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OverDrive - May 27, 2026 - Hour 2 - Frank Corrado

27 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.149 - 21.938 Bryan Hayes

Hour 2 Overdrive continues. Powered by FanDuel, Brian Hayes, Zodog Jeff O'Neill, Jamie Noodles, McLennan, Frankie Corrado will join us later in the hour. Get to our best bets later in the hour. Game 4, Habs Carolina tonight. Jays with a win this afternoon. So they end up winning another series against Miami. They won a series against Pittsburgh. They got a split against New York.

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21.918 - 40.875 Bryan Hayes

They're starting to get it going. They're two games under .500, but like you said, with how it's kind of been feeling around the team with injuries and performances, you'd think they were 10, 12, 15 games under .500. So, you know, not perfect, but you'll take it. Get some arms back, get some injured bats back into the lineup and get cooking here.

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41.376 - 69.052 Bryan Hayes

And the Jays still have an opportunity to salvage things. Speaking of baseball, as we know, this is the last year of the current CBA. So I guess it was... reported on today that the Players Association, MLBPA, they put forth their first proposal. And now Major League Baseball has come back with a statement on that proposal. And it said, well, I'll read you a little bit.

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69.092 - 92.855 Bryan Hayes

You guys are union members. You've been through work stoppages in the past. You tell me how you would interpret this. We appreciate the union making a set of proposals and we look forward to continuing the bargaining process and working towards solving the competitive balance problem our fans are telling us needs to be addressed. We understand their proposals are designed to benefit players.

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93.376 - 116.515 Bryan Hayes

Unfortunately, they do not address and in fact exacerbate the competitive balance problem our fans are telling us we must address. The PA's proposal would reduce the amount of transferred to lower revenue clubs, weaken the competitive balance tax, and lead to an even more payroll disparity than exists today. And then it continues.

116.535 - 119.92 Jeff O'Neill

They go back at him just basically saying the rich will continue.

120.321 - 129.976 Bryan Hayes

Yeah, that reads to me like we want a salary cap and your proposal doesn't have a salary cap. So thanks for coming out, but that's not going to work.

130.097 - 133.072 Jeff O'Neill

Well... Can they afford a full work stoppage?

134.233 - 138.558 Bryan Hayes

I don't know. You guys tell me. Could Harry and the boys back in 0405?

Chapter 2: What recent developments have occurred with the MLB Players Association?

184.038 - 198.256 Jamie McLennan

We talk about baseball. But if you're going to be so stupid to say we're going to miss half a season, we're going to miss a full season, the owners don't care. Figure out something where you can have a great life and everybody's going to be happy because there is some kind of happy medium.

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198.537 - 212.533 Jamie McLennan

If you want to put a stake in the ground and just say that's not happening moving forward, what's the sense of losing all that money? Hockey players lost. We all lost a billion dollars for sitting out. And then we said, yeah, let's take a salary cap. How stupid is that?

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213.955 - 217.859 Bryan Hayes

Well, I think, listen, you lived it. You guys have your lived experience.

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218.019 - 244.545 Jeff O'Neill

I was part of three. I was 91. I think I told you this. In 1991, I was with the Islanders. We were playing the Toronto Maple Leafs the next day. I was supposed to get my first start. And we went on strike. The players striked in 91. 94, there was a half a season lockout. And then what was it? 05 or whatever it was. We lost the full season. I was part of three work stoppages as a player.

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245.387 - 264.463 Jeff O'Neill

And you never get that time back. That's the one thing. There's enough money to go around. I think there's enough smart people in these leagues to figure it out without the carnage. And ultimately, think about the fan. The fan pays the price because they miss those games.

264.824 - 270.895 Bryan Hayes

They don't care about the fans, though. In the moment. I'm not saying that in general. It's a business. It's their lives.

270.976 - 293.001 Jeff O'Neill

In hindsight, if I had known that we were going to settle on a salary cap, we wouldn't have missed a full season. Of course. We would have said, let's get the highest percentage of the cap that we can. And it ended up 50-50, whatever it is. The point being is, to get to that, we missed a full season. Oh, we lost a lot of money. I lost a lot of money. But we lost a career of our livelihood.

292.981 - 301.158 Bryan Hayes

That's what's crazy. That's just a year in the record books. It's gone for so many players.

Chapter 3: How are the current MLB CBA negotiations similar to past NHL lockouts?

302.301 - 323.975 Bryan Hayes

Ultimately, what happened in the NHL was Bettman got to the owners of the richest teams And they said, we're committed to this fight. Because they didn't need it. The Leafs didn't need it. Detroit didn't need it. The Rangers didn't need it. And Bettman sold them on, we've got to think of Carolina and Arizona and Florida. That's what we've got to think of here. And they all bought in.

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324.536 - 336.994 Bryan Hayes

What will be interesting is if that continues in baseball. I think it's a good idea. Listen, they're making proposals. It's May. They've got a long season ahead of them. And it's going to go into the wintertime. But at the end of this statement...

