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FINAL ONE STANDING: ‘I’d have concerns about how Spurs are run!’ | The Manchester Derby

16 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What are the highlights from the recent FA Cup weekend?

0.436 - 2.079 Ger Gilroy

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18.661 - 25.791 Lee Phelps

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18plusgamblingcare.ie Alright, you're very welcome along to this week's episode of Final One Standing. It's a pretty interesting weekend of football. Man Utd and Man City is the half-twelve kick-off. Our two live games on Sunday are Wolves and Newcastle at two o'clock and then Villa against Everton from half-past four. And you can hear live, exclusive, uninterrupted commentary of both those games

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on Off the Ball on Sunday afternoon on Newstalk with John Duggan in the hot seat. Mick McCarthy and Ben Symes are with us in studio and Lee Feltz is with us on the line. Lee, good afternoon to you. How are you? I'm really good. How are you guys doing? In the end, your cup weekend last weekend was pretty good, I think, was it?

61.557 - 81.042 Mick McCarthy

Yeah, really good. I thought it was great when you had the upset on the Friday night, obviously, which has kind of been forgotten about because of what Macclesfield did. I mean, we had a fair few punters back Macclesfield. Someone had £100 on, as it were, 11 to 1. I mean, it's not a huge price, is it, given how big the difference is between them and Palace.

81.082 - 83.245 Mick McCarthy

But yeah, I thought it was a really good weekend.

Chapter 2: How are Manchester United and Manchester City preparing for the derby?

83.663 - 93.277 Ben Symes

Ben, I thought we were going to get another joint killing when Western Supermare kept equalising against your beloved Grimsby. I'm thinking of you. That's a little bit worried.

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93.438 - 102.371 Mick McCarthy

I was thinking about the mean one to four at home. If you were sat on a one, no one's back to the Grimsby at one to four anyway, so it's pointless people saying it, let's be honest.

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102.551 - 122.479 Unknown

I'm sure there was somebody who was like, oh, that's a handy win. Was it 87th minute winner? Was it something like that? Look, we're a cup team this year. what can I say the cup is back right I think we can like it has over the last couple of years rescued itself from whatever it was whatever period in the doldrums it's now back

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122.594 - 147.157 Mick McCarthy

It feels like it. It's interesting. I was looking at the... Obviously, a lot is made, and rightly so, of the amazing results for the likes of Macclesfield and Wrexham. But when you looked at a lot of the other Premier League versus non-Premier League games, the aggregate score... was 32-7. And No Man's City accounted for 10 of those goals.

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147.638 - 167.209 Mick McCarthy

But, you know, I think so, because you look at, like, Wolves had a good day. Burnley won well. I think it was 5-1 and 6-1. So there's a lot of teams, Premier League teams, who really put them to. So there's only one team, I think, who kept a clean sheet in those games. And that was Brentford. So the rest, both teams to score and the Premier League team winning all landed.

167.229 - 169.813 Mick McCarthy

So some big hackers out there for someone.

169.793 - 187.482 Ben Symes

I think there was four all Premier League games and I didn't see Newcastle Bournemouth or Everton Sunderland but they seemed like they were dramatic but the Villa Spurs game and the United Brighton game felt like big games that were important to both teams and I think when you get that in the cup

Chapter 3: What tactical changes can we expect from Manchester United under Carrick?

187.462 - 200.713 Ben Symes

that's when it loses its luster if you're getting a Chelsea-Arsenal game that doesn't feel like a Chelsea-Arsenal game. You can't take it too seriously then, but it didn't give us any of those last weekend, which I think makes everybody feel quite positive.

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200.774 - 221.993 Unknown

And in a weird way, Wolves and essentially Burnley being already down means they're going to put their strongest team out in the cup on the off chance that they might be able to go on some kind of reputation-restoring run. This weekend, obviously, Man Utd against Man City is the big one. What are you seeing here, Lee? What do you think is going to happen?

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222.033 - 249.927 Mick McCarthy

I can't see how Manchester City don't win this game because Michael Carrick goes into this job and he's seen Darren Fletcher get two poor results in his interim two games. They had 48 shots on goal in those two games, Man United. 18 on target. Carrick can't go in there and instil his Middlesbrough virtues, which was heavily possession-based, bring teams onto you and then hit them.

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250.267 - 269.59 Mick McCarthy

They cannot do that against... He's not going to have instilled that in them in that many days. And they can't do that against Manchester City anyway, because they'll get battered. Now, if they go out and play Man City in the way that Fletcher has been setting them up, go and attack... which everyone talks about this more attacking style, they'll still get battered, but it might be a bit more.

