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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Hour 2 Overdrive continues, powered by FanDuel. We've got a big hour here. Justin Williams coming up. Mr. Game 7 himself ahead of the cup final. We will play the clip from Kent Hughes. We'll get to that momentarily where Mitch Marner came up somehow at a Montreal Canadiens end-of-season presser. So we'll get to that.
Chapter 2: What are the key highlights of the Hurricanes' journey to the Stanley Cup Final?
Don't you find that bizarre? Yeah.
I find it quite bizarre. I find it quite bizarre. Why don't we just play it? Let's just play it.
Go for it, dude.
So the question was, effectively, any concern about your star players? Because Cole Caulfield was not great. To his credit, he came out today and said, I sucked. That's his quote. Just owned it. Quite frankly, I sucked. And he did. He wasn't good. Slavkovsky wasn't any good. Suzuki wasn't great. I thought Lane Hudson really struggled in the cup final.
But they're all relatively young guys, and they didn't play well. So Kent Hughes, the GM, was asked about it, and here is how he answered that question.
you know being here in canada it's going to be a little bit of the narrative going into the cup final that there was that belief that certain players in toronto underperformed in the playoffs and one season doesn't necessarily one playoff season wouldn't necessarily reflect another and i think mitch marner is sitting atop of the the playoff scoring race and it's not just what he's doing offensively it's how he's contributing to their team being where they are
And if we look around at the three series that we had or the three teams that we played against in the playoffs, it wasn't necessarily their top scorers that were their top scorers, including Carolina, right? I think it's been offensively driven more by Stankov and Blake and Hall, and that wasn't necessarily the case in the regular season. So we just got to get better, period.
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Chapter 3: What insights does Justin Williams share about the team's performance?
What does that mean? What's he saying there?
What he's saying is you... Here's how it goes. He's protecting his guys and saying, yes, in his head he knows that these guys... When the player comes out and says, I stunk, they stunk. But what happens is... He's deflecting attention away from them and he's using Mitch Marner as an example and he's using other players stepping up in the playoffs.
One of his own guys, Josh Anderson, wasn't like a go-to guy during the regular season. Damn good in the playoffs. But what happens is there's one cycle of the playoffs where some of your guys weren't good. But If they get into the playoffs again next year and they see the same kind of tendencies, then all of a sudden you're looking like, do we have a problem with winning with this guy?
That's how quickly things can escalate. Year one, leave that guy alone. It's not a problem. If it happens again and again, which... happened here in toronto the same guys we were saying are they ever going to show up in the big moments and do it no no no no no and the answer was just no all the time but they just kept wheeling them back out there how much sense could that possibly make
Yeah, I got that he was trying to deflect a little bit and say in other markets, in other situations there have been like that. But I agree. Oh, I think it's, you can have it for a one-off here or there. And keep in mind, like Montreal was in the playoffs last year. You know, they exited pretty quick.
But at the end of the day, like they're, you know, like Suzuki and Caulfield, didn't they play the Leafs here? Yeah, 21. Yeah, they did, yeah. So they have some experience. It's taking time. But I got from that, as he was pointing, you don't want this to be habitual. You can chalk it up to like a one-year type of thing, but you can't have this year after year.
And you can't have the cliche nightly in the National Hockey League that is your best players got to be your best players and then come playoff time and have it, oh, don't look at those guys. We need other guys contributing. Yeah. The cliche is applicable at all times, most importantly come playoff time.
So I understand he's trying to deflect, protect his guys, but it can't be every night of the year. Best players got to be your best players, and then all of a sudden it's like, well, don't blame them. They just were off a little bit and need other guys to contribute.
I do find ā and Brian, I know you want to weigh in. I do find it a bit weird that he went to Toronto, like he went to Mitch ā here's a prime example, Mitch Marner. You can find other examples. Well, it's one that ā like this whole playoff has been the Mitch Marner show. Like that's ā everyone's talking about Mitch Marner.
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Chapter 4: How do the Spurs and Knicks compare as they prepare for the NBA Finals?
Celebrini's going to get it at some point. Hey, you've got to prove you can be a playoff performer. You're not just granted that. You've got to prove you can do it. You're right. There's 31 teams that are disappointed. Just different layers of disappointment. Somebody's going to go home, whether it's Vegas or Carolina, is going to fall short of their goal.
