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What Is Zozo? feat JC Dentun [Patreon Preview]

05 Nov 2024

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In this patreon bonus episode, I am joined by researcher JC Dentun to dive into the many theories, supposed historical references, and internet origin stories about the "Zozo" phenomenon. To listen visit www.patreon.com/otherworld To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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5.748 - 21.391 Jack Wagner

Welcome to Otherworld. What you're hearing right now is a short preview of a full episode that's available right now on our Patreon. If you want to hear the full thing, you could visit patreon.com slash otherworld. This episode is a follow-up to our recent Zozo series.

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22.171 - 41.681 Jack Wagner

In those episodes, you heard stories from two strangers that had very similar experiences talking to something on a Ouija board that identified itself with the name Zozo. I spent lots of time diving into this topic, There is no shortage of theories and lore out there on the internet in regards to what Zozo might be.

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42.642 - 64.086 Jack Wagner

But if you try to look into any of those theories, there's often not much there or the connections are very loose. The theories about Zozo are all over the place. I've heard that it's an ancient Sumerian demon. I've heard that it's connected to Jimmy Page's Zozo symbol, made famous on the album Led Zeppelin IV.

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64.647 - 87.046 Jack Wagner

I've heard that Zozo actually means Pazuzu, which is the demon from the movie The Exorcist. There are so many theories like this, so many more. The list goes on and on. I've heard people say that this name is referenced in very old books that date back to 1512. These books are only available in PDF pretty much and are in different languages.

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87.987 - 105.457 Jack Wagner

They're also just quite difficult to read, even if you do get your hands on them, because they're quite long and dense. For that reason, I sought out the help of a researcher named JC Denton, who has been on the show before. I sent him out there to dive into all the various theories about Zozo.

106.297 - 129.781 Jack Wagner

And I asked him to come on and talk to me about which had merit and to see if there's any historical information that could be useful when it comes to this topic and basically help me understand how to think about all of this if something like Zozo did indeed exist. If you want to hear the full conversation, like I said, it's out now on our Patreon. That's patreon.com slash otherworld.

137.657 - 160.434 Jack Wagner

once something becomes popular you know even if it's very real and happens legitimately to people there's also going to be people who want to get clicks on youtube off of it and just will fake things right like that's the nature of it that's why i like pretty much everything on paranormal tiktok is fake because youtube it's like you know i called the grinch at three in the morning type videos

161.966 - 187.699 Jack Wagner

Yeah. Anyway, so this this is a major like like this book is a major puzzle piece to this becoming big. And a lot of theories pop up surrounding Zozo from this book. That was a bit of a monologue for me. But I think we should dive into some of the other theories of like what people think this they call him Zozo, the Ouija board demon. Like, what do they think he is?

188.709 - 200.054 JC Dentun

Right. Also, I think it's worth pointing out that a majority of the stories that I looked into did happen. You're right. When around the time or after it was published. So it's interesting that that kind of spread. Yeah.

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