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337.885 - 355.261 Bryan Hayes

Glenn Kaplan, he's the MLB spokesman who issued this statement, said after talking about all these things that would exacerbate the issues according to Major League Baseball, and again, I don't know where their polling is coming from. Fans are saying we have a huge competitive imbalance issue. But he brings up the Dodgers.

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355.721 - 378.232 Bryan Hayes

He says, quote, for example, under the union's proposal, the Dodgers would pay less in luxury tax payments, giving them an additional $70 million to spend on payroll, end quote. I find that interesting that they would use the Dodgers here. Like, that's your crown jewel. It's New York and L.A., your two biggest markets. Otani's there.

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378.272 - 395.91 Bryan Hayes

They've won back-to-back World Series because they've earned it. Their owners have said, we're going to invest in this. We're going to give the guy a billion dollars because we want to, and we think it's going to be worth it for us, which it has been. That's interesting. I'm curious how they would feel in L.A. about that. Why are you using us as the example?

395.95 - 419.585 Jamie McLennan

Why isn't anybody picking on the Pirates and how garbage they've been and how little money they've spent? And other people in Major League Baseball were fighting to just keep them afloat and keep them relevant. And it's like they've done a piss-poor job. The owners even come out and said, yeah, we're just not spending. Like, that team's an embarrassment. They have been for a long time.

420.086 - 430.872 Jamie McLennan

So that's one side of it. It's like, why are we fighting for an organization that's just been piss poor and they don't want to put money into their team? But they've got to have revenue sharing and an equal share.

Chapter 4: What are the top reasons for optimism among Leafs fans?

431.052 - 433.418 Jamie McLennan

You've got to keep them afloat. It's like, okay.

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433.972 - 450.751 Jeff O'Neill

But I took it as they're pointing out the gold standard, a team that spends all the money, and they would have more money to even spend. So I don't know if it's picking on or just pointing out, like, that's the team that has dominated the last how many years? Three, four years?

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450.831 - 453.615 Bryan Hayes

Oh, yeah, more than that. I mean, they were in the World Series in 17.

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453.835 - 459.802 Jeff O'Neill

And through this system, they will figure out a way to even spend more money.

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460.122 - 477.31 Bryan Hayes

And it's understood that if they got those... additional dollars, they would invest them into the team. They wouldn't pocket them, which is what would happen in Pittsburgh. What would happen in Tampa? They'd be like, well, we'll just keep this money. We stumbled across $70 million. We're not giving it back to players.

477.771 - 479.875 Jeff O'Neill

I don't know enough about the...

479.855 - 496.233 Bryan Hayes

No, I understand, but there's also a history in baseball. The players, remember the reports of Scherzer and other guys getting in the face of Manfred as he was doing tours and being like, no chance, we'll see you. Yeah, but that's the thing.

496.593 - 498.215 Jamie McLennan

Bryce Harper did it last year.

498.375 - 515.719 Bryan Hayes

That's right. Harper was famously in his face and swearing at him and saying, no chance, let's go. Because in 94, there was a push for it, and the players, they went on strike. They said, we're not doing it. We're out. And it cost the Blue Jays a chance at a three-peat. It cost the Expos a chance at winning a World Series that year. They were that good.

Chapter 5: What insights does Frank Corrado share about his time in Kelowna?

586.025 - 609.392 Jeff O'Neill

I had dinner with him. And I'd never played a game for the Florida Panthers. I was their player rep. I got a phone call going, we don't have a rep. You're the rep. You're up. So I'm flying down there meeting with this guy on behalf of the Florida Panthers. I'd never put the jersey on yet. And we lost a season to it, too. It was outrageous. That lockout was so avoidable.

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609.552 - 610.012 Bryan Hayes

Yeah.

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610.032 - 616.395 Jeff O'Neill

And that's where I'm coming back to. I hope that this is avoidable. Smart people can get to the table and sort it out.

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616.415 - 635.858 Bryan Hayes

Well, and listen, the argument from the players will be, look at the Blue Jays last year. Now, they spent a lot of money, but they came out of nowhere and they were in a World Series. Look at Tampa this year. They don't spend any money. They're competitive all the time. There's been a lot of different winners. Like in the League of Parity, we always talk about the NFL, parody this, parody that.

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636.659 - 651.379 Bryan Hayes

In the AFC for the last 25 years, it's either been the Patriots or the Chiefs, basically, in the Super Bowl every year. But that's considered, oh, there's so much parity there because they have a cap and all that. And it's like, not really. It's either Brady or Mahomes basically for 25 years almost.

651.619 - 656.607 Jeff O'Neill

Well, the NHL is a league of parity, and we have no idea at the start of the season who's going to win the Stanley Cup.

656.627 - 660.913 Bryan Hayes

It changes all the time. Now, maybe was it a league of parity before? Maybe not.

Chapter 6: Who is favored to win the Memorial Cup this year?

