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OverDrive - January 28, 2026 - Hour 1

28 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What happened in the Maple Leafs' recent game against the Sabres?

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8.241 - 10.685 Jeff O'Neill

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15.233 - 20.441 Jeff O'Neill

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38.416 - 54.115 Bryan Hayes

All right, here we go. Overdrive off and running. TSN 1050 on the TSN app. Your home smart speaker up on TSN 5. Soon to be TSN 4 up on YouTube Live. We're everywhere. Brian Hays, the O-Dog, Jeff O'Neill, Jamie Noodles, McLennan.

54.576 - 54.996 Jamie McLennan

What's going on?

54.976 - 56.3 Bryan Hayes

How are we feeling?

Chapter 2: What are the current issues with the Maple Leafs' roster?

93.198 - 118.581 Bryan Hayes

Puerto Rico how is he like is there different levels of guys coming back like it was I guess Kepka just do whatever you want and the other guys you got to do other stuff yeah there are four guys they targeted Kepka DeChambeau Rahm and Smith basically you guys can come back because you've won two or you've won majors I think it was effectively what it was and Reed is very selective because he has won a major as we know he's got a green jacket he'll be at Augusta

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118.628 - 140.127 Bryan Hayes

He'll be at Augusta, DP World Tour, and that is uplifting. I'm in agreement with you on that. I like the fact that Patty Reed is coming back, and maybe the Raptors are kicking tires on Giannis. There's a lot of distractions in town right now. We've got earthquakes, an earthquake, which I thought was very fitting after the Leaf game last night.

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140.167 - 147.354 Jamie McLennan

Did you feel it, though? I didn't. I had people send me notes going, did you feel that? I'm like, no, I didn't feel that. At all.

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147.954 - 174.538 Bryan Hayes

So I had an experience last night. You didn't feel the earthquake. No, it was my wife that played the hero move. So we were upstairs watching a movie, and something started rattling in the house. And I didn't know what it was, and naturally I was going to check. I got the tap, like, go check what's going on. So I got up and looked around. I'm like, as far as I know, Nothing.

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174.598 - 193.017 Bryan Hayes

I don't know what that was. Like, I heard it too. Something was rattling. Something was going on with the house. And, you know, I come back to bed. I said, I don't know. I don't know what to tell you. Maybe there's someone in the house, but I don't know. You know, I don't know what's going on here. So, you know, resume play, shut the mill down, wake up the next morning.

193.182 - 204.176 Bryan Hayes

And I get woken up with my wife going right at me, it was an earthquake, and I knew it was an earthquake. Oh, yeah. Of course you knew. Of course you knew it was an earthquake.

204.757 - 205.598 Jamie McLennan

Scientist, obviously.

205.618 - 212.187 Bryan Hayes

Yes. Hearing a little rattle down the hall immediately, she always knew it was an earthquake.

212.369 - 213.011 Jamie McLennan

I love it.

Chapter 3: How did the players perform during the recent homestand?

234.003 - 236.506 Jamie McLennan

Fan base jumping off the bus all at once.

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236.646 - 239.449 Bryan Hayes

Caused an earthquake last night. Pissed off.

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239.469 - 259.69 Jamie McLennan

Caused an earthquake. I mean, I was saying to everyone on the panel, I said, what's this guy going to be like tomorrow? Because I tell people, you are the pulse of Leaf Nation. Tell me what is going on. Because I know how I feel. Oh, you're going to share your feelings? Hayes, what do you feel?

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259.71 - 287.027 Bryan Hayes

Well, I mean, there's nothing positive to feel, if that's what you're asking. There's nothing positive. No, not at all. It was as terrible of a homestand as you could possibly have. I think Mark Masters tweeted out last night, that's the worst homestand since 84-85. Wow. Yeah. Only the third homestand of five or more games where they went winless through all of them.

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287.368 - 313.996 Bryan Hayes

Both of the other homestands were in 84-85. We know what happened that spring. They drafted Wendell Clark first overall. That's how awful the Leafs were in 84-85. So when you are doing something at home... That can only be compared to the 84-85 Leafs. It's really sickening and pretty awful. And unfortunately, it was somewhat predictable. I mean, that was the game.