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269.611 - 282.683 Mick McCarthy

They might score a goal or two themselves. Obviously, we're expecting to have Brian and Bumo back. Ahmad's back as well from AFCON. We don't know if they'll start the games, but you'd hope they would. So I can see goals. I think Man City, they need a win.

282.883 - 300.619 Mick McCarthy

Maybe it's a bit much to call it must win, but for their title credentials, if Man City had drawn the last three, if they'd won those three, they would be top of the Premier League right now. So they can't draw or lose this game. I think Man City have to go and win. They're odds on, touch of odds on to do it. Good record, of course.

301.139 - 322.539 Mick McCarthy

Recently, I think United have scored two goals at home to City in the last six matches. That's over 550 minutes of football. City are susceptible at the back, aren't they? I think City win this. But again, City to win and both teams to score, I'd be looking at. Haaland's got a brilliant record against them. Eight goals and three assists. in his games against United.

322.92 - 338.702 Mick McCarthy

And obviously they've got Antoine Semenya, who just made a... He continued his great form, didn't he? No matter who he plays for, he just carries on scoring goals. So, yeah. How did Man United win this? I don't understand, really, how they could possibly get a result.

339.963 - 352.991 Unknown

I think the only way they can do it is to batten down the hatches and have a moment of genius from someone like... free kick from 45 yards or something. Yeah.

Chapter 4: What are the implications of Manchester City's recent performance?

406.321 - 420.947 Ben Symes

I think they're actually pretty well set up, especially if Mbumu is back. If Ahmad plays a part. I think they're well set up for hitting City on the counter. And you look at City's back four.

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421.889 - 446.175 Ben Symes

with all the injuries and I don't know it doesn't it's definitely not like title winning defence that you'd be overly worried about there is a world in which United go out and it's like right you're freed from the shackles It won't work all season, but for a couple of games, we're playing City and Arsenal this week. Go out, get stuck in, give it a last shack, and just hit them on the counter.

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446.195 - 448.338 Ben Symes

Play with pace and intensity.

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448.478 - 449.359 Unknown

That's very Roy Keane.

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449.76 - 471.043 Ben Symes

It's not my philosophy on football. I just think that it can work at times, and this might be suited, I think, this week for it. We don't know if Carrick's even going to do that. For all we know, he could be like, tactical master plan, 15-page dossier, go out and do this, whatever. But there is also a world in which it's like, just go out, beat your man, and go and win the game.

471.063 - 481.073 Ben Symes

Like, it's a Manchester derby, do it for the fans. I don't know. Again, I don't see it working long-term, but I just don't think City are this unbeatable force that we seem to be treating them as.

481.475 - 505.442 Mick McCarthy

No, I agree with that. I just wonder if he'll get caught between a few different stalls. And the players must be a little bit like, what are we doing? Because they seem to change tack under Fletcher. Now, are they going to change again under Carrick? It's a strange one. But look, I expect Manchester City to win the game and there to be goals in it. That's where I see this ending up.

506.103 - 516.734 Mick McCarthy

I don't know if Man United have got the discipline to do what you guys have just said. It does seem like probably the most sensible tactic. I just don't know if they're good enough to pull that off. They're probably not good enough to pull that off, actually. I do know.

517.995 - 537.525 Unknown

Pep picked his full team or is close to a full team. Maybe... Certainly picked a really strong team. Tuesday, yeah. Yeah. Haaland's first start in that competition in a long time. And that would suggest he's still looking for them to get... Now, maybe he's taking it seriously. Maybe that's what it suggests and nothing else.

Chapter 5: How do injuries affect Manchester City's defense ahead of the derby?

574.595 - 595.03 Mick McCarthy

16 goals. Antoine Semenya. Now, he's a few back, don't get me wrong here, but he's 12-1 to be the top scorer without Erling Haaland. So if he's going to play the majority of Premier League games, we don't know what's going to happen, obviously. I'm speculating here a little bit, but if he's going to carry on his form and he's hit the ground running...

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595.01 - 610.11 Mick McCarthy

At 12-1, he's got some ground to make up on Igor Thiago, don't get me wrong. But I think that might be worth a look. If anyone likes those markets, it just caught our eye in the office the other day that we thought it was a little bit big for Semenya. In a City team who can score goals.

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610.47 - 627.056 Unknown

Look, here's the thing. If he is the new favourite of Pep, brilliant. But if he's one of those players who Pep decides, I'm not sure about him. Going to be big for your boots there with all those goals from my team. You're a bit too creative, a bit too free-spirited for my liking.

