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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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What a day. What a 24-48 hours if you're big Keith Kachuk. Huh? Like, what a turn of events. Son gets traded to his other son's team. And then he goes into the Hockey Hall of Fame.
Yeah. Wow. Pretty, pretty big stuff. Like, that's just an all-time great 24 hours. Like, they just announced this year's inductees into the Hall of Fame. And Keith Kachuk, who's been waiting for a long time. Yeah. He's been eligible for almost 20 years. And obviously a coincidence. But Brady gets flipped to Florida, which I'm sure Keith is very happy about.
And then the next day he gets a phone call. Now, maybe he flushed it because it was a Canadian number. It was a 416 number.
That's harsh.
Maybe he flushed it. But I'm sure he called back once he listened to the message and found out, hey, I'm going into the Hall of Fame, which means they all got to come up here.
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Chapter 2: What are the implications of Brady Tkachuk's trade to the Florida Panthers?
The Kachuks have to come up.
They got to be in Ontario. Congrats to everybody that got inducted, including our friend Brian Burke. Well-deserved. Very happy for Brian Burke. Patrice Bergeron, Carey Price, Pekka Rene is another one.
That surprised me a little bit, I've got to be honest. Noodle's not here today, so he will have his commentary, and I'm sure he will disagree with my point on that. How Curtis Joseph isn't in there ahead of Pecorino.
No kidding. I have no idea. If the argument Curtis Joseph, like there's no cups or whatever the argument is, and I still believe the number is fourth wins ever from a goaltender, and he's still not in there. So I don't care whatever argument you have that he shouldn't be in there. Curtis Joseph should be in the Hall of Fame, and it's a joke that he's not.
I agree. But congrats to Pekka Rinne.
Yeah, congrats to Pekka Rinne, who just all of a sudden vaulted right over him. Had to get him in. Had to get him in ahead of Curtis Joseph.
Can I just ask you guys about that process? Do you think you just need one person who's boosting your case? And in these meetings, it's like, it has to be Pekka Rinne. Do you think you just need one crazy backer?
Probably someone really good. I think about it like this for Cujo's case. If Pekka Rene had to wait a year and Cujo went in this year and then Pekka Rene the next year, would anyone just be beside themselves saying, I can't believe that he didn't go in ahead? No one. Nobody. Absolutely nobody. Nobody. So I can't figure it out, and it bothers me more year after year.
And we all know the people that are associated. I just strongly disagree that Curtis Joseph, not because I know him, it's just fourth wins all time in goaltending. How many more wins do you got to get?
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Chapter 3: How does the trade affect the Ottawa Senators' roster plans?
The great list. Because there are guys playing right now. You're predicting they're going to have to wait. Yes. Where they're not quite Hall of Famers.
So can I give you a couple that just come to mind for me right away?
Okay, go ahead. I love this game.
I just want to play it now. It's a great game. Brad Marchand.
That's a very good one because I don't know if he's a first ballot guy.
What about Phil Kessel? Phil might be around there.
John Tavares. John, for me, should go in right away. John's a first ballot Hall of Famer for me. He's exceptional status. The juniors, first overall, the points, the production, captain of multiple teams. But you just said like 50. Is he within 10 years? Is he getting in? For me, John Tavares is getting in within the first two or three years.
You're probably right.
Of eligibility. Personally, I think John Tavares, I would put him as a first ballot Hall of Famer. Now, if there's four other, you know, Crosby and Ovechkin, there's other guys, Malkin are all in the same class, then John might have to wait or will probably wait in that scenario. But I think Tavares would get in pretty quickly.
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Chapter 4: What are the reactions to the Hockey Hall of Fame inductees for this year?
Although maybe some of them will have to wait. They will.
Yeah, like some of them will have to wait.
Now, will they wait 15 years, 20 years? That I don't know. You know who, honestly, this is, I think, timely? Brady Kachuk is a great example. Brady might have to wait 15 years. He might not get in. He may not get in. Right now, he's not a Hall of Famer. No. But...
He goes to Florida, wins a cup or two, puts up big numbers, plays until he's 38, and has basically Keith Kachuk's career with a cup or two and a gold medal. I think the gold medal this year for the Americans is going to boost their resume come Hall of Fame voting time 15 years from now.
I heard you guys last week, it's crazy that Brendan Moore's not in. He was a defining player of that era. As a player?