314.076 - 332.283 Bryan Hayes

I think after they got beat up by Vegas, got beat up by Colorado, they had their little leaders meeting and all that. They got their doors blown off last night. I didn't think Wall played great, obviously, but Buffalo was better. They outshot them, outchanced, everything across the board.

333.364 - 342.175 Bryan Hayes

And, yeah, I think ultimately you're eight points out of the playoffs and they're just not a very good team right now. They're not a very good team.

342.593 - 343.695 Jamie McLennan

Oh, what did you make of it?

344.878 - 357.767 Jeff O'Neill

You know what? It just seems like the way the schedule is this year and the amount of games, it just seems like if you don't have...

Chapter 4: What changes are needed to improve the Maple Leafs' performance?

421.862 - 440.184 Jeff O'Neill

This ain't working. I don't know why everyone's so bent out of shape that that's more than likely the outcome here. It's like – and I found it weird. I heard Craig Button saying the window of, like, contending – Did they really contend? Is that what they did the last nine years? Were they contenders? They won two rounds.

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440.564 - 444.469 Bryan Hayes

Well, you could psych yourself into believing it. They were a really good team.

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445.33 - 465.295 Jeff O'Neill

You know what? Like five or six of those years, they were like the Stanley Cup favorite right after the guy hoisted the Stanley Cup. The next year, the Leafs are Stanley Cup favorites. They won two rounds. Now these guys are not exactly in their prime anymore, so I don't really know what the expectation would be at this stage of the game.

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465.275 - 486.89 Jeff O'Neill

So it's all going to come down to who's got the stones to make the proper assessment and say, even if this team does get in the playoffs, they would get shellacked by somebody. Shellacked. So I don't know who's going to make that call. Like, it's just, I don't know. The Boston Bruins did it. I'm pretty sure the Toronto Maple Leafs should be doing it.

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486.91 - 498.37 Jeff O'Neill

And there was talk yesterday, maybe just like another Stetcher type move. Wrong, wrong, wrong. Like another Troy Stetcher type of nibbling around the edges move is not going to do anybody any good.

498.957 - 522.581 Jamie McLennan

No, I'll admit, I was the guy who said it, or at least alluded to it. What I'm saying is, if I had to circle one thing that is a problem with the Leafs, if you just said, hey, their D aren't good enough, I'm sorry. The whole team isn't, Jamie. I understand, but you know what? Austin Matthews had a goal and assist last night, I believe, or maybe goal and two. He looked like he was buzzing.

522.621 - 537.063 Jamie McLennan

If they could keep it out of their net, they scored four goals last I don't think their D are good enough. They don't get out of their zone. They get hemmed in their zone. They get running around. They had some bad bounces. The first three goals, they gave up four goals in the first period.

537.183 - 539.066 Bryan Hayes

One got called back. Office skate, office stick.

539.086 - 540.488 Jamie McLennan

Three went off their own D, man.

Chapter 5: What are the implications of the Canadiens firing their goaltending coach?

540.728 - 553.596 Jamie McLennan

But my point being is, if you look at that D core as a whole, Where would you think they would fit throughout the league? Would they be the top? Would they be the middle? Or would they be the bottom third?

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554.016 - 576.348 Bryan Hayes

Well, it's very clear it's the bottom third. I mean, that's a rhetorical question, Noodles. We all know the answer. And we definitely know the answer without Chris Tanev. The fact is, Tanev's their best defenseman, and he's out. Nylander is probably their best... at creating offense on his own. And he's out and has been out for a while.

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576.408 - 598.007 Bryan Hayes

And prior to being out, he was playing maybe the worst hockey of his career. So those two guys are going to have a factor on things. But, yes, I agree with you, Noodles. And I think what's happened this year is a lot of the guys that we're relying on They've just taken a big step back because of where they are in their careers. Maybe it's the scheduling, which points to what you're saying.

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598.087 - 602.212 Bryan Hayes

Oh, it's just it's too much hockey and too condensed of a schedule for these guys.

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602.232 - 604.875 Jeff O'Neill

I know, but the follow-up to that is you're just not good enough.

604.956 - 605.296 Bryan Hayes

I agree.

605.376 - 608.92 Jeff O'Neill

If the schedule dictates that you just can't keep up, then you're not good enough.

