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Chapter 1: What is the focus of the No Laying Up podcast episode?
Be the right club. Be the right club today. That's better than most. How about him? That is better than most.
Better than most!
Expect anything different? Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up Podcast. Solly here, third iteration. All we do is drafts these days. We are going to be drafting the best U.S. Opens of all time. We are going to go clockwise around here. New background, new house. Hello, pie man. How are you?
hello guys yeah you know what i won the pga draft and i just instantly moved into a new house uh newfound celebrity just a new lifestyle man and it's it's great to be called into the press center now that this next major's come around unlikely victory but uh you know i'm enjoying my new life big radius here hello big hi guys excited to be back i missed the pga draft you know that was killing me so i'm i'm back and i'm looking to take this one what would you have taken with the number one pick do you know
I wasn't prepared to answer that question. I kind of like them all, Deej. Not on the agenda. I celebrate their entire collection, their entire catalog. Neil Schuster is here. Hello, Neil. Hola, Toros. Good to be back in the saddle. These mock drafts. I'm going to be Todd McShay here pretty soon, or Mel Kiper. Todd, Todd, Todd, Todd. Great agility. Ready to go today. These aren't mocks, Neil.
I know. It's a lot of reps, though. You know, a lot of good reps. This is good.
glad to be here fresh off all my momentum in the PGA draft and uh did you win honestly no I know I didn't win but I didn't finish last okay yeah yeah uh yeah wiki yellow and uh indeed you know congrats on the new place hopefully you can you can earn an EJ Marshall platter for your backyard oh it's on its way man we got some work to do but uh yeah I think we got big pigs ahead
A lot to discuss here. A lot goes into a U.S. Open. We know you got to drive it. You got to drive it long. You got to drive it straight. As of today, as of today of the publish of this episode, Titleist's new tour-proven GTS drivers are officially in golf shops worldwide. Guys, I am putting...
all the stuff any equity i have remaining uh to pump you know to to celebrate golf equipment is going into the gts driver is the greatest driver ever hit uh i think you guys might be able to attest to some of this at torresauce i don't know have you guys ever seen me drive it it's unfortunate i hated it the guy was swinging so free it's not good people
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Chapter 2: How do the hosts draft the best US Opens of all time?
I know. I'm trying to think of the record equivalent. It would be like if the producer wasn't going to make it there, if they're using some guitar that only had three strings on it or something. Yeah, the guy almost ran out of golf balls. It's crazy. God, I hope the judges don't factor any almost ran out of golf balls into the judging here. They won't be listening, Randy. It'll just be the list.
Yeah. Randy's just honking him on message boards where he's sitting with his weird-ass collection. Why don't you run through your master's picks again? Dark, twisted fantasy. So good. I regrettably am going to have to simp here as well. It wasn't even on my board. Oh, gross. Unbelievable. U.S. Open. The last 18 hole U.S. Open playoff that we'll ever see.
i literally had tori 2008 for the simps crossed off on my list thank you i'm glad you left it for me as a title winner of one of these things and uh you shockingly shockingly finishing last uh and one i will take it uh it was one of the great us opens iconic us open the putt on 18 the putt on 18 on saturday
is the loudest i've ever heard a golf course ever that's not even including like the prior hole where he chips in on 17 and sends everybody into complete mayhem the eagle putt on saturday uh into the into finishing it off on sunday and and then the monday playoff with rocco media which went an extra hole as well as 91 hole tournament for it looked like it was going to be the last us open he ever won oh yeah it was on a broken leg
that overshadows the tory pines aspect of this tournament which which was a factor in in in you know this it followed i think this is the only reason it fell to number three was because it's tory pines but iconic iconic for a lot of different reasons major number 14 for the cat i can keep going if you want me to but you can't yeah keep going please Lee Westwood right there as well.
DJ Trahan, I don't have to tell you about him. Robert Carlson. Just a murderer's row that you had to put down this year. But just the working man aspect of Rocco. He spoke up, was riding his horse pretty hard. Rocco shows up in a red shirt on Monday to go up against the cat. I knew he'd make it.
i knew he'd make it unbelievable i knew he'd make it i knew he'd make it it's just an incredible incredible us open i'm proud to uh proud to simp into this into this i mean tiger getting his best carry shrug impression on every time he's a bad one he's not hurting god you guys are such sick
i can't believe your face i can't believe you wasted so much on that on that redesign with reese jones the taxpayers sitting here have to justify the greatest player of all time winning on one leg at 91 holes is i don't know it's a little too much carry yeah i don't know it's a reason his leg was is it a fracture in his leg
he needed surgery was he injured he was done for the year after that and you're gonna doubt the seriousness of the injury you know what always blows my mind do you remember the commercial that he did uh when he walked out on water the ea sports commercial they walked out of the water and then like put the golf club in the water and then hits the shot the leg was broken there too
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Chapter 3: What criteria do the hosts use to choose their favorite US Opens?
