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OverDrive - April 8, 2026 - Hour 1 - Steve Sands

08 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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This hour of Overdrive is powered by FanDuel. FanDuel, bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score.

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7.986 - 26.68 Jamie McLennan

Alright, here we go. Overdrive off and running. TSN 1050 on the TSN app. Your home smart speaker up on TSN 5, up on YouTube Live. Brian Hazio, Doug Jeff O'Neill, Jamie Noodles McLennan. What's going on today? What's going on? How are we feeling this afternoon?

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I'm feeling great. I'm feeling great, too, because my day started with a man cave tour. And do you know who was the tour leader?

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38.503 - 41.629 Jamie McLennan

No idea.

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Ronnie Pooleus. dookie's dad wow i had to go to dookie's house to grab something dookie was nice enough to grab something from my dressing room and i went to pick it up and big ronnie was at the front door and he said oh dog come here i gotta show you the man cave and i could see dookie out of the corner of my eye He was worried. He was worried.

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He's like, I don't know if he wants to go down there. And Big Ronnie took me down there. All kinds of hockey pictures, great pictures, every great leaf that's ever played. Like figurines, hockey statues. Awesome.

82.942 - 83.843 Jamie McLennan

Wow, what a legend.

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What a legend Ronnie is.

85.625 - 91.293 Jamie McLennan

I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised. I mean, Doogie is a legend, and he's one of the best guys you're ever going to meet.

Chapter 2: What are the latest updates on Alex Ovechkin's career?

126.98 - 151.636 Jamie McLennan

And I think tomorrow we're actually going to measure you. Noodles, you and I also were getting up there. A couple of different things, because you mentioned Doogie and his dad. And I remember when we first met Doogie, he said, yeah, I used to watch and listen growing up. It always kind of strikes a bit of a chord when someone says that. And I did a podcast this morning with Luca and Marco.

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151.736 - 158.068 Jamie McLennan

Shout out, Luca and Marco. And Luca at the end said, hey, you're kind of the voice of my childhood. And I was like.

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Oh, man. No way.

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160.491 - 173.226 Jamie McLennan

Yeah. He's like, yeah, me and my dad, we used to listen. I'm like, I know I'm older, but I'm that old that we're like officially, there's new people coming into the business. Yeah. They're like, yeah, I remember listening to you.

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You're to that guy what Joe Bowen is to you.

175.83 - 186.823 Jamie McLennan

Exactly. Exactly. Exactly that. That's precisely what it is. Tom Cheek, Jerry Howard, Joe Bowen. That's exactly what I guess I represent.

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So they said to you, like, can you imagine if somebody was a day-wonner for Brian Hayes? I mean, you've been doing it, what, 15 years, right?

195.109 - 204.402 Jamie McLennan

15, yeah. 15 at TSN. All three of us. I mean, it wasn't just me. Let me clarify that. It's not like he wasn't listening to the two of you guys go on and on for 15 years.

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No, but, like, we would go for an hour, and then you would be sitting there and – Arguing with yourself. I remember you would throw out a comment and then you would argue with it. Yeah, he was the Alonzo mourning me. He was the Alonzo mourning me when he's on the bench and he shakes his head and then he goes, yeah.

Chapter 3: How are the Maple Leafs preparing for their matchup against the Capitals?

333.149 - 343.5 Jamie McLennan

I'll bring it up a little bit later on. But, yeah, we got a big one today because the Leafs are in action. And Alex Ovechkin, there is a chance this is the last time he's in town.

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My buddy was down there for the morning skate to see a friend of his. And he said there was a ton of people down there. And I'm like, is this going to be his last trip into that building? Never know.

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357.319 - 361.486 Jamie McLennan

He said today or an interview that came out today, he'll figure it out in the summer.

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Never know.

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362.608 - 383.343 Jamie McLennan

Never know. I can't imagine the NHL loves that. Wouldn't you want to know with an icon like this? What is your call? What move are you going to make? Ah. I don't think Jerry's wheeling in the dressing room with his sneakers saying, hey, we kind of need an answer in a week. It's not about that. That's not my point. I'm saying in a perfect world, you build it up.

383.363 - 404.093 Jamie McLennan

A guy like that, because he might send an email in July, I'm done, guys. I'm not coming back. All right, we missed the opportunity. Like Kopitar, who's a very good player. And a Hall of Fame player. Nowhere close to the stature of Ovechkin. Like, not even close in terms of significance to the game, greatness. Obviously, in L.A., he means a ton.

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He's gotten a Mariano Rivera tradition. Huge.

407.277 - 421.015 Jamie McLennan

Like, the full handshakes after the game. Let's do pictures and swap jerseys. Like, Ovi would be getting it on a completely different level. That's my point about him kind of acknowledging it before they get to the offseason.

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Who did it? Was it Tim Duncan that kind of just went away? Who was the most famous? Was it Tim Duncan that just said, I'm done type of thing?