But I do see, you know, there is, if you fail in the playoffs, and what I mean by fail, if you don't show up, like Cole Caulfield said, I sucked. He's a damn good player who had 51 goals this year. He had a great season, but he wasn't the prolific goal scorer in the playoffs where the game gets a lot tighter. He's still a hell of a player, but you don't want it to become a narrative.
It's like, geez, you know, and I don't look at it that way because they did make it to the conference final. If they lose in the first round next year, like then you're going, geez, can these guys do it because they've taken a step back.
Jamie, Lane Hudson, who had a terrific year himself, I believe his comment after was we weren't really close and we know it.
Well, that's accurate. They got that first game. And to their credit, they showed up ready to play, and Carolina wasn't. They steamrolled Carolina. Beyond that, like, it was not close. Two games went to overtime, and they were a bounce away from really being up 3-0.
I've had that series before. You win the first one and then absolutely get crushed, and you're like, we won.
And, like, game five was, like, embarrassing. Like, they got demolished by Carolina. Demolished. Like, absolutely demolished by Carolina. So... You know, it was a good season, but it ends on a bit of a sour note if you're in Montreal. But obviously, if you're in Carolina, you're going back to the dance, right? Back to another cup final.
They won the Stanley Cup 20 years ago, went to a cup final, what was that, 24 years ago against Detroit? Oh, you were on that team. And they're back here playing Vegas game one tomorrow night down in Carolina. Here is the special advisor to the GM joining us here on the Maple Toyota Hotline. There's Justin Williams. How are we doing, Willie?
i'm doing great lately that sticker on all every time i come on it just a little snicker from like he's disapproving like he's disappointed and i i can't take you seriously with all the cops and i think that uh... lifetime uh... uh... uh... uh... again prep for the cup final what's the vibe like down there Vibe, obviously, pretty good. Today's kind of like a circus, right?
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Chapter 5: What impact does Myles Garrett's trade to the Rams have on the NFL landscape?
And they've been able to get teams kind of on the mat and just kind of stepped on them a little bit and not let them up. Just keeping them down on the ground. It's like when someone's on the ground, you try to get up and you push them down on the ground and they just stay down there. It's like we've honestly been doing that with our team so far. But we know this is a...
Vegas is a whole other animal.
What do you think's been working up front? I know that Taylor Hall line's been incredible for you guys, Willie, and we were talking earlier about just buying time for other guys. Is it like just they had their moments where they dominated and were producing all the offense, and now you're hoping like the Ajos and Sveshnikovs can chip in and get their game going?
Because it's been complete dominance, and you really haven't had everybody firing in all cylinders.
No, we haven't, but everybody's been pretty good. Obviously, the end line has been kind of borderline dominant, but everyone else has been pretty darn good. And I think when you go back and you look at recent or maybe even older Stanley Cup winners, they're very similar in the fact that You know, they've got, obviously, goalie playing at a high level.
They've got production from every single line. And obviously, we've done that. And quite frankly, there's a little bit of element of luck added into it, too, because you're healthy. Our team's very healthy right now. So that's a real positive, too, going through the playoffs. I mean, you never know.
I mean, you can have a great team, have a couple injuries, and then all of a sudden, you know, you don't look so hot anymore. Right now, everything's been kind of going as planned. We're happy with obviously where things are. It was a good practice today. It was out there and was in the room with the guys, and they're excited just like we all are.
So, Willie, does this team have a little bit of a feel like that 2012 L.A. team?
I mean, other than the record, I mean, I don't know. It's tough to say. You have a feel for it, right? I mean, everyone that's won the Cup, they have those qualities. And us, in years past, we've... having been able to kind of get over the hump. And there's a lot of heartbreak. There's a lot of losses under these guys' wins this year. And I really just feel like they think it's time.
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Chapter 6: What are the latest FanDuel Best Bets for the upcoming games?
That's kind of how things went there, and we had to move on and pivot really quickly. I think that's kind of a trade that worked out for everybody.
Brian dealt with that his whole teenage life, and now he met a beautiful girl that liked him back. I wanted to ask you, we had a question, and Hayes proposed it, Willie. I want to get your thoughts. If you had kind of a blank slate, would you pick the best GM in the league or the best coach? Which one would you pick if you could only pick one?
I would go coach. I would go coach. I'll go coach. I mean, you want me to pick something, I'm going to go coach.
It's your choice.
