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OverDrive - March 20, 2026 - Hour 2 - Mike Johnson/Ryan Dempster

20 Mar 2026

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Chapter 1: What are the concerns surrounding the Edmonton Oilers this season?

0.132 - 27.878 Aaron Korolnik

second hour of overdrive here on mail it in friday brought to you by fanduel bringing you more ways to play your game your way aaron koronek and dave festruck in for brian jamie and jeff we're on tsn 10 50 and up on tsn's youtube channel you may notice i'm now wearing the headphones and the reason is i almost burned down tsn in our previous segment i used something called an ifb people which is an inner actually i don't know what stands like in your phone

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27.858 - 48.959 Aaron Korolnik

Yeah, it's like when you do TV, you plug it into the thing, and it's more discreet, let's call it. You don't see it necessarily in the air. And I looked down during that last segment, and it was smoking. The plug was smoking. And I would feel very bad going to our bosses, Mike Lane and Stephanie Apolito, and saying, yeah, sorry, I burned down the studio. My bad, guys.

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49.319 - 52.903 Aaron Korolnik

It's a good thing we can work remotely, right? Coronavirus.

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53.305 - 64.191 Dave Feschuk

I don't think that would be well-received. I smelled something burning, and I was like, did one of the guys bring in something from the cafeteria that was kind of a bit stinky, or what was going on here?

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64.211 - 68.14 Aaron Korolnik

I can't even explain how hot this thing is right now. You could cook an egg on this thing.

68.28 - 76.717 Dave Feschuk

Yeah, well, luckily, the side that was smoking... It was the side that was attached to the desk and not the side that was attached to your face.

76.837 - 98.494 Aaron Korolnik

Yeah, that's a good point. That would be a tough way to go. I'd be like Two-Face in the Batman movies. Who was the actor there? Eckhart, Aaron Eckhart. Yeah, that would have been unfortunate. I'm all good, and we're all good here. JP, Alex, the maestros behind the scenes have taken care of me and taken care of the audience. Mike Johnson is going to call in momentarily. Looking forward to that.

98.534 - 109.011 Aaron Korolnik

Ryan Dempster as well. The J season, one week from tonight, Kevin Gosman will tow the rubber against the Athletics. Do they have a city yet? Is it Sacramento? Is it Vegas?

Chapter 2: How should the Toronto Maple Leafs manage Matthew Knies’ injury?

109.071 - 110.514 Aaron Korolnik

Is it Oakland? What are we calling them this year?

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110.574 - 123.677 Dave Feschuk

They're playing in Sacramento, but... They are the Athletics because they don't want to admit it because they're playing in a AAA park in Sacramento. You've been to Sacramento? I've been. What's Sacramento like? It's so unremarkable that I can't tell you anything about it.

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124.598 - 127.984 Aaron Korolnik

As far as Californian cities, Sacramento's pretty far down the list.

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128.004 - 139.643 Dave Feschuk

What did Phil Jackson used to call it back in the day? Cowtown, I believe. Cowtown. All right. That's not very complimentary. It's nothing like L.A. It's in California, but it's got nothing to do with L.A.

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139.743 - 158.052 Aaron Korolnik

Well, our next guest last night was in Detroit, a vastly superior place to Sacramento, to see the Wings beat the Montreal Canadiens. Joining us on the Maple Toyota hotline is our friend Mike Johnson. There he is. MJ, do you hear how I almost burned down the TSN studios here?

159.128 - 180.443 Mike Johnson

I caught the tail end of that. I guess I'm glad you're okay. Thank you. Although, in my life, I generally root for all things chaos. Like, I am full chaos all the time. So, like, a little dust up, a little burn down, that no one got hurt, just some small property damage. I probably could get behind that. That would be a pretty good story.

180.523 - 186.77 Aaron Korolnik

Well, nowhere is there more chaos than in the Eastern Conference of the National Hockey League. How about that segue right there, Mike?

Chapter 3: Which team is more likely to sneak into the playoffs: Ottawa or Columbus?

186.81 - 205.892 Aaron Korolnik

Not bad, not bad. But everybody wins every single night. It's looking more and more like to get in, you need 98, 99, maybe even 100 points. I mean, this is unprecedented what we're seeing in the East this year, especially considering what's going on in the West where it might be 86, 87 to get in.

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207.442 - 229.065 Mike Johnson

Yeah, wasn't it last year that Calgary missed with one of the highest point totals of all time? They missed with 95 or 96. And then they're going to turn around and somebody, whether it's the Islanders or the Senators or the Habs or whoever, might miss with 97 or 98. Yeah, it's tough. I think the proliferation of three-point games this year.

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229.225 - 244.53 Mike Johnson

I mean, there was more overtime games than we'd seen in recent memory this year. So everyone's picking up extra points. And you're right. AKA you're watching the out of town scoreboard. And you're like, you know what? At this point, we're not even cheering for anyone. We're just cheering for regulation. Like if you're one of the teams that like, just, you know, give me it.

