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Chapter 1: What insights do Jenna and Angela share about their trailers on The Office?
I'm Jenna Fisher. And I'm Angela Kinsey. We were on The Office together. And we're best friends. And now we're doing the ultimate Office Lovers podcast just for you.
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Hey, lady. We're not in the studio together. We're doing a virtual record.
We're doing this wild thing in technology where you Zoom. and your face pops up in a little box. Oh, I wanted to tell you something. What? I was so excited by this, and I cannot believe I did not share it with you immediately. Lady, we were in the San Francisco airport a while back. Okay. And there's a freaking old tech whole, like, museum. I mean, I'm sure it's just an exhibit.
It was all old telephones, lady. It was called Give Me a Ring, a Telephone Retrospective. I mean, I almost was like late for the flight. Josh was like, where'd you go? I thought you were just going to the bathroom. I'm like, there's a telephone retrospective. Look, I can put these in stories. Can you see this?
That's crazy. I mean, I had so many of those telephones in my own house, in my own lifetime. You know, hats off to the SFO airport.
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Chapter 2: What types of trailers did the cast use while filming?
I always love it when an airport gives me something to do. while I'm waiting.
Yeah, me too. I appreciate it.
You know, in the St. Louis airport, in the American terminal, they have this whole play space for kids. Oh, those are great. And my dad helped build it. No! Yes, because it's courtesy of the Magic House in St. Louis, which is a children's museum. And he used to work there. and help build exhibits. And so he also built this exhibit that they gifted to the airport.
And there's a little tower and you can pretend like you're like an air traffic controller. And there's a little, you know, baggage thingy and you can get on a plane. Yeah. And it's all like a play space. And when I walked by it, I was like, God, I love that. And how cool is it that every time you walk past it, you can think of your dad? I know. I took a picture of it.
I'll give it to you for stories. Old telephones and an airport play space and stories.
Lady, I'm here for it. When an airport surprises you. Dot, dot, dot.
Well, should we tell everybody what we're doing today? Because if you are a super fan of The Office, we think you're going to really like today's episode.
Oh my goodness, you are going to love it.
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Chapter 3: How did the trailers become a community for the cast?
And it was inspired by a fan question about our life on set, specifically our trailers. So we're going to dig into some behind the scenes of our day-to-day on The Office. And it made me so happy. I went back in time on this one, lady. I have a folder on my laptop called Our Trailers. Did you know that? Yes.
Because when we were putting together pictures for our book, we have a whole chapter in our book that kind of gives you the behind the scenes of the hair and makeup trailer and sort of life off the set. But I think we're going to dig in even deeper on today's episode.
We are. I think one of the things I was so tickled by is that I have a folder of all the stuff for our book. It's called The Office BFFs. But somehow, this one for the trailer just made its way out. And it's just been hanging on my desktop for years. And I've never tidied it.
I've never put it back where it belongs. You know why? Because it wanted to inspire this episode today. It's been waiting.
I guess so.
Well, let's kick things off with a chit-chat sent in from Harrison in Boston.
Hi, Office Ladies. My name is Harrison from Boston, Massachusetts. I love the podcast. Thank you guys so much for everything that you do. My chitchat question is about teachers. You both have talked about teachers before in the podcast. And Jenna, I know that your sister is a teacher.
Could you guys share or talk about a teacher that you had who changed your life or who made a lifelong impact on you? For me, it was my English teacher, Mrs. Roney, who fostered
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Chapter 4: What special setups did Jenna and Angela have for motherhood while filming?
Such a love of reading and writing and whose lessons still come back to me all these years later. So I was hoping that you guys could share about teachers that you have had in your lives that really, you know, left an impact on you or changed you for the better. I think teachers are so overlooked and so important and I'd love to hear about the ones that really made you who you are.
Thank you so much.
Thanks for your question, Harrison. I love this question. Yes, my sister is currently a teacher and my mom was a teacher. She's retired.
Yeah, Harrison, I mean, my sister Janet is a teacher. Oh my gosh, I'm going to get the number wrong, but she's been teaching pre-K for like 27 years. And she listens to the podcast. So if I got that wrong, she's going to let me know about it. But we love our teachers so much. And you're so right. They... forever shape your life.
Having that one teacher, and we all have that one, you know, that literally made you see the world in a different way or made you feel safe or made you feel seen. And I knew right away, two teachers popped into my mind immediately. Jenna, what about you? Same. I have a teacher from high school and a teacher from college.
Okay. You go first. All right. Well, I'll start in high school. My teacher, Mrs. Marge Minnius... What a name. Yeah, Mrs. Meneas. She taught religion at my high school. I went to a Catholic girls' high school in St.
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Chapter 5: How did the cast handle personal challenges while filming?
Louis, Missouri called Narex Hall. And during my time there, I did really grapple with my feelings about the Catholic faith. I was really troubled by certain aspects of the institution, you know, and I don't need to get into it here, but she was my religion teacher. And when I went to her,
The way that she just took me so seriously and took my thoughts and concerns so seriously, she really counseled me. She spent a lot of time asking me questions. And then when I had to write papers in class, She let me wrestle with these topics and I got A's. She gave me A's and she didn't need me to just spit back what I was being taught. Do you know what I mean? Like I didn't have to be fake.
I didn't have to pretend.
