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On Purpose with Jay Shetty

Lori Gottlieb: 7 Answers to Dating Questions You’re Afraid to Ask & How to Break Free from Relationship Timelines

Mon, 18 Nov 2024

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Have you ever felt stuck in a negative relationship cycle? Have you ever struggled with setting boundaries in your relationships? Today, Jay welcomes back a community favorite, the renowned psychotherapist, bestselling author, and podcast host Lori Gottlieb, for an insightful chat about love, relationships, and emotional growth. Lori, best known for her book Maybe You Should Talk to Someone and as co-host of the popular Dear Therapists podcast, brings her deep wisdom and practical advice that really hits home with listeners. Lori shares how people often step into love with unrealistic expectations, thanks to social media and pop culture. She reminds us that while the spark of initial chemistry is thrilling, true, long-lasting love thrives on a deeper connection and genuine understanding. One of the highlights is Lori’s take on “idiot compassion” versus “wise compassion.” She breaks down how real compassion means looking at ourselves honestly, recognizing our patterns, and owning our part in the relationship. This is essential for anyone feeling trapped in negative cycles. As the conversation unfolds, Jay and Lori dive into family dynamics, especially around in-laws and blending families. Lori offers practical tips on how to support your relationship while still showing respect for parents, pointing out that these challenges are usually a couple's issues, not just external ones. In this interview, you'll learn: How to Let Go of Unrealistic Expectations How to Practice Wise Compassion How to Break Negative Patterns How to Handle Pressure to Rush Relationships How to Prioritize Clear Communication How to Avoid Pop Culture Relationship Pitfalls How to Cultivate Emotional Resilience Remember, true connection flourishes when we commit to growth, communicate openly, and remain empathetic to both ourselves and others. Every step taken toward understanding and compassion brings you closer to creating a life filled with genuine, lasting connections. With Love and Gratitude, Jay Shetty What We Discuss: 00:00 Intro 02:29 What is Everyone Doing at My Age? 05:08 Why Doing Self Work Matters 08:40 Why You Need to Slow Down to Save Time 13:03 How Your Attachment Style Affects Your Relationship 17:03 First Date Impressions Aren’t Always Accurate 21:26 How Do You Define Real Human Connection? 24:33 Do You Fully Understand Your Partner? 28:24 Learn to Communicate Your Desires 31:26 This is What Happens When You Don’t Communicate 35:24 Why We’re Unreliable Narrators of Our Story 37:52 Be Consistent with Your Boundaries 42:36 We All Want to Be Liked 45:46 You’re Not Ready to Marry Yet 49:51 Practice Being Your True Self All the Time 52:36 The Blind Spots of Dating 57:08 The Truth About Future Tripping 01:00:10 How Do You Feel About the Other Person? 01:01:33 The 7-Year Mark of Marriages 01:03:50 Can Having Children Save a Marriage? 01:07:35 In-Law Issues is a Couple Issue 01:12:01 The Concept of Feeling Felt 01:16:50 How Long Can You Tolerate Disrespect from Your Partner?  Episode Resources: Lori Gottlieb | YouTube Lori Gottlieb | Instagram Lori Gottlieb | Website Dear Therapists Podcast Maybe You Should Talk to SomeoneSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Chapter 1: What should I do if I feel behind in dating at 28?

171.26 - 173.485 Jay Shetty

the number one health and wellness podcast. Jay Shetty.

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Jay Shetty. The one, the only, Jay Shetty.

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179.807 - 201.324 Jay Shetty

Hey everyone, welcome back to On Purpose. I am so grateful that you're here with me today. Thank you for lending me your ears and eyes for the next few moments as we dive in to how you can become happier, healthier, and more healed. Today's guest is one of your favorites. You absolutely love it. Whenever she's on the show, we've obviously reached out already to you,

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for your questions for her as well. I'm talking about your favorite therapist, Laurie Gutlieb, psychotherapist and New York Times bestselling author of Maybe You Should Talk to Someone, which has sold nearly 2 million copies and is currently being adapted as a television series. In addition to her clinical practice, she's the co-host of the popular Dear Therapist podcast.

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223.562 - 230.327 Jay Shetty

If you're not subscribed already, make sure you go and do that. Welcome back to On Purpose, Laurie Gutlieb. Laurie, it's great to have you back.

