Mark Esper, the 27th Secretary of Defense under President Trump joins Anthony to discuss his bestselling memoir, A Sacred Oath: Memoirs of a Secretary of Defense During Extraordinary Times. Together they make sense of the Trump years, sharing stories from behind the closed White House doors, and of course, both of their firings. Then, Secretary Esper examines America’s current national security, considering the threat of China, Putin - and the United States itself. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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