Yeah. She encouraged you to have your critical thinking and to really... be able to explore all of your feelings on the subject. It didn't matter what it aligned with or not.
Yes. And the thing that I really credit her with is that I think, especially at that time in my life, it was a critical point. And to have someone take me so seriously, it meant that I didn't abandon faith completely. You know, I am not a practicing Catholic today, and I still have my connection to God and to prayer.
And I really credit her with that because she helped me find a way to keep that piece alive in me. I didn't have to throw everything out the door just because I didn't believe in the particular religion that I was being asked to practice. That is very powerful. That is a real gift. And she was like that with all of us. She really cared. She didn't treat us like silly teenagers.
She treated us like fully formed, interesting people. So I love her for that. What about you, Ange?
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Chapter 6: What funny stories do Jenna and Angela share about their trailer experiences?
Well, the first teacher that came to mind for me was my theater teacher in elementary school. So this was at Jakarta International School, and I had this teacher named Dr. Allen. He was an amazing theater director, and we would do these fantastic musicals and plays. But in his class, it was the first time anyone ever taught me improv. And I was in maybe like fourth grade.
And he taught us some just very like short form improv games. And it was like every single part of my body came alive. I was like, what is this? This is the coolest. I love it so much. I want to do this forever. It was just like electric, you know, because I had seen plays and done school plays and there was a script and you stuck to the script. But this idea of
yes anding and free association and having to really listen and form a scene with someone else in a partnership was life-changing for me. And he also took us seriously and was invested and didn't think we were goofballs, but really wanted us to find our own comedic voice. And I was like, wow, I look back in hindsight and I'm like, how amazing to have a teacher like that in elementary.
Yeah. That's amazing. Well, when I was in college, I was a theater major. And I never got the lead roles in anything, in the musicals, in the plays. I really had a lot of opportunities in, like, the student-led productions. We had this lab theater where students would kind of decide. And, like, I got to choreograph Cabaret. Lab theater was, like, some of my favorite. It was great.
Like, we had one student who made a musical out of Schoolhouse Rock. cartoons, and I got to be in that. So I was always getting cast and being involved in the student lab productions, which honestly is really good practice for an actual professional acting career because so much of your professional acting career is you getting together with your buddies and making stuff. Yeah.
But in terms of like the mainstream productions, it was harder for me.
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Chapter 7: How did the trailers accommodate the cast during filming?
But the tech teacher, Ron Rybkowski... He was the person where we had to take classes to learn how to do lights and construction and set design. He also got to direct one play a year in the summer. So if you took the summer session, he was the director of the play. And he gave me a lead role in my last summer session. What was it? It was Crimes of the Heart. It's a play about three sisters.
And he cast me as the wild, chain-smoking, bad girl sister. It was a totally against type. But it was so fun. And it was like the confidence boost that I needed because I was going to graduate then after that summer session. And I wanted to be a professional actress and move to Los Angeles. And I had gone through my whole... four years as a theater major, never having a lead role in a production.
And he finally gave me one, and it really was a boost of confidence. But beyond that, he was just always there. He was always in his back office if we needed anything. And I remember, this is such a long story, but when I went to jail and I needed someone to bail me out, I called him.
And
It's a very long story, but I had rolled through a stop sign and I got a ticket. Why'd they take you to jail? Because I failed to appear in court for my ticket. I forgot. It was finals week. I just forgot. And you know what happens? I think that happens all the time. I know. They put a warrant out for your arrest.
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Chapter 8: What memorable moments did Jenna and Angela have with their trailer neighbors?
And so two police officers came and knocked on my apartment door and they arrested me because I had failed to appear in court for my moving violation. That you forgot about. That I forgot about. And I was like, oh my God, thank you for reminding me. I'm so sorry. And they're like, yeah, we're not the reminder police. We're like the actual police. We're gonna have to take you in.
So anyway, I was there and I was just so embarrassed and I didn't know who to call. I needed a hundred bucks to get bailed out. So I called Ron. I called my teacher, Ron Rubkowski, and he came and he bailed me out of jail. Wow. And I said, I'm not going to tell my parents. And he said, I think you should. He said, it would break my heart if my daughter didn't share that with me.
He said, I think you can share it with your parents. And I'm so glad he told me that because then I did.
Do you know what I mean? He was just like a great man. He's just like a solid, solid person to have in your life. Great advice there for you. Yes.
He also took my first headshot for free. So that when I went off to Los Angeles, I had a headshot. He did that for every graduating senior. Amazing. So that was a little bit of a meandering story. But just to say, Harrison, a big thank you to my college professor, Ron Rybkowski.
All right. Well, my second teacher was my high school English teacher. And Harrison, I totally related to you saying that for you, it was also your English teacher, Carol Campbell. And she taught honors English in... And she just made stories come to life. And I would have a lot of questions. And I loved digging into books and seeing if I could make connections or symbolism.
And she was so up for the discussion. Do you know what I mean? Like she thought the way my brain worked was really interesting. And she encouraged that writer in me. My kids right now for their high school English class, Isabel and Jack are reading The Great Gatsby.
Mm-hmm.
And I read The Great Gatsby in Mrs. Campbell's English class. Oh, are you so excited for them to read it? I'm so excited, and they're loving it. And it's been really special because I just remember all the conversations I had with Mrs. Campbell about The Great Gatsby. So yeah, big love to our teachers who are just... amazing and there for our kids in so many ways.
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