I think he should be a defining player.
He won a cup. He was a great defensive forward. I don't know.
He's not a defining player of the generation.
Okay, defining is maybe too strong. Okay, is it like the tier three?
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Chapter 5: What insights does Darren Raddysh provide about joining the Maple Leafs?
Let's slam the goalies then. I want to get to the Brady Kachuk stuff, but I'll begin with Sergey Bobrovsky to the Maple Leafs. Have you written about that yet? I have not. Because there are some rumors out there that the Leafs could be kicking tires if he's not going to return to Florida.
I have a free agent that I like for the Leafs. He did not make the 10 that I have. Okay, how would you respond, though, if it happened? It depends what the contract is.
Let's say it's reasonable.
Chapter 6: How does playing in Toronto differ from playing in Tampa?
What do you think the contract would be? I have no idea. For argument's sake. Give me an idea what the contract is.
It's three years, $7 million per. Don't like it.
He's old. And he wasn't good last year. The team wasn't good, so I don't know what to make of that. I don't know. I probably wouldn't like that. Just because you have cap space doesn't mean you should spend it stupidly.
Well, I'm nervous about it because he'll be 38 in September.
And I still think Wall can be pretty good. But he's not here. Joseph Wall's not here. I know, but that's part of the exchange that you're going to end up making, right?
I know, but that ship has sailed. You made your decision. Wall is gone.
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Chapter 7: What are the expectations for the Maple Leafs this season?
Okay.
But I understand what you're saying.
You know what I mean? That's the trade you're making?
Well, they've made that choice. But what else is the trade they're going to make? I don't see Stolarz, Hildeby, Akhtiyamov getting them to the playoffs. I think that's tough. I agree.
Be risky. Be risky. Some people were telling me, oh, just run, like, this is the stuff I hear on the streets. Like, just Hildeby and Akhtiyama, that should be the twosome moving forward. It's like, okay, what are we doing here? But you're right. Is it going to be Bobrovsky? I don't know who it's going to be. But there might be some other goaltender coming into the situation.
I think there has to be. And that may include Stolarz going out. But if you're going to replace him, it's someone who you think can start 50 games. I can live with a true number one in Hildeby as your backup. I can't live with Stolarz and Hildeby as your tandem when Stolarz is just not going to start more than 30 games or 35 games. He's just not going to do it.
And then you're relying on 40 to 50 from Hildeby, who I think has potential, but he's a raw, young goaltender in the league. Yes. That's just asking way too much.
Do you guys actually think that the Florida Panthers, like, are willing to try to run it back, and they've just brought in Brady Kachuk. If you look at the way that they're... the configuration of their forward line, pretty stacked. If you want to talk about a forward group and a defensive core that's meant or built to win a championship...
But do you think they're looking at this situation without Bobrovsky in it? Do you not think they're going to make it work with him? Because he's been so important, and I know he did not have a great year, and I know he's older. But if he's not going to be the guy that gets the job done in net, who are they going to get to do the job? Spencer Knight went to Chicago.
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Chapter 8: How do the recent trades impact the future of Canadian teams?
Like if Florida's just like, yeah, I think we're ready to turn the page. To Bob?
Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised. Wouldn't that freak you out a little bit? I mean, we ask the same questions with Radish, right? Like, why would Tampa not?
But it sounds like Tampa was actually talking about bringing him back at a certain number.
Yes, and now maybe Florida's trying to do the same thing. Maybe he's pushing, but I could see there being an issue there where Bob is saying, look what you just did for Brad Marchand. Why did he get that? Yeah. Why did you give him $30 million?
And that always bugs guys, that someone from another organization just walks onto the scene and gets the money, and you've been there battling and winning championships, and it's like, oh, now my contract's a problem? It bothers guys. Totally.
I could see that being a problem. But what I think you're driving at, Owen, I agree with. They have a plan, Bill Zito. They're not winging it and getting to July 5th and saying, uh-oh, we forgot the goaltender. We better call around and see what's out there.
I totally agree with that.
They have a plan. Whether it's Bob coming back. Hellebuck. Hellebuck being acquired. I have no idea how they'd have the pieces to pay for that. But you talk about an explosion where, again, there's a lot of animosity to this Kachuk trade for a variety of reasons.
I don't understand the animosity. You can go ahead and explain what your definition of the animosity is, and I'll give you my thoughts on it.
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