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628.44 - 630.304 Mick McCarthy

I thought it was a rescue, right?

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630.745 - 636.981 Unknown

That's it, the main side of that. The Carrick thing, very briefly, everybody's thoughts.

638.142 - 656.117 Ger Gilroy

I think we've come so accustomed to this in Manchester United the manager comes in in January he's sacked the next January and bring a man who knows the club is back Remadrid have also seemed to do it this window yeah look I'll be honest with you as someone who's not a Manchester United fan

656.097 - 678.392 Ger Gilroy

I could care less about Michael Carrick going back to Manchester United I know it's only for the next six months he'll have a couple of wins somewhere down the line and the United fans will be clamouring for him to get the job for next season they shouldn't do that have a plan get your manager in after the World Cup which I presume they're waiting to see who leaves the national team job after the World Cup and stick to it don't fall for the Carrick clamour when he wins against Burnley West Ham and Wolves you know

679.486 - 695.605 Ben Symes

I think they won't I think they won't so it is what it is almost and it's like what needs to happen is that they need to get some results and stay in you know people keep talking about how many points are off the Champions League and this that and the other you also have to take the context of the league they have been

696.209 - 720.073 Ben Symes

They've had a run of games that have been unbelievably favourable going back two and a half months now. And that ends this weekend. And it's tougher for the rest of the season. Obviously, there will be bursts, but they could be out of it. They could be out of it, but they also might not be. And the difference between this season being a total waste and this will be a European race is...

Chapter 6: What strategies might Manchester United employ to secure a win?

847.538 - 859.68 Ben Symes

They do know that no matter what Lima Senior comes in with, he will be taken a certain way by people, by footballers, by top-level footballers. And there's nothing you can do about that. There's no...

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859.66 - 874.694 Mick McCarthy

and all the social memes already, like, you know, the kind of, um, you know, the thing with AI is like, and we know, we know footballers are on social media and they will react to it and they'll be laughing about it. And there's all the memes about him looking like the guy from the, um, from the in-betweeners and like looking like a bit of a geek.

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874.714 - 893.24 Mick McCarthy

And he's like, he's a FIFA player and all that sort of stuff. So yeah, that, That has to permeate through to players these days, I think. It's a worry because you just wish him the best because it's a great opportunity. I thought the same about Thomas Frank, weirdly. At the start of the season, I know I'm going to sound like an after-timer here, but I swear I said it.

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893.66 - 911.687 Mick McCarthy

When I saw him in the dugout and when I saw him doing the press conferences, he looked small for Tottenham. I don't know what I mean by that, but I just thought at the time, something about this isn't quite right. And now this is coming into the way we look at managers now. It's mad, isn't it? Think what's happened with Nuno. What's happened with Ange.

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912.028 - 926.691 Mick McCarthy

What could happen with Nuno again, by the way. What could happen with Thomas Frank and Spurs. Nancy, it's no longer crazy that a manager goes into a club and doesn't last not only a season, but half a season. It's mad.

927.869 - 942.533 Unknown

like the whole thing about Brian Clough lasting 33 days or whatever it was at Leeds United was that it was so rare and so random and the player power and then he goes on and has a great career afterwards. It's like, you know, and obviously the characters were all so big.

942.573 - 950.907 Mick McCarthy

He made that situation like absolutely terrible, didn't he, at Leeds United? He went in there and like just did it. Yeah. So it's like a bit like kind of he...

951.292 - 971.781 Mick McCarthy

it was a battle from the start wasn't it so it was a bit of a different situation but having said that Nuno getting himself the sack effectively you could say the same about you know Maresca doing the same you know so this is happening you could say the same about Amarim that's speaking out it's interesting I was listening to someone talking about for senior

972.284 - 980.152 Mick McCarthy

he's talking too much in the media that we're saying. He's too vocal already. Like Hammerin was, just don't say as much as you're saying.

Chapter 7: What are the latest betting odds and predictions for the Manchester Derby?

1033.73 - 1040.918 Ben Symes

Me and you have talked about it, Ben, haven't we? And I just remember thinking there was a sense that... That Nuno's Forrest. It was.

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1040.898 - 1070.112 Ben Symes

this was a terrible one but their performance against Chelsea that night was just very tenacious and they just seemed like a better coach team than Chelsea and obviously it's going to be different at Stamford Bridge and Chelsea have a different coach but I just wouldn't write off Brentford getting something from this game I think that and look the Chelsea Brentford rivalry such as it is matters more to Brentford than it does to Chelsea they're aware of it Chelsea are like who are you lads

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1071.543 - 1104.748 Mick McCarthy

Yeah, there's one person who will absolutely love the new Chelsea boss. A punter had a bet builder, a tenner on a bet builder in the Arsenal-Chelsea match the other night. And thanks to Impact Sub... took away £15,000. It was a £10 bet. £15,000. He had Neto and Trossard to be carded. Neto, Zubamendi and Odegaard, at least one shot on target. Ngoi, over one shot on target.