Chapter 4: What insights does Steve Sands provide about the Masters Tournament?

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Nine goals. It was low, right? Ovechkin's still scoring. He's still doing OV things. Until he realizes he can't do it or figures out that maybe the game has just passed him by, I don't think it's passed him by. I still think he has a role in it right now.

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492.157 - 511.17 Jamie McLennan

Well, I mean, clearly he scored 30-plus. He's a one-dimensional player now, right? Like, when he came into the league, he was a cross between Eric Lindros and Brett Hull. Like, I don't even know how to explain what that cat was like when he... stepped into the league at 20 years old. It was absurd.

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511.871 - 532.913 Jamie McLennan

You guys were in the league watching him and playing against him, and he could still score, he could still rip home pucks, but he never is in his own end. If it's a defensive play, Carberry's like, please get off the ice. If he gets caught out there on an icing or something, it's panic-inducing. So he's not as reliable anymore.

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532.893 - 553.416 Jamie McLennan

But he was one of the all-time got-to-see-him-play players rolling through Toronto. I recall as a kid, it was always, obviously, when the Oilers were in town, you could kind of feel it. Even when I was really young, you're like, Gretzky's here, and Messier's here, and Coffey's here. And then when Lindros rolled through, and Lemieux rolled through, and...

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553.396 - 566.241 Jamie McLennan

You know, Sid, Ovi, McDavid, there's not a lot of guys that, like, really, really move the needle to the point of, like, I have to see them. I got to be in the building. And Ovi's been one of those guys for 20 years.

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Oh, I remember. I think we've had this argument, and this is how funny it is to look back on it now. The year that Ovi scored 32, we were like, he's done. Do you remember? He was going 60 into 50, and he had an off season where he had 30. I think it was 32. And I remember on our show going like... That's it.

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Well, let's be sure, Jamie, because the year he scored 32 might have been the shortest season.

593.494 - 619.332 Jamie McLennan

Well, that's when he broke back out, though. So it was before the 2012-13 lockout. It was the 10-11, 11-12 season, I think, Noodles, that you're referencing, where he was back-to-back years of 32 and 34 goals. 38. Yeah, and remember, he was the highest paid player in the league by a mile back then. It was $10 million, $10.5 million, and the cap was like $40 million or something.

619.352 - 630.025 Jamie McLennan

He was making so much money. And then the lockout, he won the heart that year. He scored 29 goals or something in 48 games.

Chapter 5: What are the expectations for Scottie Scheffler's performance this season?

630.686 - 641.121 Jamie McLennan

It was something crazy. And then after that, he just launched right back into winning Rockets and scoring 50-plus and winning. being a dominant figure. That was early in his career, too.

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You're right. So I'm looking at it right now. He went from 65 to 56 to 50, then 32 in 79 games, then 38. And I remember we would have these debates. It's like, ah, you know, it's close and might not make it. You know, like he's in a declining asset. And then he'd just come back 32-51, 53-50. Like, this guy's been an ageless wonder. That's why I think he's playing another year. I really do.

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667.984 - 689.116 Jamie McLennan

I hope he does. You know, why not? I mean, keep it rolling. And you see the line that they're putting together tonight with the Protas brothers, like the younger brothers up and playing. And they're putting him on a line, the younger Protas, with his brother and Tom Wilson. So the three of them, the average size is like 6'5", 242 or something.

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Imagine in practice doing a down low battle drill three on three with those animals.

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694.405 - 696.909 Jamie McLennan

Gross. Gross. Gross.

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What would you pick? Because there's two different evils, and, Hayes, you're a defenseman. Would you take those monsters? Or would you take like the ultra-skilled fast guy that could turn on a dime? What would be worse to defend?

711.062 - 713.725 Jamie McLennan

Okay, so let me break down my answer for you.

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I know you have a lazy trick for both species.

717.91 - 734.415 Jamie McLennan

I do, but it also depends on the mood of the coach and the team. Oh, yeah. If we've lost five in a row, give me the small skill guy all day. Because if the coach is – I've been in this spot. I know you guys have been. where it was like the coach is losing it.

Chapter 6: How does Rory McIlroy aim to achieve back-to-back wins?

763.497 - 766.141 Jamie McLennan

But you're right. You can be in tough either way.

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Dude, I had a drill. We had the same situation, practice rink in Montreal.

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and paul maurice first drill gets everyone at center ice and he said make two lines and i'm dumping the puck in the corner and you gotta go battle for it one-on-one and i'm checking off down the list of who i am gonna get and i look over there and it's the grim reaper all right Stu Grimson. Stu Grimson, the Grim Reaper, is my guy.

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And I'm like, I am in no mood to deal with the Grim Reaper right now. He dumps the puck in. I go in, and I knock the Reaper down, and I scored. And he came after me, and I'll never thank Kelly Chase enough for this. He skated after me and was going to kill me. And Chaser stepped in the middle and said, Stu, you can't do this. And I just skated away, and I said, oh, my God.