It's an optional question, man. But I'm going to go coach. I'm going to go coach. I mean, how bad is the GM?
Is he really bad? Exactly. Exactly.
Hang on a sec. Hang on a sec. My philosophy was if you get a great GM, he's going to put all the pieces in place. He's going to bring in the right coach. You know what I mean? The kind of the GM sets the table and brings in the right pieces if you've got a guy that's got half a brain. That's what I'm saying.
I also understand the coach at Carolina is your old line mate, so you had to say coach because you didn't want him to get pissed at you. So that's why you said that.
I think it's not like a manager in baseball. Guys in hockey, they can pull strings and get the pulse of their team and deal with that and make adjustments. I think it's a super important position that we're lucky to have, Roddy.
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Chapter 7: How are the Hurricanes preparing for their matchup against the Golden Knights?
Nuclear. The way he can shoot, the way he defends, the way he moves... And he's got a bull in him, man. He's got some fight. He's up for the fight.
Dude, you know what I loved about the guy Hayes? Nothing about skill or what he brings to the table. His maniacal burning desire to win. He was like, me winning the NBA championship, it is basically all I live for. And I'm like, how can you not love a guy that he's just, every time he puts his sneakers on, that's what he has in mind. And it's like, he's like, this defines me.
And it's all I think about it. I'm like, if you're a fan of that team, you know that that guy's main goal is just straight up winning. It's not about cars, clothes, whatever. It's just that guy wants to win.
Well, and that's the thing. They've got a really, really young team and a really young core, and they all embraced last night, and they're already there. Now, we said the same thing about Oklahoma City a year ago, like literally a year ago. You're like, man, these guys are already here with all these young players.
But it's, you know, these guys, Wemba Nyama and Dylan Harper, who was great last night, that's a high pick. You know, Castle's a really good player, young player. Darren Fox is in his 20s, and he's there. Like, they're loaded. They are loaded, and they're young, and they're already in an NBA final. It's incredible. But I think to answer the question, I'd say Pitt because Mario and Sid ā
have already established what... Those are two of the all-time great players that never went anywhere else. Now, Duncan didn't either. We'll see if Wemby doesn't play. Does he stay with the Spurs? I don't know if that matters, but I would think if you're a Penguin fan, how amazing is that? Lemieux never played anywhere else, and Sid, I don't think, is ever going to play anywhere else.
That's true. It's just incredible. First overall picks, can't miss, two of the four or five greatest players ever.
If you're a life or season ticket holder and you got the opportunity to just roll into the other guy, it's just an incredible run. Think about that viewing experience of greatness. Championships, individual accolades, scoring titles, MVPs. You had a pretty good... You had a pretty damn good time going to Pittsburgh Penguins games for 30 years, man. Yep.
Big time. Yep. And listen, Lemieux and the Pens won their first cup in 91, and Sid won his last one, was it in 17? Yes. I think, which would be about 26 years apart. Same thing with San Antonio. The Spurs won this. Duncan and Robinson won their first one in 99.
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Chapter 8: What strategies are discussed for winning in high-stakes playoff situations?
Jays in Atlanta tomorrow. It's a beautiful thing. Big trades in the NFL. I cannot believe that deal. You talk about a trade. Yeah. Miles Garrett going from Cleveland to Los Angeles.
Oh, my. Do you think he went to them and said, I've had enough, like the joke's over?
I'm a little bit surprised because, remember, he re-signed there a year ago or whatever it was, a year or two ago. I don't care. And took the money. Yeah, I think Cleveland ā is trying to take advantage of the greatest asset they have, thinking we're still a couple years away from turning things around.
Smart move.
Yeah, and I think if you're the Rams, you've got a two-year window. You've got Stafford, I think, for this year and probably next. You've got Garrett for a couple of years where he's still at his height, and you're trying to grab one more Super Bowl. And then you realize after that it might kind of turn and get ugly.
But the Rams were arguably the best team in the league last year, and Seattle got them and Seattle won.
I don't think A.J. Brown surprised anybody with his.
Brown to the Pats, but it puts pressure on Drake May and Mike Vrabel, right? Vrabel with all the offseason stuff. You went to a Super Bowl last year. You got Drake May there. Now you bring in A.J. Brown. That's ownership saying we want to win. Like we think we can get over the top and win here.
You think the dust is ever going to settle on that guy, Vrabel?
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