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1105.248 - 1126.271 Mick McCarthy

He went off and Garnaccio replaced him. So that substitution earned one of our punters a massive, massive bet builder win. But Yeah, so the one person who'll be saying to us, leave him alone, he's fine, let him crack on. I think I'd be worried about this if I was a Chelsea fan. Brentford have got a good record against them at Stamford Bridge.

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1126.352 - 1149.837 Mick McCarthy

One loss and three wins since they've returned to the Premier League. I think they score at the very least. Igor Thiago. I mean, if it wasn't for Erling Haaland, this guy's record this season is sensational. 17 goals in all competitions in 22 games. He's 8-5 to score here. Kevin Sharder scored in the game at Brentford. He's always dangerous. Both teams to score is 4-6.

1150.017 - 1161.912 Mick McCarthy

So if you're looking for something to put in Anaka and you're looking at Chelsea at 4-6, I'd rather put both teams to score in at the same price, if I'm being honest. I'm just not sure about Chelsea at that price.

1161.892 - 1174.885 Unknown

I think that makes sense, especially with their goalkeeper. Everybody feels like they have a chance of scoring against them at the moment. Anything else coming up this weekend? We expect Liverpool to get back to some kind of straightforward winning ways. They're 4-1 on at home to Burnley.

1175.547 - 1178.314 Mick McCarthy

Yeah, short price, aren't they?

1178.294 - 1197.67 Mick McCarthy

look they should win that shouldn't they they've got obviously a really good record against Burnley Burnley struggle there's a couple of prices that stood out to me that was Sunderland at home to Crystal Palace it's more or less a pick and between them two in terms of who wins shouldn't be I think Sunderland have battled away during the AFCON period they've you know

Chapter 8: How does the managerial situation at Spurs impact their performance?

1259.066 - 1271.923 Mick McCarthy

And they've got four, four, six and ten players left in them respectively. Wow. The 200,000 euro pot, two have gone for Spurs, one's gone for Leeds, and one's gone for Brighton. They play Bournemouth at home on Monday night.

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1272.244 - 1300.618 Mick McCarthy

I mean, if that player who's got Brighton has seen Spurs and Leeds not win, and you're going into Monday night with 200,000 pounds on the line, look, even if Brighton weren't to win, the four of them would share 200k, so they'd still get 50,000 euros. Exactly. That 50k pot though, four players left. I mean, they can't see this. So if they hear this or watch this, then they'll know.

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1300.678 - 1302.243 Mick McCarthy

But all four have gone spurs.

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1302.563 - 1303.847 Ben Symes

Oh no.

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1303.827 - 1333.193 Mick McCarthy

at home I don't know if they're in West Ham but like Spurs at home is like the poisonous chalice there is I know so it's going to be a really interesting weekend for all that yeah we've got our usual ACA boost available four picks gets your boost activated you've got all your bet builder winnings boost and epic boosts so some cracking epic boosts over the weekend really looking forward to it should be a cracking return to the Premier League yeah good stuff Lee thanks for joining us cheers thank you sleep helps with us there anything particularly you want to talk about

1333.308 - 1348.709 Ben Symes

I think Spurs and West Ham is a really interesting game, regardless of the final one's standing implications. Because you're talking about two teams in full-on crisis. I don't know, like, are West Ham gone? Like, you seem to think they are, Ben, but they're not. Do you know what I mean?

1348.729 - 1366.885 Ben Symes

Like, there is probably enough there that they could start picking up some points here and there, but... And they need to do it immediately. But, like, in fairness, it's almost an opportunity going to Spurs. Like, it's... Or do Spurs just win this game comfortably against a really bad team and it keeps the wolves from the door for a couple of days?

1367.225 - 1377.499 Ger Gilroy

And that's how we look at this game. That's exactly the way I'd be leaning towards and that's not even just with the pessimistic hat on. I think if you look at these two teams on paper, they're both in horrendous runs of form.

1378.48 - 1390.172 Ger Gilroy

When two teams in horrendous runs of form come against each other, there has to be one winner unless they play out the worst stalemate we've ever seen, which is possible in the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. I think if you look at the two teams on paper... Spurs are probably far the better team.

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