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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Oh, I think that we had a series found after. Last 10 minutes of game two, it looked like the base was in control. Then 10 minutes, you can see they're a long time.
Yeah, we ended up having a pretty good game as a result of that. And Carolina can skate different styles, to say the least, Brian, in terms of Vegas maybe a little bit bigger, heavier team, and Carolina a team with some smaller forwards that like to get up and after it.
Yeah, a little more hostile, a little more attitude. Vegas reminds me a lot of the Florida team the last couple of years. playing with an attitude and playing with some succulents, which I love. But I thought once Carolina got rolling last night, I thought they matched them in every department.
Now, I know today is a little bit of a difficult day for you. You put something out. You replaced Cliff Fletcher when you went to the Maple Leafs in November of 2008. Cliff was sort of a caretaker at that point. He was the interim general manager, and a lot of people had very high opinion of Cliff. He was a really good man, wasn't he?
Well, he's the person I first went to. I think I'm switching over from the agent business and going to the team side. The first person I talked to was Cliff. Cliff was a gentleman. He was really a bold trader, big... Big balls, like big guts. And I had a classy guy you could go to for advice. I think everyone liked him and everyone respected him.
I had more enemies after one year in the business than Cliff did after 50.
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Chapter 2: What are Brian Burke's thoughts on the Stanley Cup final?
Yeah, it's funny because I talk about it like we just had Jerry Johansson on the show. And generally speaking, Jerry's a guy that most of the teams like dealing with like he and he does win some deals like he does take some teams to the proverbial woodshed. And Rich Winter, who is a guy that's willing to be opinionated and not always share the same opinion.
I'm not quite sure everybody feels the, you know what I mean? So maybe you're a little bit more like Rich and Jerry was a little bit more like Cliff. Do you think that's a fair comparable or do you think about the lunch, Brian?
No, I think most of what you say about it makes sense. After a minute, you're a pretty practical guy. So Jerry Johansson's a real good guy. Rich is a good guy. They both had long careers. But everyone liked Cliff. No one had a problem dealing with Cliff. Yeah. Cliff paid fairly.
And that's always a good thing. Hey, look, I've got to ask you this. The NHL draft combine is in Buffalo this weekend. Off the top of your head, how many different drafts did you end up, you know, how many combines did you go to over the years? 20 to 25 plus? Oh, at least, yeah, 25 at least.
How do you equate, how difficult do you think it is for NHL organizations, Brian, to be comparing kids that have played as 17- and 18-year-olds in the NCAA, you know, McKenna goes to Penn State, Verhoff as a 17-year-old plays against 21- to 23-year-olds, You know, at North Dakota, and that league's won eight of the last ten NCAA championships.
How challenging do you think it is in the evaluation process, or even the two guys from Sweden, Stenberg and Bjork, who are playing against men in the Swedish Hockey League, against kids maybe playing in major, junior, and we know that there's been a little bit of a, you know, with some of the best players going to the NCAA, maybe major, junior isn't as strong as it's been.
What sort of challenge takes place in that evaluation process?
It turns apples and apples into apples and oranges. It makes it more difficult. It also gives you a good look at those. Like a mechanic, you get a good look at him as an NCAA player.
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Chapter 3: How does Brian Burke describe the differences between NHL teams?
Instead of watching him at 17 playing in Madison Hat or wherever, now you see him playing at Penn State. It gives you a better evaluation tool for that year. So there's some challenges to it, but I think there's some advantages too. I can just hear the excuses now when people screw up these drafts. Oh, it's really hard. It's really hard. I'm like, get over it.
You said the Toronto Maple Leafs should shop their number one.
Why?
Everybody. There's no consensus number one pick. Vancouver should shop their pick, too. San Jose should shop their pick. There's no consensus number one pick. There's no Sidney Crosby. There's no generational player. The one I'd say there's five to eight to nine really good players. Lots of positional help. There's defensive, like you mentioned. There's forwards. There's tough guys.
There's all kinds of assortments to choose from. You could trade that third pick in Vancouver and get two guys back. You trade Van Trouwels. First overall pick and get two guys back. Keep in mind, Bob, I know I keep bringing this up, but I did not have the first overall pick. I ended up with the Sedins. So it can be done.
So you had the second and third.
Had the third, got the fourth straight up. Had the first pick for about 12 minutes on the floor. pay it down to pick the two and three. My point is we started with three, and we ended up number one, and we ended up with a twin. So I'm not saying it's a comparable draft because that was the weakest draft ever, first round.
You're talking about quality players at every position and different types of players. So I would shop these picks, all of them. I think someone's going to be able to really do a job here, get one of the guys they want, Turn it into three assets.
Yeah, I mean, it's still one of the legendary stories of all time. How much, you know, you were, you know, because it wasn't, I'm just trying to, I'm just trying to think back. Did you trade McCabe in the first round? Yeah, McCabe in the first. Right. For four. To Chicago for the four. And then you traded the fourth overall. Yeah.
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Chapter 4: What challenges do NHL organizations face in evaluating young players?
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Let's go to this day in Oilers history for New West travel. Your local travel experts back at the ADD Chet Studios. Brennan Escott.
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And also Aiden Ganim is here. It's the young gun.
What you got, Aiden? Well, on this day in 2006, Chris Pronger scores the first penalty shot goal in Stanley Cup final history. But Rod Brindamore scores with 32 seconds left in the game to break a 4-4 tie and push the Hurricanes past the Oilers in game one of the Stanley Cup final.
Pronger's goal made it 3-0. I had a friend, and he actually was part of my wedding party, that texted me. He was at the game. We're going to win the cup. And I'm like, you just whammied us right now. And back came the Hurricanes. If you missed any of today's show, make sure to download, subscribe. The Oilers Now podcast is available on Apple Podcasts.
spotify and anywhere you get your streaming audio friday uh or you know it's friday today i want everybody to have a wonderful weekend uh frank cerebelli and mac to your mondays for contract equipment coming up on monday but tonight brendan escott has inside sports i'm gonna guess there's a lot of football hello brendan how you doing things are good bob yeah lots of football coming up on the show tonight uh we'll set the table obviously for their week one matchup in ottawa the guys are already out there we'll talk with dave campbell
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