230.467 - 231.828 Lori Gottlieb

It's so great to be here, Jay.

231.908 - 246.22 Jay Shetty

Honestly, every time you come in here and we have these conversations, they just go crazy viral online. People love your advice. They love your insight. They always want you back. And I'm so thankful to you that you always choose to come back. So it means a lot to me that you're back here with me.

246.4 - 248.001 Lori Gottlieb

Well, thank you so much for having me back.

248.662 - 270.602 Jay Shetty

We've done what we did last time because people loved it so much. We've gone out to our audience, gone out to our community. I've even reached out to some friends and I've crowdsourced all of their challenges, all of their issues, all of their real life experiences that they're going through. And some of these people don't have access to therapists. Some of these people maybe can't afford it.

Chapter 2: How can I avoid rushing into relationships?

Chapter 3: What is wise compassion in relationships?

Chapter 4: How do attachment styles affect relationships?

173.786 - 177.173 Unknown Speaker

Jay Shetty. The one, the only, Jay Shetty.

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179.807 - 201.324 Jay Shetty

Hey everyone, welcome back to On Purpose. I am so grateful that you're here with me today. Thank you for lending me your ears and eyes for the next few moments as we dive in to how you can become happier, healthier, and more healed. Today's guest is one of your favorites. You absolutely love it. Whenever she's on the show, we've obviously reached out already to you,

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201.804 - 223.261 Jay Shetty

for your questions for her as well. I'm talking about your favorite therapist, Laurie Gutlieb, psychotherapist and New York Times bestselling author of Maybe You Should Talk to Someone, which has sold nearly 2 million copies and is currently being adapted as a television series. In addition to her clinical practice, she's the co-host of the popular Dear Therapist podcast.

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223.562 - 230.327 Jay Shetty

If you're not subscribed already, make sure you go and do that. Welcome back to On Purpose, Laurie Gutlieb. Laurie, it's great to have you back.

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230.467 - 231.828 Lori Gottlieb

It's so great to be here, Jay.

231.908 - 246.22 Jay Shetty

Honestly, every time you come in here and we have these conversations, they just go crazy viral online. People love your advice. They love your insight. They always want you back. And I'm so thankful to you that you always choose to come back. So it means a lot to me that you're back here with me.

246.4 - 248.001 Lori Gottlieb

Well, thank you so much for having me back.

248.662 - 270.602 Jay Shetty

We've done what we did last time because people loved it so much. We've gone out to our audience, gone out to our community. I've even reached out to some friends and I've crowdsourced all of their challenges, all of their issues, all of their real life experiences that they're going through. And some of these people don't have access to therapists. Some of these people maybe can't afford it.

270.662 - 290.277 Jay Shetty

Some of these people... maybe even have therapists, but are still struggling and trying to figure it out. And so I love the fact that we can use you as our community therapist and learn from you. So I want to dive straight in. Sure. One of the biggest questions I'm hearing and getting from people in my community and audience is, am I behind for being single at 28?

Chapter 5: What does effective communication in a relationship look like?

383.566 - 395.289 Lori Gottlieb

Because yes, there might be something that the other person did, but also what was your role in that interaction? A relationship is all about relating. So what was your role in the dance that you're doing with this person?

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395.949 - 409.473 Lori Gottlieb

And what you get in therapy is you get wise compassion where we hold up a mirror to you and we help you to see something about, you know, what your role is, maybe something you haven't been willing or able to see, but that's so important. So you don't repeat

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These situations where you're in this pattern and then you wonder, why do I keep ending up with a person who doesn't listen to me or a person where I don't feel seen or where I can't be myself or where we have a lot of volatility or where this person's really avoidant? Why am I always with people who avoid or what makes me avoid? And I don't talk to the person about what I want or what I need.

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432.409 - 443.341 Lori Gottlieb

So that's the work that's really important. So you're not behind if you're single at 28. It's part of the process. If you're doing the work, you're much closer than you've ever been to finding the person that you want to be with.

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443.622 - 467.3 Jay Shetty

I'm so glad you said that. I remember talking about it in my... book that I wrote called Eight Rules of Love. And it was this idea of relationship karma. And I was using the concept of karma from the Eastern traditions to understand that karma is every action has a reaction. And it was, can you pinpoint what action you've taken in order to end up in the same experience with a different person?