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244.69 - 263.943 Mike Johnson

And that's why the teams actually would have seen the result of the Ottawa Islander game. 13 seconds left. Having Ottawa win that regulation, like, okay, yes. I mean, Ottawa gets two points, but the point is, there's not three for the game. Same thing in the Montreal game. It was going down the last minute. A brutal, tough turnover by Mike Matheson, and Detroit wins it late.

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263.963 - 286.977 Mike Johnson

But, yeah, it's going to be... There's so many different permutations of how teams could make it, whether it's being third or second in the Metro or being a wildcard team or maybe being third in the Atlantic, that it's hard to figure how it's all going to shake out. I just thought this, that the Canadians who have been sort of comfortable and celebrated and exciting and all things going great.

286.957 - 297.646 Mike Johnson

are now tied for eighth. They're also tied for third, but they're tied for eighth in their division, which is perilously close to being out of the playoffs, which is something they haven't even thought about for a long time.

298.347 - 300.749 Dave Feschuk

MJ, you were correct on the fact check, by the way.

Chapter 4: What is Ryan Dempster's level of concern for the Blue Jays' injuries?

300.769 - 315.242 Dave Feschuk

The Calgary Flames last year had 96 points, which tied the mark for most points without reaching the playoffs, and there were a few other teams that had done that. But the Edmonton Oilers this year are not going to be getting 96 points, but they still have a...

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315.222 - 330.445 Dave Feschuk

Decent shot to get in, MJ, despite losing last night to the Florida Panthers, who, as AK and I have been pointing out, got two points that put them one point ahead of the Maple Leafs in the standings. Probably much to the chagrin of their management because they're trying to do the same thing the Leafs should be doing.

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330.925 - 340.74 Dave Feschuk

But what do you make of the level of frustration with the Oilers getting shut out against a team that really has no business even winning games right now?

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342.307 - 346.874 Mike Johnson

Except, if I'm not mistaken, Florida's pick is top 10 protected.

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347.035 - 347.616 Dave Feschuk

Yes.

347.636 - 360.096 Mike Johnson

Not top 5 protected. So, much more comfortable for picking up the odd point for Florida compared to Toronto. But, I digress. If you're Edmonton, I think the whole year has been frustrating. I think...

360.076 - 379.468 Mike Johnson

Everything about it has felt harder, not connected, holes in games, whack-a-mole, you try to fix a goal, you get another goal, you try to fix a defenseman, you're changing coaches, you're doing a lot of different things trying to get this team to play the way that everyone sort of assumed that they would be able to find at some point.

379.448 - 399.274 Mike Johnson

Even if we give them a pass, I think a lot of people did for 40 games because of the two consecutive finals and the fatigue and maybe the Olympics. But at some point, the assumption, they'll figure it out because they've been really good. They'll be really good again. And now with dry saddle hurt, what are the chances of them being really good in the regular season? Not. It's not good.

399.594 - 412.56 Mike Johnson

I mean, they may scrap and get in. They might win the division. But I don't think they'll be playing at a tremendous Stanley Cup finalist caliber level. And I guess they find it. But the disconnect too fast. When you hear...

Chapter 5: How does Trey Yesavage's injury affect the Blue Jays' season?

437.007 - 454.815 Mike Johnson

And you'd think if there was going to be a team in this situation to motivate Edmonton beyond the points, the team that beat you two years in a row, the team that sort of takes pot shots at your players, dry settled in the Olympics, whatever, that way you stir up a little something, a little sense of urgency, and maybe that's the word I'm looking for.

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454.795 - 475.133 Mike Johnson

The whole year, there hasn't been a sense of urgency. It's just like, we're going to be fine. We'll get it together. We'll get there eventually. They're almost at the finish and they haven't got there yet. So I guess I'm worried about them. The only thing they have going for them, the Pacific, because they're going to be in that bracket, which looks like it's going to be pretty weak.

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475.113 - 484.57 Aaron Korolnik

TSN Hockey Analyst Mike Johnson, our guest here in Hour 2 of Overdrive. I know you're fired up for Leafs Hurricanes tonight from Scotiabank Arena. 13 games to go.

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484.851 - 496.032 Mike Johnson

Yeah. I am going to the game. Okay. Not working. That's how fired up I am for the Canes and the Leafs.

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496.052 - 498.977 Aaron Korolnik

The Alumni Box has some kind of special food tonight or what?

500.729 - 502.892 Mike Johnson

I'm giving out the military jersey.

502.912 - 523.766 Aaron Korolnik

Oh, very nice. All right. Now I will watch. Now I will watch. I wasn't going to before, but now I will. Just until the second break. Yeah, exactly. I went on a diatribe earlier talking about Matthew Nyes, who came out this morning and was saying, well, I'm dealing with this injury. Can't get any worse. And a lot of guys play with stuff at this time of year. I'm just going to continue playing.

523.786 - 524.787 Aaron Korolnik

And my question is why?

Chapter 6: What can we expect from Cody Ponce in the upcoming season?

