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OverDrive - May 28, 2026 - Hour 1 - Kelly McCrimmon

28 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 7.404 Bryan Hayes

This hour of Overdrive is powered by FanDuel. FanDuel, bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score.

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7.925 - 28.749 Jamie McLennan

Overdrive, off and running, TSN 1050 on the TSN app, your home smart speaker, up on TSN 3, up on YouTube Live, later tonight up on Crave, Brian Hayes, Jamie Noodles, McLennan, There's Jason Strudwick making his Crave debut noodles. Struddy is officially going to be streaming on Crave. This is big news in Edmonton.

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Strud, how do you feel about that?

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Chapter 2: What are the highlights of the Hurricanes' win against the Canadiens?

31.155 - 37.311 Unknown

Did I dress well enough noodles? I've noticed that you've been taking some heat for some of your wardrobe selections.

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37.291 - 43.523 Kelly McCrimmon

What are you talking about? What are you wearing, a sweater? Is it six degrees in Edmonton? What's the problem there? Why are you wearing a sweater?

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43.924 - 49.074 Unknown

My office runs cold, and I don't have the extra layer that goalies have to stay warm.

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49.094 - 52.762 Kelly McCrimmon

Well, if you could tell right now, something's wrong with the AC in my room.

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52.802 - 55.888 Unknown

I've got like a rag here.

55.908 - 56.008 Kelly McCrimmon

What?

55.988 - 83.65 Kelly McCrimmon

dabbing down all hell's breaking loose i it's it's like 28 degrees in my room i can't get the air conditioning i like it hot yoga couple hours of hot yoga i've got the furnace face going i don't know if you saw this strutty the other day there was a malfunction on somebody's tv and oh snapped a picture of hayes's face and he tweeted out and said this is what furnace face looks like and he was on jay's show that's a nationally televised show everything and

83.63 - 90.536 Kelly McCrimmon

Hayes looked like he had some sort of – he looked like John Candy in Summer Rental when he fell asleep on the beach. Like that's the red face.

90.596 - 106.671 Jamie McLennan

And I'm telling you, Stroud, it was fake news. It was O's brutal technology at his house. He got black and white TV or something because I went back and reviewed the tape and that was not an accurate depiction. But do you think he would consider that before posting it online?

Chapter 3: What is the outlook for Canadian teams in the NHL?

460.531 - 461.373 Kelly McCrimmon

Heavy stick.

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461.393 - 462.315 Jamie McLennan

Very heavy.

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462.335 - 462.776 Kelly McCrimmon

So strong.

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462.796 - 475.602 Jamie McLennan

The fact that the puck found a stick and he had the presence of mind of just shooting it. He had no idea where it was going, but he just got it off and it got through Dobish. But, you know, Stankov has been really good. Blake's been really good.

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475.723 - 476.303 Kelly McCrimmon

Taylor Hall.

476.684 - 500.293 Jamie McLennan

Hall's been outstanding. Yeah, like those guys can match. You're right about Eichel and Marner and Stone, I would say. But I think beyond that, Carolina depth for depth can match anything Vegas is going to throw at them. So, you know, it's going to be a very, very intriguing, I think, coin flip cup final. But again, and I know it's not over yet, but it's trending in that direction.

500.678 - 521.522 Jamie McLennan

This will be 33 years without a Canadian team winning the Stanley Cup. And last couple of years, it fell close. Obviously, Edmonton was right there. This year, Montreal... They got relatively close. I thought they had a chance against Carolina. I was wrong. Clearly, Carolina has dismantled them the last three games. I was thinking about it today.

522.043 - 541.789 Jamie McLennan

Next year, I think Montreal will be the pace car of the seven Canadian teams. I think they deserve that. I'm very curious the offseason they have because you're right. That second line center, it's very clear what they need. They've got Suzuki. I'm a big fan of Jake Evans as a third or fourth line center. If he's on your fourth line, I think you're in a really good place.

541.769 - 563.05 Jamie McLennan

Oliver Kapanen, I don't know, Kirby Dock, I don't know. Deneau's, I don't even know what his contractual status is moving forward. They've got to find some help there. But I think they're loaded, and I think they've got young goalies, and they're going to win a lot of games. Beyond that, though, who else in the country, like let's jump in a time machine and move to October 1st.