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So as you were saying that whether you keep attracting an avoidant person, you keep attracting someone who doesn't listen to you, you keep attracting someone who is interested for a month, but then disconnects or whatever it may be.

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And it's like, where, what action have you taken in your choice, in your curation of this individual, in your approach to this individual that has potentially led to that?

490.102 - 510.406 Lori Gottlieb

Absolutely. That's so spot on. We know we have this saying, we marry our unfinished business. We date our unfinished business too. So if you, let's say earlier in your life, you were around someone who, you know, was neglectful, somebody who drank too much, somebody who lost their temper, somebody who wasn't honest, somebody who wasn't reliable.

510.786 - 530.604 Lori Gottlieb

We think when we're dating as adults, like I want the opposite of that. I want someone where I feel safe, secure, there's trust. But what happens is unconsciously, again, if we haven't done the work, our unfinished business, we actually are unconscious as, oh, you look familiar, come closer. So on the surface, they don't look like that person.

Chapter 6: How can I cultivate emotional resilience?

756.027 - 760.65 Lori Gottlieb

And she said, six months? I don't have six months to waste. And I said, it's not going to be a waste.

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No matter whether you stay in this relationship or you go to a different relationship, you're going to learn so much about yourself in relationship that you can't learn if you're not in a relationship because you need to be able to have these interactions to understand what they trigger in you, what they bring up in you. And you can't do that in isolation.

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So many people say, I need to completely understand myself before I can go and date. And I say, you're going to learn so much about yourself. You want the best tutorial on who you are and your operating instructions and what makes you tick? Get in a relationship with somebody. You will be pushed and challenged in ways that you aren't challenged when it's just you sitting there thinking.

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Chapter 7: What are the common pitfalls in modern dating?

Chapter 8: How can I ensure clear boundaries in relationships?

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But then when you get to know them, you're a month in, you're three months in, you're six months in, you think, wow, that person reminds me of someone. This person feels so familiar. And that's why I was drawn to this person. It turns out this person is very much like what I grew up with, is very much like the person who hurt me growing up.

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550.339 - 571.434 Lori Gottlieb

So if you do the work, you're able to see, oh, that person, I see why I'm drawn to them, but I'm not drawn to them in a healthy way. And then if you do even more work, you're not even drawn to those people anymore. Now you're drawn to healthy people, stable people, flexible people, emotionally generous people, people whose values align with yours. That's who you're drawn to.

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571.854 - 573.255 Lori Gottlieb

So you have to do the work.

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573.695 - 593.348 Jay Shetty

Yeah, absolutely. I'm so glad that you've made that the reminder because I think often we validate and make people feel like it's okay that they're single. And I think you are doing that. But I think this is a step further, which is like, you are behind if you're not actually learning from the experiences that got you here and you're not actually refining it. Another pressure that I feel is,

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that mounts on people as time goes on. It's so fascinating to me that we're in 2024. We hope that we're living in a society that is letting go of timelines, that's letting go of gender roles, that's letting go of these boundaries and limits that are placed on us because of what age we are and what gender we are and everything else.

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But I find that internally, we all actually still carry a lot of those pressures. And another big question for our community was, if I do get into a relationship in my early 30s, do I now have to rush things? Often what I heard was people were saying, I feel like I have to feel like this person is the one because I'm running out of time.

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And I have this fear that the pool is getting so much smaller as I get into my early 30s that I'm going to have the worst pick because no good people are going to be left. Now, we know that all of these things are not factually true. They're not data backed. Like these are ideas, but these are the kind of thoughts that I'm hearing from people who are entering that space.

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What would you say to someone who's saying, Laurie, I feel I have to rush things. I have to kind of compromise and make sure this is the one because I have to get to that point because I want to be in a relationship. And actually, I fear that I'm going to get the worst pick of the bunch because I'm 35 years old and I haven't found someone.

676.818 - 696.47 Lori Gottlieb

We literally just had someone like this on the podcast. And she felt like I have to decide right away if this is the person. And if there's any issues here, I have to leave right away as opposed to understanding that if she doesn't understand what these issues are about, she will just repeat that in the next relationship.

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