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Chapter 1: What is the Off Menu podcast and who are the hosts?

0.605 - 16.318 Ed Gamble

Hello, Ed Gamble here from the Off Menu podcast that you're listening to right now. I bring great news. My brand new stand-up tour, Fresh Hell, is on sale at the end of this month. Sign up to my mailing list for early access at edgamble.co.uk. It's going to be great.

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30.372 - 43.183 Ed Gamble

Welcome to the Off Menu Podcast, taking the cream of conversation, adding the smashed up meringue of humor, the raspberries of friendship, mixing them all up in the big bowl of the internet, and you got yourselves an Eden Mess Podcast.

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43.231 - 58.592 James Acaster

That is Ed Gamble. My name is James Acaster. Together we own a dream restaurant every single week. We invite in a gesk. We invite in a gesk? We invite in a gesk every week. And we ask them to favour ever start a main course dessert, side dish and drink. Not in that order. And this week, our guest is... Gesk. Amy Matthews.

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58.612 - 62.638 Ed Gamble

Amy Matthews. Amy Matthews. By the way, I've definitely done Eat A Mess before as an intro, surely.

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62.658 - 69.527 James Acaster

I didn't want to pick you up on it, man, because, like, do you know what? They'll be on you enough across all social platforms. I don't want to add to your worries.

69.787 - 70.548 Ed Gamble

What's your problem, Benita?

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LAUGHTER

72.256 - 92.314 James Acaster

For the listener, Ed was fiddling with his mic stand to the point where Benito gave him evils to get him to stop. And while he was giving Benito sass for it, he leant back on his chair and his chair tried to do a bucking bronco on him and sent him into the ceiling. And startled him. It gave him quite a fright. Yeah, yeah. I'm sleepy today, man.

92.494 - 94.677 Ed Gamble

But I feel wired, you know, when you're sleepy and wired.

Chapter 2: What does Amy Matthews bring to the Dream Restaurant?

145.853 - 155.105 Ed Gamble

I think how he actually did it was he got a dinosaur cookie cutter and just rammed it straight into a live turkey.

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155.946 - 164.978 James Acaster

Oh, just got it out that way? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the turkey's just running around with a triceratops hole in its side. Yeah, yeah. Wow. Bernard Matthews.

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164.998 - 165.879 Ed Gamble

It's too much, man.

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166.04 - 169.905 James Acaster

But that's the thing. I mean, you don't build an empire like that without being a visionary. Yeah.

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Yeah.

170.806 - 200.796 James Acaster

so congratulations to him they should make a succession style show for HBO about Bernard Matthews who wants to inherit the Bernard Matthews empire yeah yeah that would be good actually would be good yeah I mean people would get quite you know there'd be a lot of symbolism there with the dinosaurs yeah turkeys as well yeah yeah both those things can have double meanings yeah talking about the industry that's good maybe Amy Matthews could be in it yes Amy Matthews could be in it get Jesse Armstrong to write it obviously yeah yeah

201.164 - 202.888 James Acaster

I'll just give it to Sam Bain.

203.209 - 204.411 Ed Gamble

Oh, yeah. The other one.

204.652 - 218.802 James Acaster

Yeah, because that'd be fun. Go like, look, we're putting you head to head now. Yeah. You've got to go. It's still got to be like Succession, but it's the Bird of Matthew's Empire, and you've got to write it. I don't think Bain's agreeing to that, man. No, well, he knows that we've hobbled him from the start.

Chapter 3: What is the significance of the secret ingredient in this episode?

342.948 - 343.389 Amy Matthews

Have you?

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343.831 - 344.693 James Acaster

Yeah.

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344.713 - 345.355 Amy Matthews

I'm sorry, mate.

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345.375 - 349.266 Ed Gamble

I don't even think you're gross. I think I'm gross. I think you're weird, like a little alien man. Oh, yeah, sorry.

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350.349 - 356.788 Amy Matthews

That's great. That's what you want. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Has anyone ever thought I was gross? No.

356.937 - 359.48 Ed Gamble

Are you now going back through every interaction you've ever had with a famous person?

359.5 - 373.917 Amy Matthews

Yeah, I am actually. I really am. And there's some weird and wonderful ones that have come to mind. My favourite celebrity interaction actually was when I was about 14 and I was in London and I said, apropos of nothing, I really like, what's the guy's name who, what's the guy's name?

373.957 - 376.48 Unknown

Is this part, is this the full quote?

376.56 - 379.283 Amy Matthews

What's the guy's name who plays the dad in My Family?

Chapter 4: How does Amy describe her dream meal?

578.127 - 581.412 Ed Gamble

Was it? We had a little slice each. A little pie. Delicious.

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581.813 - 587.88 Amy Matthews

So nice. I love food. I love food so much. Like, so much.

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588.08 - 589.702 Unknown

Good. Have you always felt this way?

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590.163 - 607.442 Amy Matthews

Yes. Yeah, I have. I really, really love food. I think food's really important. I think it's a language as well, you know? It's a language. I genuinely really love food. It's so... I realised the other day as well, because I was helping someone with a eulogy. Bear with.

