure. But that wasn't an option during your youth. The immediate personality was a lot more different.
Yeah, it was a lot more different. You got to get an internship at the local TV station or something. Nah, you finna go down through that. You got to be live on the scene.
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Chapter 3: How did gang culture influence Texas compared to California?
Uh-huh. So when I got on the internet, it was never about beefing. It was about setting the record straight. Hoover is Hoover, no matter where you at. Because see, if we get into it with anybody, they're not going to say, oh, check and see if you're ACG or GC.
Right.
So we got to start making it make sense.
Okay, so for the people out there, I just want to spell it out so they understand, is that basically at a certain point, however many years ago, the Hoovers in L.A. decided this, we ain't Crips anymore, we're criminals, and they stopped saying Hoover Gangster Crip, and it turns into Hoover Criminal Gang, right? ACG?
No, it's... And then, you know, I really don't, you know, I'm not one of these guys that want to put no Crip information over the internet.
Right.
But I will say this, it wasn't like that. It's been periods and times where Hoover has turned his face in a different direction.
Okay.
You know, because see, Hoover at one point, you know, still is to this day, it is associated with Crip. Right. Five Deuce, my said, associates with the whole Crip cause.
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Chapter 4: What is the significance of the Hoover identity in this discussion?
So he get mad and in his sense of being vengeful or a sense of revenge, he started a smear campaign on Fort Worth. You know, like the dirty reporter that founds out that, you know, the president's wife ain't got on no drugs. You know what I'm saying? So they finna go in there, you know, he finna go in there and find out, hey man, y'all ain't got on no drugs. He inspires to be you.
I don't know how you, where you from, Canada?
New Hampshire. New Hampshire. Right outside Boston. Yeah, I don't even know where that's at. I can't even spell that. Very few people do.
You are white people from. So how does a person like yourself inspire somebody from a plantation town in Texas? I don't know, but he's inspired.
I think everybody want to be a YouTuber these days.
No, this ain't YouTube. He want to be Adam 22, gang man. Really? He wants gang members.
Okay.
Yeah. So he's not from a hood. He's not involved with that from birth or anything.
Man, this dude is square as a pool table. He's inspired by you. Square as a pool table.
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Chapter 5: What does OG Kunta say about the next generation's choices?
So here I am as a real hoover reaching my hand down to him like, homie, come on out of there. You can't stand out on that stupid shit because you're supposed to be a spokesman for Hoover. So what are we going to do? Are we going to keep teaching the next generation to crash out? Or are we going to start telling them, hey, man, we got to be men and let's get to a bag.
Let's always create an alternative where it's successful and we win.
No, I respect that for sure. But so would you say that 607 Unc is still a valid Hoover from your perspective? Or was all these experiences kind of salary on them?
You hear me call him Charmin because I don't know what the dude is, man. That dude done said about 13 sets. He'll say five. On GDBD, Vice Martin. Yeah, right.
Chapter 6: How does OG Kunta view 607 Unc's status as a Hoover?
Come on, gang. On GDBD. I mean, you know, no disrespect to my home, boys and vice lords, none of the gangs and disciples. I know a lot of them guys. But yeah, Unc, man, you don't know what he is. He told me personally that he was Hoover. I will say that.
He does have a tattoo on him.
Yeah, he said that. He personally told me that.
Is he allowed to do interviews up here with other guests other than you?
Chapter 7: What are the implications of Krip Mac's forehead tattoo?
I mean, if he wanted to, I would be open to having the conversation with him.
Okay, but right now it's kind of he don't know yet.
uh i mean he did after we did that one interview he kind of pitched me on an idea of him doing a lot more content on here i'm not 100 sure how that would work right he was talking about doing a weekly podcast i don't know if the audience has the appetite for that yeah right you know i'm thinking maybe you know definitely down to do more content with them but weekly is a lot you're gonna get is he gonna have some of the other people that work up here like uh is he away from that access
Definitely.
Because of his situations.
Definitely he needs to be supervised if he's going to be anywhere near Munchie B. Let's say that. Or Munchie B's homies, specifically. That could be weird. That could be weird. That could definitely get strange. So I don't know. But okay, what about, I mentioned that Krip Mac was here the other day. He's got that tattoo on his forehead.
Obviously that forehead tattoo is meant for his enemies within Los Angeles. Something tells me that you probably feel a way about it too.
I do. And I'm going to call this out to the forefront. Hey, I'm a real Hoover. So I ain't going to never be cool with nobody that got Hoover killer on their forehead. Now, I'm not his enemy. You hear me? But you saying, but by you having, you know, my set on your name with a slur against it, talking about you a killer hoover, nah, I'm not cool with that. That could actually get you punched down.
I mean, you know, that could get you beat up, real life. And now I'm not ducking no face either. You know what I'm saying? So when you got that type of tattoo, you gotta stand on that. So I sock cuz out for having that tattoo. Straight up. Like don't do that. Don't ever come around me with no shit. Like, cause I ain't, I don't even know. I don't even know if he's set. You see what I'm saying?
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Chapter 8: How does the podcast wrap up the discussion on Texas gang culture?
because we don't do that in Texas. You see what I'm saying? So how they doing it down here, we don't understand that. But it's ultimate disrespect though. It's ultimate disrespect for a person to do that. I mean, I would advise him, he probably want to do something about that.
Because I mean, if you're going to be an international icon, homie, you might want to take that dumb shit up off your forehead, homie, because you got yourself looking real goofy. Now you got yourself looking goofy, bro, because there are people who are not from California that are Hoover, and we ain't never did nothing to you, Crip, man.
So why would you have something on your head to say you're going to kill us? How you gonna turn us into your enemies and you ain't even never met us?
That is the weird thing is like knowing that if I were to go out of state with Krip Mac, that somebody could want to do something to him that has never seen him before, that doesn't have anything to do with him. But just because of that tattoo, it could be if he sees the wrong guy.
Coming to Texas.
Coming to Texas.
Texas would be an example, yeah. You opened up the question and the tattoo don't come with a description. You gave a description, like it's got a caution warning on the side of it, like a cigarette. Yeah, you gave it a whole description saying that it means his enemies from here. Yeah, the tattoo don't have no description on it.
No, and it don't have no California enemies, nothing. You just said Hoover. You don't got on there, California, wrote on the side of that, Hoover. And it's not just Hoovers from California. So when you put that type of shit on the airwaves, homie, you gotta be ready to work that. Like, hey, on some real inside shit, yeah, you know, friendly fade. Friendly fade. No, friendly fade. Really.
Like, we can get up, you know, just set that shit up.
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