525.148 - 540.152 Aaron Korolnik

Season's over. Why not get this guy – some treatment get him as healthy as possible for the offseason and also do your best to lose hockey games because really at the end of the day that is what puts yourself in the best position heading into the offseason do you see the same way

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541.735 - 562.866 Mike Johnson

I see it that way from a macro perspective. Of course, you're right. Obviously, you're right. And I don't know what's wrong with Matthew Nyes. If he needs a procedure, AK, then get him out of the lineup yesterday. Do not wait until the summer, even though it's going to be a long summer. Do it now. Get him rested. Get him healthier so his summer training...

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562.846 - 581.45 Mike Johnson

which will take three plus months, will be unhindered by whatever recovery he's going to have to go through. If it's not a procedure and it's just sort of rest, It's a different kind of conversation because I also understand the athlete side where Matthew Nye is like, I want to play. I'm not feeling great, but I'm a competitor. I don't want to watch.

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581.47 - 600.177 Mike Johnson

I don't want to just be icing my knee down while we struggle through this. I want to be in the grind with my teammates. And I respect that. And I would have been like that. I played lots of different times where maybe I should not have or could have used a break. But you just keep playing because that's what you want to do. But maybe this is one of those ones where if there was a...

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601.186 - 618.561 Mike Johnson

really clear vision of what the rest of this year is supposed to be. And I don't know if there is. I'm not saying there isn't. I just don't know if there is. But if there was a really clear vision from Brad Trudeau, like, listen, we're going for the bottom five. We're not going to dress players that aren't NHL players when we have NHL guys available.

Chapter 7: What are the challenges in the AL East for the Blue Jays?

618.681 - 637.272 Mike Johnson

But if we have guys that are hurt, they won't play. If there was a clear vision and a mandate and an understanding, then maybe that word would filter down to Matthew Knight. He's like, listen, if you're hurt, not if you are, you are. You've been hurt all year. We're going to shut you down. We're talking three weeks now. I guess three and a half weeks. It's not like a long time.

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637.312 - 657.062 Mike Johnson

Shut them down and get the rehab and the health started. But maybe the uncertainty of exactly what they're trying to accomplish. They try to push that pick further up so that it's not a good pick for Boston. Or they try to chase it all the way down so it's a good pick for them. I'm not sure they're stuck in the middle. But if they're going down and it was an organizationally discussed issue.

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657.042 - 669.516 Mike Johnson

plan that we need to finish as low as possible then both for matthew nize's health his training and next year plus the draft pick it would make sense sit him out the rest of the year

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669.766 - 688.99 Dave Feschuk

Well, aren't you a little... If I'm a fan, MJ, I'm a little disturbed that I'm not seeing more Marlies in the lineup. You want to start selling the future here. You want to talk about resetting and having another good year next year. Part of that's going to involve ideally maximizing whatever you have in the system. Now, we've seen...

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688.97 - 703.84 Dave Feschuk

We've seen Bo Grew and we've seen Quillen, but there's a whole other roster of Marlies down there. Are they basically saying we don't have anybody else that's worth seeing, or how do you look at this? Shouldn't we be seeing more Marlies at this point?

705.828 - 728.49 Mike Johnson

I suppose, but there are some rules about who you can call up and when and salary cap for mutations. You just can't bring up eight guys because you want to. There are roster limits to what you can do. But yeah, you should try to get as many in as possible. Yes. For the reason we just talked about. There are going to be some players that aren't coming back.

Chapter 8: What are the FanDuel Best Bets for today's games?

728.91 - 745.411 Mike Johnson

If you're Cali, you aren't broke or something. You know, I totally respect his game and his career and what he's done, but he's not going to be back here. So if you can get games for somebody else who might be, well, you get those guys' games. But more than that, Fez, I'd like to see some defensemen mixed in. Like, who's on defense down there?

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745.511 - 753.284 Aaron Korolnik

We need to see Troy Stetcher again. Like, he's a free agent at the end of the year. Why not call up one of these kids? Jacques Villeneuve. What's Jacques Villeneuve got going on down there?

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753.972 - 782.064 Aaron Korolnik

I think this speaks, and this is just my theory, to a larger disconnect within the Maple Leafs organization. Shreeliving, Berube, they're probably not sure that they're coming back. So if there is some edict... That needs to come down. All right, 13 games to go. We need to ensure we lose as many as possible to keep that traffic. Isn't that on Keith Pelley, the guy who's making the ultimate call?

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782.505 - 798.93 Aaron Korolnik

Because at the end of the day, I think it makes a lot more sense than not to do everything within your power to keep your first-round pick because the expectation is, Mike, that they're going to try to be good next year. And if that's the case, this pick's worth a lot more than next year's unprotected firsts.

800.733 - 802.495 Mike Johnson

Yes. Yes and yes.

803.316 - 805.338 Aaron Korolnik

Okay, we're in agreement.

805.358 - 810.504 Mike Johnson

I love it. I think Keith Pelley is a very smart person. Very smart.

810.984 - 830.707 Mike Johnson

And so, whether he decides this, or whether it's a conversation with Tree Living and others around him, and they decide collectively, but he's the one who says, okay, Brad, I know you probably want to have a more competitive team, you want to finish stronger, you want to represent, you want to do good by the players you've signed... I'm telling you, we're not doing that.

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