Chapter 4: How did the Vegas Golden Knights advance to the Stanley Cup Final?

567.149 - 571.194 Jamie McLennan

the seven Canadian markets that that Canadian Cup drought is going to come to an end next year.

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571.655 - 588.938 Kelly McCrimmon

I'll give you one, not Cup, but take another giant step. If Ottawa gets good goaltending, they shore up somebody to play with Allmark and have health there and make a move, you know, a move to get a top six score. If you look at it again, we always bring up analytics. You look at it statistically.

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588.918 - 611.608 Kelly McCrimmon

That was a team that if they had league average goaltending, would have had 15 or 16 more points in the standings. So I don't know if that's cup contender, but that puts you right up with the top, you know, some of the good teams that we've been talking about. I think Ottawa is a couple pieces away. You know, Edmonton has to have a good offseason here. You know, who else is it? Winnipeg.

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611.628 - 620.13 Jamie McLennan

Winnipeg's another one. And they get healthy and, you know. They get the same questions Toronto has, Winnipeg. Like, what the hell happened last year and why did it go so south?

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620.491 - 637.24 Kelly McCrimmon

But, you know, one of those teams, I'll throw it to you, Strud, one of those teams, whether it's Toronto, whether it's Winnipeg, You know, teams like that that missed but had good seasons the year before, they are going to have that rebound. They're going to have that Boston Bruins rebound, you know, something like that.

637.32 - 655.881 Kelly McCrimmon

Whether that's Winnipeg or Toronto, let's see what John Czajka is going to do in Toronto. They've got lots of work to do, but it's not insurmountable. They can have a good summer and get your team right back into there. So what was it the year before? Was it four or five teams, Brian, that made the playoffs in Canada? Five, yeah.

655.861 - 667.862 Kelly McCrimmon

Maybe you can get to four or five if, again, you get back to some of these teams that we just talked about, having better off-seasons and getting health and all of the things that come with having an off-season and having a good season.

668.467 - 684.577 Unknown

Yeah, I think we're going – because I think we can look down and see Calgary and Vancouver are probably the two teams that are going to be really challenged to make the playoffs. So now you're down to five. So getting five would be pretty monumental. But I think there's a path for all of them to get in the playoffs. But cup contender, that's a pretty big step, right?

684.657 - 700.325 Unknown

Playoffs is one thing, a big step. You mentioned they always have to have a really good offseason. And, you know, Eickhauer's got to be a guy that hopefully was playing for USA and come and, you know, score some goals from getting a bit younger. But, you know, like Ottawa, I like the way their team plays and the way they're built, but they are a little bit short.

Chapter 5: What makes Mitch Marner an exceptional player?

708.339 - 721.337 Unknown

Strong, can score 20, big body, been through a lot of playoffs games. So there's something there. Toronto – So let's wait until maybe July 15th and kind of see how that all shakes out and who the coach is. Although maybe Jay Woodcroft is the guy who's floating around out there.

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721.357 - 741.42 Jamie McLennan

Yeah, it sounds like he's been given approval possibly to meet with the Leafs or they're going to talk to him. You saw him up close and personal in Edmonton strut. If you're a Leaf fan tuning in, and there's a lot of them, let's say Jay Woodcroft ends up being the head coach of the Leafs, what would you tell Leaf fans to expect with that operation?

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Well, the first thing I'd say is that he's worked with elite players. So he's played, you know, he's worked with Leon O'Connor and he understands that mentality. It's not easy to coach elite players and not that they're difficult. It's just that it's a lot to handle. Like you have to you have to respect them and make sure that they get what they need.

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But you also at times have to kind of bend them towards the way you want your team to play. And I think that that's always a challenge. You know, and I think he's organized, he's got a plan, and I think that's important for him. So when I heard that name, I'm like, yeah, okay, I could get that. I think that makes sense.

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But, I mean, at the same time, guys, a lot of the work's going to be done in the GM office, right? They've got a... Like I shared this name before, Hazer, on the show, Gothespierre. That'd be a guy like that. One or two of those guys in that back end. When you watch him play with Carolina, the way he moves that puck, the way he moves skates, like they need more energy from their back end.

793.634 - 799.605 Unknown

So I don't know if they can move some of those guys out and bring guys like that in. But I think a lot of it's on Chayka.

