Risk-taking & Resilience with Sukhinder Singh-Cassidy CEO of Xero
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
big risks correlate to big returns. Sometimes big risks, if they're really speculative, correlate to no returns or low returns, right? Sometimes small risks overperform. So mostly as I've looked at my career and made sense of it, you know, I realize I am a risk taker. That's not obvious when you're going through it.
Welcome to Orbit, the HG podcast series where we talk to leaders from across the tech ecosystem to hear how they've built and scaled some of the most successful software companies globally. I'm Joe Jeffries, a director in our Saturn Fund at HG, and I'm delighted to be joined today by Sekinda Singh Cassidy, the CEO of Xero. So firstly, Sekinda, thanks very much for taking the time to join me today. It's great to see you.
Yeah, you as well. Looking forward to it.
If we jump right in, you're the CEO of Zero. It's a business that I think many, many of our listeners will know and one that we've got huge admiration for and respect for at HG. We touch your business a lot of ways through our tax and accounting investments at, you know, one of our key clusters, probably the oldest cluster that we've been investing out of for for twenty years now. We're often partners with you. We sometimes compete with you as well. But um in case anyone's in any doubt, do you wanna give a quick overview of Zero and I guess particularly the business that it's become today?
Uh Zero serves about four million small businesses worldwide and their advisors as a cloud native. Accounting Pioneer, which now offers a variety of services to, as I noted, small businesses and the accountants and bookkeepers who serve them and increasingly, you know, are are able to support other advisors as well. When you think about that business from a financial perspective, Joe, it's almost two billion New Zealand dollars. The company was founded out of New Zealand, but now operates in 180 different countries. And we we'll talk about our large markets in a moment. So we're just over about a billion USD at our last annual results and growing nicely. So last year we grew north of 20%. We're profitable.
We hit about rule of forty one. I believe and as you pointed out turned profitable on a consistent basis, you know, within the last 18 months. But most importantly, and I think this is the heart of zero. As we noted, we we're grown in the southern hemisphere.
What is Xero’s mission and how does it serve small businesses worldwide?
So Australia, New Zealand are two large markets for us. The UK is a very large market. The US is a large and strategic market. We also have operations in multiple other countries, Canada, South Africa, Singapore, and then we serve the rest of our countries through a digital only product that you can get and use for your online bookkeeping needs. And lastly, very proudly mission driven. The company wakes up every day thinking about how to serve its customers well, how to be a good player in the markets in which we operate, how to be an open and inclusive workplace, how to sort of mirror, you know, what we want to be in the world with how we operate in the world. And and that's really, really important to us.
That's great. And if we switch the focus to you, I guess, to start. So obviously you're the CEO of Zero. You I think your two year anniversary is coming up very soon, isn't it?
It is right around.
But I guess prior to your time at Xero, you've had a really varied career. So um you've obviously been a senior exec for a for a long time across a number of businesses. You've been a founder, a board member. a serial CEO as well. And you've done that at some of the biggest, you know, sort of most prestigious tech firms globally. So Amazon, Google are the names that jump out. You've obviously held those roles at smaller firms as well. And I guess To get us going, do you want to give a potted history of your career today? And I guess in particular the bits, it would be good to bring out whether there's a pattern or a play to your career and your successes and sort of what your what your journey's been and how you've thought through that.
You pointed it out that maybe I'm a bit of an odd doc, which is I've been a founder three times and I've been a CEO three times, including and also a senior executive.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:01–2:06
2
What is Xero’s mission and how does it serve small businesses worldwide?
2:06–5:15
3
How did Sukhinder’s early career and family background shape her risk‑taking mindset?
5:15–11:09
4
What are the three pivotal moments that taught Sukhinder to embrace smart risk‑taking?
11:09–16:00
5
How does Sukhinder view risk as a portfolio of bets rather than a single gamble?
16:00–20:01
6
What does resilience look like for a leader who’s faced repeated setbacks?
20:01–24:11
7
How does Sukhinder balance authenticity, transparency, and hands‑on leadership at a global scale?
24:11–29:20
8
What strategies does Xero use to maintain an inclusive culture across 180 countries?
29:20–42:45
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