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Because if Chaser didn't do that, I was a dead man. Like, dead man.

829.764 - 836.272 Jamie McLennan

Yeah. Like, what a mentality that is. Yeah. Like, what kind of a working environment is that?

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Well, dude, we talk about these guys being wussies all the time. When me and Jamie were playing, if a guy was a healthy scratch, like a veteran defenseman that's been around for 10 years or something, automatic, you knew that that guy, I knew anyway, that that guy was going to get in a fight the next practice. Yeah.

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Because he had to show the coach how pissed off he was and that you better put him back in the lineup. You didn't go near him. You're right. You didn't mess with him. Believe me, that was my life. I skated with the healthy scratches. I gave them a target to shoot at. They were the most owly people you've ever... You want to talk about having an attitude.

Chapter 7: What challenges do players face at Augusta National?

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And those guys were pissed off all the time. So you're right. Oh, man. It's too grim. Dude, one of the best fights I've ever seen in my life was Rick Sison, a.k.a. Enrico Ciccone and the Grim Reaper. Center ice, toe-to-toe, and it was the best practice fight I've ever seen. The Grim Reaper, Rick Sison. Center ice. Wow. Rick Sison. And Rico Ciccone, he was tough, man. He was a dirty bastard, too.

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That guy was racky with his stick. Like he skated with a hook on the end.

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922.232 - 925.957 Jamie McLennan

You're racky. You are a twin to racky. That's the best part.

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Yeah, you had a beard, though. That's the thing. You had racky's beard.

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928.721 - 929.201 Jamie McLennan

You looked like racky.

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That's what it was. There were some players you think about. I love just walking down memory lane. I'm in the rinks all the time. You run into a player who's a scout now. You think about, oh, that guy was an absolute lunatic. I ran into a player yesterday in the airport. Remember Rico Fata?

948.322 - 952.569 Jamie McLennan

Yes, of course. Yeah, he was a great player from the Sioux, Rico Fava.

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Yeah, what a great guy.

953.991 - 965.428 Jamie McLennan

And his brother Drew played in the league a little bit, too. Yeah. Remember, he was at the World Juniors in Winnipeg, I think it was. Luongo was in net. Because he was a really good, really fast player.

Chapter 8: What impact does weather have on the Masters Tournament?

974.242 - 995.305 Jamie McLennan

god that guy could skate that's all i can remember really good great player really good player and uh yeah no you're right though i mean it's the more you the more you go the the more players are going to filter in and out of the game right and it's a obviously a different world today than it was 20 or 30 years ago but we'll see what happens with ovi and and with the leafs and

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995.285 - 1021.427 Jamie McLennan

It's interesting with the Leafs. They're obviously just trying to buy their time and get to a finish line here. They're not really playing any kids. It's been kind of deja vu. Every day has felt very similar for a couple of weeks in terms of more conversations about the big picture instead of the kind of small picture. But it is starting to dawn on, I think, everyone that,

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1021.677 - 1043.584 Unknown

nine years of them going to the playoffs this is a foreign feeling you know it was you've got montreal going ottawa with another huge win last night massive what a massive win from the sense they played great last night they did you were between the benches noodles like you must notice a big difference like one of the things i can remember being at a game doing the panel and like

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Timmy Stu and a bunch of them would backhand sauce in their own zone, intercepted. And I talked about Timmy Stu being firm on his stick and having the blade. Even that play right there, that's a nice assertive pass. He's just stronger on his stick. And it's like those younger guys have got it and they understand the competition and what it takes to get it done. I mean, they still got work to do.

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But, man, what a nice win last night. That was awesome. And you know what? You got to give flowers to their goaltender. He stood in there. He played great. And he got the job done. And that's what's expected of him. And I was disappointed a couple weeks ago or last week when he didn't play in Tampa. But he got his ass in that net. I think he's played five or six in a row.

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And he's gotten the job done. So good on him. You're right. My opening to the show yesterday, to our broadcast, was their leaders have delivered. And it started in net where Lena Solmark played back-to-back games on the weekend and has really stood in there giving them an opportunity. Kachuk is an animal. Brady has come to play every night. You mentioned Tim Stutzler.

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He's a superstar, and he's started to figure out, and I think he's done it over the last couple of years, but how good he is, his spacing, what he needs to do to dig in. And Jake Sanderson, man, like this guy is.

1122.403 - 1128.37 Jamie McLennan

Getting him back is so huge. Whoa. Such a great player. So good.

1128.39 - 1152.601 Unknown

You know, so it was, yeah, and it was a great game. It was 1-1 going in the third. Like it ended up 6-2. It was 1-1. I think Tampa ran out of gas. They played the night before. You're missing Sorelli. You're missing Hagel. You know, the big cat didn't play Vasilevsky. You're missing Hedman. Like they are kind of limping a little bit. They've got Montreal head-to-head tomorrow night.

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