He would go on to win four. Just an iconic, iconic shot.
commemorated with a marker in the fairway and you know one of the celebrated titans of the game it's a safe play randy it's still safe i mean it's it's pretty great most famous photo in golf history certainly certainly on my list what photo in golf history is more famous than that one uh i think it's got to be that one high peskin your photographer yeah
It's got to be Tiger at the Ryder Cup with the guy with the cigar in the background. That one probably reached more eyeballs. Epic. God, that picture's epic. Brandon, it's a great pick. I don't know how it fell to you. A lot of different ways I could go here. It's always reeling. Not all the Tiger Woods are gone. No, not all the Tiger Woods are gone. Oh, no, that's true. You got one more.
That would be debasing if you took that. I know. You guys are talking. I should take it, but you can't take it. That means in the next two rounds at least. Neil's a simp, though. Neil would do it. I am gonna go to Oakmont, and I'm going to 1962. Wow. This was high on my board, Solly. Jack, Nicholas, and Arnold Palmer in a playoff. Does that sound like something you might be interested in?
Absolutely dueling, they were tied through the entire back nine when Palmer bogeyed the 13th hole. They each parred each of the remaining five holes at Oakmont. They finished at minus one ahead of Bobby Nichols and Phil Rogers. 10,000 people showed up for the playoff. The playoff was actually on Sunday.
The final round was... They were still playing 36 holes a day in 1962, so the playoff was on Sunday. Decidedly pro Palmer crowd. Nicholas got out to an early lead. He was four up through just six holes. Palmer did birdie nine, 11, and 12 to get within one, but bogeyed 13. Ended up doubling the 18th hole. Nicholas won the playoff by three, but...
This was one that, I mean, Nick was obviously on the map, but those two, that would be, I believe, the only time they would ever face off in a playoff in a major championship. I could have that wrong, but it is, again, something we're never going to see again, 18 holes, two players, two defining players of a generation in a playoff.
That's a one-of-a-kind collectible, and I'm absolutely thrilled to add it to my collection. I'm a big fan of 18-hole playoffs so far and what I've got. What about 36-hole playoffs, Sully? What year was they doing that? 1925. Is that where you're taking? No, you're not. No, I'm up, right? You are. God, I can't believe this one fell to me either. But, Sully, I will also go to Oakmont.
And I will take it. It was between these two. 1973. John Miller, 63, guys.
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Chapter 4: Who are the special guest judges and what do they bring to the discussion?
I'll be on Randy's channel. It is so messed up that like this was, you know, there's been other 63s in majors, but not like final round 63s to win majors. And I was there in person when somebody broke the record and shot the first 62. Do you guys remember who that was? Shot the first 62. Ricky Fowler at LACC? It was not. I was confident though. Was it Brandon Grace?
Brandon Grace was what I was going to say. At Birkdale. It was at Birkdale. And it was just like the most ho-hum thing ever of an iconic record like that falling. Yeah, but that's what birthed the Southern Guards. Did Ricky shoot 63 at LACC? Ricky and Xander shot 62. On Thursday. Yeah. They shot 62. Sorry, I want to get it right. Yes. They tied Brandon Grayson 62. Yeah. That was great.
That was your US Open. TC and Solly. Yeah, you guys were flying the banner for that. That's your shit. The wind didn't blow. I don't know what you want me to say. It's a good golf course. We can only do so much. Yeah. Randy, going back to yours real quick, I just want to shout out one more thing about Hogan. I had this in my notes just as I was doing research.
The first round lead that week was minus six, and he won it plus seven. That is epic. I think the super got the message after round one. He already wasn't going to get the EJ Marshall platter. We're not doing this shit, man. Randy, I would like to know, as we shout these guys out, who is deserving of the Mr. title among these winners? Because I would put Johnny up there with Mr. Hogan.
I think Johnny should be Mr. Miller. I think that's a good one. He doesn't seem like he gets that respect. You hear a lot of Mr. Palmer. You never hear Mr. Miller. And it should be Mr. Miller. I would hit him with a Mr. Miller. He's a mister to me. All the media's buddies with him, though, because he became one of them. So it was like, oh, that's Johnny.