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Wow.

608.864 - 610.866 Ed Gamble

Writing it in crayon in your book?

610.886 - 630.046 Amy Matthews

Writing it in crayon. Drawing it on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People talk about food in eulogies so often. You know, like, oh, she used to make this thing for me. Or like, you know, it's like a huge thing. And yeah, I just absolutely love, I love food so much. And I think you can be remembered for your food.

630.407 - 638.415 Ed Gamble

I'm just going to, this is quite a dark question. But when you die, what food do you think someone will write about in your eulogy?

638.8 - 644.268 Amy Matthews

Oh, okay. I made a really, really criminal sandwich.

Chapter 5: What unique dishes does Amy Matthews choose for her menu?

705.533 - 706.294 Ed Gamble

Yeah, probably.

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706.615 - 719.9 James Acaster

Well, I definitely show it to my mates. Yeah. I mean, that was like, you're just eating it silently and not sharing it with people. You do have to say, look at this, how big this crisp is. I don't think I'd always say it's the biggest crisp in the world.

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720.28 - 725.691 Amy Matthews

No, that's a big statement out the gates. But yeah, maybe they'd mention that. That was quite bad.

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725.852 - 732.004 Ed Gamble

Yeah, I think they would mention that. So other people saw you eating this, they saw you preparing it. Yeah. That's awesome.

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731.984 - 733.266 Amy Matthews

Yeah, I don't think that's prime.

733.646 - 739.673 Ed Gamble

Would you feel good about that, knowing that in your eulogy is someone talking about your mashed potato sandwich with a big crisp in it?

739.994 - 744.299 Amy Matthews

Yeah, I think so. That's your legacy. I think that'd be fine. That would be all right, wouldn't it? It could be worse.

744.68 - 746.402 Ed Gamble

Yeah, it could be worse.

746.422 - 749.185 Amy Matthews

What would be in your eulogy? Food-wise? Yeah.

Chapter 6: What are the reactions to Amy's dessert choice?

808.909 - 816.605 Ed Gamble

What would you rather be remembered for, do you think? I want to be cremated and for someone to leave a leg of lamb on top of the coffin as it goes into the... What would you rather be remembered for?

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817.066 - 819.17 Amy Matthews

Sweet Home Ketteringer.

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819.19 - 827.449 James Acaster

Sweet Home Ketteringer. Number one. Sweet Home Ketteringer. Still a sparkling water, Amy.

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827.89 - 830.813 Amy Matthews

Oh, sparkling. Definitely. But a fine mousse.

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831.313 - 834.337 Ed Gamble

Oh, lovely. Very rare that people bring the mousse situation.

834.557 - 835.298 Amy Matthews

A fine mousse.

835.438 - 836.039 Ed Gamble

Yeah.

836.059 - 840.824 Amy Matthews

Very important. I hate it when the bubbles feel like marbles. I want it to feel like fuzzy felt.

841.244 - 845.229 Ed Gamble

This is good. Fuzzy felt in the mouth. James? Hold on a second. What? Are you worried?

Chapter 7: What are the flavors and experiences Amy seeks in her food?

1250.524 - 1256.52 Ed Gamble

I've not been to Naito. I'd absolutely love to go. I've heard it's incredible. It is incredible. Well, you wouldn't be welcome there, man.

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1256.56 - 1261.252 Amy Matthews

That's true. What are his other places? Well, what they might do is send you out just before you get your dessert.

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1261.272 - 1261.653 Ed Gamble

Yeah, yeah.

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1262.856 - 1263.858 Amy Matthews

When the end's in reaching.

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1263.878 - 1265.743 Ed Gamble

Yeah, yeah.

1266.567 - 1268.029 Amy Matthews

What was the question, sorry?

1268.17 - 1269.071 Ed Gamble

What are his other places?

1269.191 - 1293.287 Amy Matthews

His other places, he's got Lila, which is a really, really beautiful fine dining restaurant near Carlton Hill. Azel, which is the original, and that is also a tasting menu restaurant, absolutely superb. And... And Tipo, which is the second most recent one, which is all pasta and Italian infused.

1293.307 - 1293.587 Ed Gamble

Nice.

Chapter 8: How does Amy feel about the importance of food in memories?

1306.601 - 1307.662 Amy Matthews

I mean, yeah.

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1308.583 - 1309.223 James Acaster

For the listener.

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1309.243 - 1309.844 Amy Matthews

Yeah, for the listener.

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1309.904 - 1311.666 James Acaster

That's quite big.

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1311.686 - 1312.707 Amy Matthews

That's a genie's lamp's worth.

1312.923 - 1320.391 James Acaster

Is that? Yeah, yeah. Big as a genie's lamp. Yeah. Your dream starter. Your menu proper now.

1320.572 - 1321.613 Amy Matthews

I'm going to upset people.

1322.233 - 1326.258 James Acaster

Oh, great. This is what we like. Cause some controversy. Here we go. Get ready, listeners.

1326.458 - 1334.167 Amy Matthews

Can I also say how nervous I am to say the forbidden ingredient? I really have to stay at law school.

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