How Substack Creators Are Covering This Strange Markets Era
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Hello and welcome to another episode of the Odd Thoughts Podcast. I'm Traci Allaway.
And I'm Joe Weisenthal.
So, Joe, we continue to publish some of the conversations from our recent live show in New York. And I hope people didn't mind. They didn't seem to. They seemed to enjoy it. But we did do a little bit of media industry navel-gazing.
Totally. So as we've been talking about, if you listen to past episodes from the show, you know, the theme obviously had this big, like sort of future of markets, future of trading theme. But, you know, I would say, and maybe this is like, I'm very biased here, but I would say that information dissemination and collection, and I guess you say journalism, is an important part of markets, right? How people get information.
You say journalism like that, huh? Journalism.
No, but you know, like the thing, like... If you think about the flora and the fauna of the market ecology, then the people who report the news, digest the news, explain the news, highlight what news is relevant, what is not relevant, are important actors in that system. And in a period of so much change and uncertainty, the question of A, how you decide what's important, and B, how you convey that to an audience, these are really tough questions.
Yeah. So I think there's two major challenges here. One of them is what you just said, which is like, how do you explain these huge technological shifts to people who may not, you know, they might be outside of the tech industry? How do you explain like an incremental improvement in a model to the average layperson? And then secondly, the other big challenge is the media itself is caught in the crosshairs of the debate over whether AI is going to take all the jobs.
Right. That's right. So any one of us who's in the business of trying to consume, figure out what's important and relay it is also thinking about, will AI do a better job than we do? And precisely that included writing newsletters and producing podcasts.
That's right. So we had a trio of perfect guests for this particular discussion. All of them have been on the show before. Yeah. We had James Van Geelen. He is, of course, the founder of Citrini Research and the author of the viral AI jobs doom scenario, as well as Jasmine Sun. She writes a sub stack that's all about AI and the culture of Silicon Valley and tech, as well as Sam Rowe. He is the author of one of my favorite newsletters with the best name, The TKer. So take a listen.
Where do you even begin?
I'll start with James because he's next to me and I just want to know what his life is like right now.
What are the unique challenges journalists face in the current market climate?
Do people like recognize you on the street and scream at you about AI job losses?
I've gotten two credible death threats, but not on the street. Okay, I guess that's a plus. Yeah, no, yeah. I mean, you know, it's better when it's non-person, right? But no, luckily I've been very much an internet personality and not someone that does a lot of taped interviews like this. We appreciate you making your time.
Thanks for inviting me, by the way. I assume like 95% of you know, but in case if you randomly don't, I assume you do. When was that? February or something? You wrote a post about a theoretical possibility of, you know, we're all going to lose our jobs, but anyway. So I could see why people were upset about that. Jasmine, you write about AI and you sort of like try to, when I read your writing, it's like, bridging a gap right to some extent because there are people most of them in san francisco often on a lot of drugs or maybe they're on a cult or something like that and there's like these are like the people who are like going to influence the rest of our lives how do you think about the question of like what is actually important to communicate to a broader public
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–3:19
2
What are the unique challenges journalists face in the current market climate?
3:19–5:55
3
How is AI influencing the media landscape and job security?
5:55–10:21
4
What strategies can writers use to differentiate themselves from AI?
10:21–14:34
5
How do Substack creators navigate the AI bubble in their content?
14:34–18:37
6
What concerns exist about AI's impact on society and jobs?
18:37–22:24
7
How do Silicon Valley insiders perceive the future of AI?
22:24–26:38
8
What insights did the guests share from their personal experiences with AI?
26:38–32:48
Speakers
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