It was much more of a collegial atmosphere with Johnny Miller in the media, I think. All right. God, I got to snake back. I was prepared for one pick. Actually, I'm not prepared for anything. But this is a reach here, but I want it. For my curation, I want this one. I want 2006 at Wingfoot. Plus five hard picks. And just the Mickelson meltdown, gentlemen. Needs par on 18.
And he does some Mr. Blaylock stuff. A complete Icarito. He just launches it into the hospitality tent. Then he gambles on a recovery shot. Hits it into, I think he hits a tree. Makes double. Immediately says, I'm such an idiot, which is, you know, very relatable, personally. So it's just with all the context of all the runner-ups, and that's the one, when you think about, like,
So I know you mentioned Marion earlier, but when people are like Mickelson runner-ups in US Open, like what do you think of? I think of him hitting it off the hospitality tent for sure is the first thing that comes to mind. Because it was on 18 and because it was like very clear like, dude, just make a quality par at the last. You're a world-class golfer.
But even then, just make the bogey from where you drove it and you play in a playoff the next day and you do not need to be a hero right here. Yeah. And you throw in that Monty also double bogeyed 18 from the fairway. So sick. Basically lose it as well, which is just crushing stuff because he's had some U.S. Open misses over the past, before this, like 15 years.
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Chapter 5: What memorable moments are highlighted from past US Opens?
Yeah. Yes. He had that. I think he did that for a while. I think he did that a couple different times. Adam Scott making a run. I mean, it's just good stuff, man. Fits my collection nicely. It's good stuff. When it's all said and done and I'm looking back at these US Opens, I'm like, you know what one was really fun? It was that Chambers Bay. One of the first US Opens I ever got to go to.
Second one I think I went to. Anybody from the USGA listen to this. You guys are assholes. Oh, no. I just truly am like, I don't know what I said. I can't be held responsible for whatever I said, but I'm pretty sure I knew how good we had. I had a thrilling week. I loved Chambers Bay. A true what if. Our guy P was the 36-hole leader tied with Jordan. Yeah. Then he shot 76 in the third round.
Unlucky. Cam Smith, big tone. Uncle Yost. Uncle Yost is deliberate. That DJ three-putt, every time I watch that replay, that second shot in there, when it comes to rest, you're like, you three-putted it from there? I know. From there? It was on Cauliflower. was when you had a guy, you had tiger top, that three-wooded, that was right. Like peak tiger's back problems and yippies tiger stuff.
When he topped that three-wooded to the fairway bunker, that was supposed to be out of play, got beat by Cole hammer out there.
some good good amateurs in that one brian campbell your boy tc beau hostler bryson dechambeau uh matt knee smith obviously went on to become a tour player jake knapp sam horsfield uh riley davis davis riley uh yeah it's just god an even fuller selection than i realized i think that's really good value in in rounds like owning like the woodstock soundtrack
just so much happened there that's what I'm saying Randy it's like it's gonna get better yeah like I don't think we appreciated it in the moment yeah but uh but man Chambers like I I have such a soft spot for that place I wish they would go back there and give it another shot the greens are awesome now it's a tough spectator experience out there tough place to watch golf but it's such a good TV product
is where i think sully's uh make the tour championship more of a you know the match style like mano a mano make it to it at an event at a location like that it would be great Yeah, Randy, the Woodstock comp is good. I think I picked this one for Jimi Hendrix, but you started opening that thing up. It's like, look at what was going on in the 3 p.m. slot.
There's a lot of other heady stuff going on before the national anthem. The guitar's on fire. There's a lot of other good shit. I was thinking Woodstock 99, you know? Yeah, that's true, too. Florida Johns are overflowing. It's getting weird out there. Yeah. 1. All right. That's good. You guys made me feel better about that one than I felt when I pulled the trigger. 3.
No, you like we're going off the same list. I feel like DJ, you've been just snatching a couple of them from me. I, I'm going to, you can play a defensive pick on I'm going to keep it historic here. I'm going to go out to another iconic, iconic venue. I'm going 1982. Sure. Pebble Beach. The great man, Tom Watson. Mr. Watson. Definitely great man status. Enters the final round with the lead.
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Chapter 6: How do the hosts react to each other's picks during the draft?
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Yes, I think my lag putting is falling off here That's the one downside to the claw and I needed a recipe to get that back I'm gonna say you want to look at the power of the stack. Look at the 2022 You know as we're looking at these past champions Matt Fitzpatrick, right? He's a testament to this as well Yeah at Brookline one of my one of my courses. That's right in my draft.