609.161 - 631.248 Bryan Hayes

I totally agree. I think I look at this team without any conversation about – Retool, rebuild, all that kind of stuff. Just breaking down the roster. Matthews, Nylander, and Nyes up front. Nyes has had a struggling year because of the injury. It's just been a bad year. It just hasn't worked for him. But I still believe in him as a player. He's a young guy. I think he's a really good player.

631.268 - 648.732 Bryan Hayes

I think he's a superstar, but I think he's a really good player. I think Matthews, Nylander, and Nyes are really good players. I think in net... You've got to figure out who your two guys are going to be. Wohl, Stolarz, Hildeby. I don't know if you're ever going to trust that they're going to stay healthy. It's a legitimate conversation.

Chapter 6: How is Patrick Reed's return to the PGA Tour impacting golf discussions?

716.023 - 725.233 Jeff O'Neill

You look at Minnesota coming, or even like the Vegas Golden Knights. It's like they go from Eichel to Stone to Hurdle to Marner to Barbashev.

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725.253 - 725.954 Jamie McLennan

Dorothea.

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726.014 - 735.265 Jeff O'Neill

Dorothea. Colasar sneaks in. Colasar, yeah. It's like they're impact players that all do different things, and it's – There's just too big of a drop-off, and you're exactly right, Brian.

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735.305 - 756.856 Jamie McLennan

But you know what? You're 100% right. Like, we can sit and pick apart. But they just went and got Rasmus Anderson, who's a top-pairing defenseman. They've got Noah Hannafin, who's a top-pairing defenseman. They've got Shea Theodore as a top-pairing. Like, they've got three potential, call it ones or soft ones, you name it. Those three, where would they be on the Leafs?

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756.916 - 780.742 Jamie McLennan

They'd be their best defensemen. That's my point. So, again, I'm not just saying, oh, it's all this, it's all that. But you don't have a chance. I had somebody say to me the other day, if you want to evaluate the Ottawa Senators as a team, how do you evaluate them when you're not getting the saves that you need? If you want to evaluate this Leafs team, when they're 100% healthy, What are they?

780.822 - 802.232 Jamie McLennan

They're probably middle of the pack. They're going to be fighting with all of these other teams we've mentioned. They're not healthy, and now they've been decimated, and some of their players aren't playing that well. So you're like, now you are where you are, and even if you believe, I think the Leafs aren't this bad, and I don't think they're as good as 8-0-2. They were somewhere in there.

802.392 - 828.964 Bryan Hayes

But here's the thing, though, Noodles. This is the most important thing. scouting decision. There is a difference between not playing well and can't play well anymore. That's true. And it's a huge difference. And that is ultimately going to, that has to be determined here. And, you know, I'll give you a couple of examples of like pillars of the organization. One forward, one defenseman.

829.745 - 852.574 Bryan Hayes

John Tavares and Morgan Rielly. Are they just not playing well because the schedule, it's an awful year, everything has fallen apart, maybe they're dealing with some injuries, and it's like, you know, I can trust them that they'll get better, or can they just not do it anymore? Because if it's the latter, you have a big problem.

852.954 - 853.294 Jamie McLennan

Correct.

Chapter 7: What are the expectations for the Raptors regarding Giannis?

910.049 - 930.726 Bryan Hayes

You know, if they hand over the sixth or seventh or eighth pick overall to Boston and they don't even have their first-round pick at the end of this rainbow that you can look to, right? And that's another story that we can get to. But, you know, at the end of the day, they need to make that determination. Is Jake McCabe just not – is he a five now? You know, is that what it is?

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931.006 - 953.252 Bryan Hayes

Is there a scenario where you can – Is Nick Waugh a part of the future? I don't know. These are all questions you're not going to get answers today or tonight or tomorrow or between now and the Olympic break, but it's imperative they get them right. They've got to get the answers right because if you get them wrong,

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953.232 - 977.046 Bryan Hayes

and you say, you know what, chalk it up to a crazy year, and it's not a crazy year. It's actually just the beginning of more erosion. It'll be worse next year and the year after that. Yeah, realistic, Brian. It's pivotal. They get it right, the evaluation of who they have, what they have, what they need, and it's got to be a quick pivot. It's not easy work.