661.194 - 667.483 Bryan Hayes

Like maybe Detroit spent a lot of money and they were very successful. Jersey didn't spend a ton, though, and they were successful.

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667.503 - 687.772 Jeff O'Neill

I remember Glenn Sather's quote. when he ran the Edmonton Oilers, said, if I spent the money that the New York Rangers spent, we'd win a cup every year. He went there and started signing Bobby Hale for $10 million. He was walking around in a house coat with a cigar hanging out of his mouth. Feathers.

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687.792 - 689.935 Bryan Hayes

They'd miss the playoffs all the time.

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689.999 - 693.307 Jeff O'Neill

Yeah, there was a... That was James Dolan, too, man.

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693.347 - 712.462 Bryan Hayes

And now Dolan's Knicks are in the NBA final. Yeah, there you go. Everything's coming up, Knicks. And listen, the Knicks and the Leafs comparison has been there for a long, long time. And that leads me to... I got a little positive list for you. Give us this list here. I got a little five reasons to be positive if you're a Leaf fan. Because I get what's going on right now.

712.522 - 720.038 Bryan Hayes

It was a dreadful season. It was an awful year. They were awful. And the last two months were incredibly tough. And then Matthews gets hurt.

720.058 - 722.082 Jeff O'Neill

That was a death march, that last two months.

722.062 - 737.455 Bryan Hayes

And now you've got the Habs playing incredibly well. That's your longest-standing rival. And Mitch Marner, who left and couldn't get it done here, is getting it done in Vegas. And everything's about, oh, Toronto this, Toronto that, blah, blah, blah. All right? Here's your five reasons.

Chapter 7: What are the implications of the 2026 NHL Draft for teams?

737.836 - 745.377 Bryan Hayes

Number five on the list. Goalie options. Your boy Double A down with the Marlies. And the Marlies start that next series tonight.

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745.538 - 746.901 Jeff O'Neill

Yeah, I spoke with the coaches today.

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746.961 - 748.124 Bryan Hayes

He's playing really well.

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748.385 - 749.067 Jeff O'Neill

Yes.

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749.087 - 751.352 Bryan Hayes

He's got a real chance at a future with the Leafs.

751.373 - 770.586 Jeff O'Neill

I think he has, again, you've got Hildeby. You have Wohl. You have Stolarz. I think A.A. has surpassed Hildeby on the depth chart. Now, again, you've got two 24-year-old goaltenders. Well, he's playing all the games, and I was at the game the other night. He was unbelievable. He was first star.

770.646 - 773.19 Bryan Hayes

Right, and Hildeby's down there, and they're playing out the M.O.

773.671 - 782.885 Jeff O'Neill

So they have depth in that position, but they've got decisions to make in that position. So there you go. That's a real positive light, A.A. Absolutely. He's a great guy. I've got to meet him after.

782.905 - 794.14 Bryan Hayes

He's pretty cool. Yeah, so you got him coming. Wall installers, I know the season they just had. But you still got him. You got him on term. It kind of feels like if that's the case, maybe it's Hildeby that'll be dealt.

Chapter 8: How does Dobish's performance impact the Habs in Game 4?

794.2 - 818.207 Bryan Hayes

But we'll see. Who knows? But you got options there in that. And goaltending, if you can get goaltending, it can ease a lot of pain. It's not going to be perfect because, again, You don't have the best goalies in the league here. And Hellebuck was on Winnipeg last year. It was dreadful. Shusterkin was in New York. It was dreadful. Sorokin was unbelievable. The Islanders still missed the playoffs.

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818.687 - 838.301 Bryan Hayes

So having a great goaltender doesn't guarantee it. But you've got some options here. And AA in particular down with the Marlies. Number four I got, Austin Matthews is still here. He's still here, and he still has the chance. A, he's going to bring you out of your seat from time to time. He's been in the league for 10 years.

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838.522 - 857.352 Bryan Hayes

He still has a chance if they can find a way to win or have some success here. And I don't know when that's going to happen or what that's going to look like or if it will happen. But he's still chasing goat status. For some people, he's got it. For me, I've always said you've got to have playoff success for a team that's been around for 100 years.

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857.585 - 866.659 Bryan Hayes

But right now, it's all like, oh, Mitch Marner's doing this, and I'll bet you Austin's watching that and thinking, yeah, and he might be. He might be thinking, well, if I went somewhere else, maybe I could have that success.

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866.779 - 883.966 Bryan Hayes

I hope what he's thinking is, if I stay here and these guys actually put a team together, it'll be way more important and way more significant in terms of legacy if you actually are victorious where it all started. If you don't pull a LeBron and go to Miami, right?

884.387 - 884.487

Sure.

884.77 - 886.893 Bryan Hayes

That's fair. You don't pull a Katie and go to Golden State.

886.913 - 896.007 Jeff O'Neill

I'll throw one more nugget on there. If he's healthy and can get back to the form that we've seen, nothing bad can come out of that.

896.407 - 896.668 Bryan Hayes

Right.

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