Soly sits down with Jim Wagner on the front half of the pod to recap the PGA Championship from Jim's perspective on how Southern Hills played last week as a member of Gil Hanse's team that renovated the course. Wagner also provides some great insight on future projects, having some unusual or quirky features to their courses and more. Then in part two we sit down with Gil Hanse for a chat about his work at Colonial ahead of this week's PGA Tour event as well as what we can expect at Brookline for the upcoming US Open. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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