Is that where you're going next? Oh No, it's not. He's going with Dub at 2023. Open up some grape, TC. Come on, do it. Let that shit air out. The can't it, you see? 1990, hail Irwin over Mike Donald at 91 holes. Just make a pick. Just a pick's all we're looking for. 2012 at Olympia, Birdman. But Webb Simpson lost that. Bo Hostler was out there and John Peterson. No, we're going to go.
Let's go 1971. Nicholas Trevino at Marion. God, I thought I'd get this one. This test is flummoxing, Solly. He's trying to fuck. Just an iconic one. I think I'm smoking, you guys. Of course you do. You know. Trevino, like big year for him. He was named Sportsman of the Year by Sports Illustrated. This is the one where he threw the snake in front of Jack. That was great.
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Chapter 7: What controversies arise during the discussion of US Open history?
I was going to have to, I was going to take Andy North. Never seen him hit a golf shot. He's won two of them. He's won two, and he's only, he's never won any other PGA Tour events. His only two wins on tour are U.S. Opens. There's a meatball hanging out there for you, Neil. And TC also, 1985 at Oakland Hills with Andy North was the two chip, TC Chen.
So he made a quadruple bogey eight on the fifth hole after a double, a bizarre double chip, um, which helped in North win it. Uh, but I'm not, I'm going to sip my face off here. I'm going to go to the people's country club. Yuck. Beth page. And, and I think this is one I have vivid memories of, um, tiger wins it minus three. Um, First time it was held at Bethpage.
The first true public municipal course to host the U.S. Open. And they beat us up with this, with the, you can change your shoes in the parking lot commercials, all that jazz. 2002, guys. I loved all of it. Okay, I'm in sixth grade. I'm deep in Atlanta Junior Golf. I'm tailing TC around the golf course. He's telling me to scram.
I couldn't get enough of this because it was Tiger and Sergio in that final group. uh, Sergio fades, but couldn't pull the trigger and pull the trigger. It was epic. And the people are being counted. God, people are yelling at him and on every hole tiger's ignoring him.
Tiger's like looking like staying on the tee box, like looking a different direction whenever Sergio is addressing the golf ball. Um, so I have some, some personal memories of watching this, this tiger win, uh, in 2002, uh, is the second us open and kind of,
like kicked off that that first or that i guess the tail end of his real dominance that first time around and then comes back around and uh later on and uh in the late 2000s so 2002 tiger uh beth page you know not my favorite place but i think it's an iconic golf course uh for you what'd they do to you what'd they do um they they canceled my tea time with a frost delay and they treated me like garbage tc that's what they did
I hate it. Yeah. So I got some unfinished business out there. I did think about Southern Hills where Stu Sink four-putted, and that's where he had unfinished business. Didn't make the playoff with Mark Brooks and Ratif Goosen. That was a good one.
was a good us open but i'm going to go with 2002. i'm going to i'm going to get tiger in the portfolio um and i i feel really good about it we're picking that up at the very very end hell yeah can't get fired for hiring ivm that's right that's right the mckenzie people made that yeah under par these judges aren't going to hear this they're just going to see oh he's got tiger on the list okay so that's great that's that's exactly i feel solo third so insulted nobody took 1964.
the the great man ken venturi almost died out there during the 36th hole final randy i thought that's where you were going you're building this collection of just like the world's toughest test the guy almost died out there man doctors following him around how tough could it really be they put him on tea and salt tablets and told him to get back out there
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Chapter 8: What predictions do the hosts make for future US Opens?
That's exciting. I think I'm just finishing a major here, Randy. I believe it is. Wiki yellow. Yeah. Uh, you know, in, in homage to my guy, Phil and all his many runner ups. I think I'm more happy though, about Neil being put in a body bag and I would have been even winning. Yeah. So that, that makes me feel good.
great judges so good good stuff yeah i did what i did what i could it let us know in the comments here on the youtube channel here but uh how you how you would rank it out and we can uh it won't count for anything but the eye you know the eye test people's people's choice among the listeners so i feel like the 80s and 90s aren't getting any love from these judges they're kind of stuck in in yeah
a little bit of a dark age. It's either like go for history and go for the true nostalgia play or go for the spectacular, you know, tiger simping or recency stuff as well. Yeah. I agree. We got to bring them to life, TC. I had an 82 one in there and I managed to win the title. So it checks out a little bit, but not quite. All right. Thank you, everyone, for tuning in.
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