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977.397 - 983.864 Bryan Hayes

Not easy because Buffalo's not stopping. Detroit's not stopping. Those teams are not going to slow down and let the Leafs catch up.

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984.244 - 1006.508 Jeff O'Neill

Saying it's a crazy year is just another version of writing a letter to your fans. I think it's just a cop-out. Why isn't it a crazy year for the Colorado Avalanche? Yeah, Carolina's doing it again, and Tampa's doing it again. Yeah, it's just like, so what? This year was crazy for us? I hear you. I think it's just a cop-out, man. Like, it's just... Just do not ignore what you're seeing out there.

1006.668 - 1020.632 Jeff O'Neill

And if you think somehow you could get this group of players on the ground and give it CPR in the summertime and they're going to be back to life next year, I can't see how anyone in this industry would think that. I really can't.

1021.193 - 1037.196 Bryan Hayes

To be clear, I don't know. I think they need to really figure this out. And listen, I don't love, like we'll play the Berube clip. Why don't we play it on the defense and the goaltender. Here's what Craig said after the game about what needs to be cleaned up.

1041.542 - 1061.609 Craig Berube

What did I learn about him? Well, that we got to keep the puck out of our net is what I learned. And we didn't do that here at home, other than the Detroit game. It's the only game we did. But until we decide to do things right and keep the puck out of our net, and that's the goalies included... This is what you're going to get. We scored enough goals on this homestand to win games.

1062.751 - 1081.857 Craig Berube

But we didn't keep the puck out of our net. Until you want to keep the puck out of your net. And that's a couple things. Managing the game. Puck play. Don't give odd man rushes up. Defend harder than we are. More desperation in defending. And goalies stop the puck. That's it.

Chapter 8: What are the future challenges for the Maple Leafs as the season progresses?

1115.933 - 1136.038 Jamie McLennan

We saw it. They're a fast team. They've got skill. They might be the Leafs from three, four years ago. Like, that's the way I looked at it. Like, that team, looking at that team last night, that Buffalo team's got a few guys that really can dominate play, and they've got speed, and they play, you know, and the goaltender makes saves. I don't know what Craig was trying to say last night.

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1136.299 - 1142.286 Jamie McLennan

Like, you know, read between the lines, or just is it simple as we're not defending well enough and our goalies aren't making saves?

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1142.418 - 1155.715 Bryan Hayes

Well, I mean, it's just such a – to me, like, you know, it's an empty calorie statement in a way. Like, obviously you want to defend more, but you're 53 games in. And again, it's like, can they?

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1156.216 - 1168.914 Jeff O'Neill

Yeah, maybe they're just not good enough. I said it last night about the Rangers when they wheeled through town, Hayes. It's like – They were garbage. And I'm like, maybe they're just not a good team. And that's maybe just the assessment you've got to get to.

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1170.436 - 1198.719 Bryan Hayes

Unfortunately. I can't do 29 games of no effort. Look at their numbers. They're 32nd in shots against, 32nd in slot shots, 32nd in rush chances. Dead last in every single category. That would speak to a lack of ability and the coach not being able to figure it out. Now, that coach cannot get this team to top five in those numbers. No coach ever could.

1199.5 - 1213.6 Bryan Hayes

But I think Craig Berube is, again, I feel like deja vu where we were a month and a half ago. Doesn't he have to take some responsibility for this? He's a coach. They're dead last in everything the coach is responsible for. How they stop...

1213.968 - 1238.355 Bryan Hayes

getting you know how do you give up 30 second and rush chances slot chances well the 31st in cycle chances is that the mike kelly tweet like yes but it's not a tweet it's not an opinion noodles it's no no it's facts it's sport logic i guess it's a dead fact yeah so i guess what i'm saying is like i'm not ecstatic with the goalies the coaches the the players but i think that you know craig

1238.892 - 1259.121 Bryan Hayes

Berube has done a lot of, like, not my problem. A lot of, not my call. Go talk to that guy. Until we do this. Well, what are you doing to get them to do it? Like, is he doing anything? Are they changing anything? Their pairs are always the same. He's got Matthews, you know, like Domi and McMahon on that line. They just can't defend. Unfortunately, they can't.

1259.803 - 1262.648 Jamie McLennan

They can't defend. They're not top-line players.

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