This week, Anthony talks with veteran Washington reporter Jonathan Karl. Jonathan’s new book Tired of Winning explores how Donald Trump has wrecked the Grand Old Party and remade it in his own image. Together they discuss Trump’s campaign for “revenge,” his transition from disgraced to the dominant force, yet again, and what a second Trump presidency would mean for American democracy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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