800.108 - 822.64 Kelly McCrimmon

Yeah, I agree. And I think Jay Woodcroft is a guy, when you look at just his systems, it might be more conducive to the top end players for Toronto. And I'm looking at Willie and I'm looking at Austin. Stretching the zone, getting speed. Now you have to, again, you have to get the puck with speed and in places where you can enter the zone and be creative.

822.62 - 835.57 Kelly McCrimmon

And Jay Woodcroft was able to do that with Edmonton a couple years ago. Yes, it fell off a cliff, and Knobloch took over, and we saw... Was it him that was walking off the ice with Charlie Manson there in San Jose?

835.59 - 836.211 Jamie McLennan

Yeah, we're done.

Chapter 6: How does blocking shots contribute to a team's success?

872.029 - 893.262 Kelly McCrimmon

Woodcroft has been there. And I think that's, you know, now you look at him, what he did in Edmonton. You look at him going to Anaheim Learning under Q, who's an elite, elite coach. And now he gets another opportunity if, again, if he gets an opportunity in Toronto. I think it would be a really, you know, a really good hire. I think there would be no downside to that.

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894.71 - 901.596 Unknown

Yeah, 100%. I'm with you because who's the guy that came to – was it not DU? He was North Dakota and went to Philadelphia?

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901.937 - 904.159 Kelly McCrimmon

Haxtell. Haxtell, and he went to Seattle.

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904.419 - 922.435 Unknown

It's different, right? It's a different setup to be a coach. Now, Carl, from all I've heard, he's a really good coach. Would it be better suited for him to have a coach that's a younger group of players and kind of building rather than taking on some elite superstars? Again, it sounds like I'm saying they're hard to handle, but it's just a different way of coaching, right?

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You're coaching to win rather than always trying to develop.

924.697 - 946.416 Jamie McLennan

Well, and there's also a marketing element to it. There's a PR element to it. The owner is watching differently when you're talking superstars. That's the thing. Everything you do with a McDavid or a Matthews or a McKinnon, everyone in the organization is watching. So it is a very different experience.

946.937 - 962.957 Jamie McLennan

And, you know, we'll see what the Leafs end up doing there, whether they, again, talk to Woodcroft, talk to Carl, maybe Bruce Cassidy, right? Cassidy was on Spitting Chicklets today and said he wants to coach, and he's disappointed that he's not getting the opportunity.

962.977 - 963.577 Bryan Hayes

Not up to him.

963.597 - 985.636 Jamie McLennan

It's up to the guy who's going to join us in 15 minutes. Kelly McCrimmon's coming up, and we'll ask him, like, You know, you've got to address what your former coach is telling the media today. You know, he's on with the Chicklets guys saying, I want a coach. I'm dying to coach. I'm disappointed. And Kelly, though, when he spoke a couple weeks ago, said we spoke to – Bruce, and he understands.

Chapter 7: What are the implications of the upcoming Stanley Cup Final?

1118.099 - 1142.625 Unknown

He was one of the strongest guys on his feet. I think he played around 215 or 220. And it wasn't like he was 6'5". He was a really, really strong guy. And there was two guys, he and Kovalev. I thought those two guys, I tossed them around, they were men. I was just, you know, even when I was a man, I was still little boys around those guys. So he was a true competitor and so good in the playoffs.

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1142.966 - 1147.534 Unknown

One of the great nicknames, yeah. So condolences to him or to his family and his friends for sure.

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1147.514 - 1165.877 Jamie McLennan

Definition of a playoff player, right? Not that he wasn't very good during the regular season, but he won a ton throughout his career. And always in the playoffs would elevate. Just got better and better and better. And really sad news hearing about Chloe Lemieux passing away today. Bruce Boudreaux coming up just after 5.

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1165.937 - 1183.14 Jamie McLennan

Jay's back in action tonight going up against a familiar foe on the mound tonight, Chris Bassett on the mound for the Orioles this evening. So we'll start looking ahead to that. Big news with the CFL on TSN as well and the rights deal moving forward. We'll tell you more about that. Strutty's in here. Noodles. I'm Brian Hayes. Overdrive continues up on YouTube Live.

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1183.34 - 1199.779 Jamie McLennan

All right, Overdrive continues, powered by FanDuel, bringing you more ways to play your game your way. Jays down in Baltimore for a four-game series starting tonight. Game six of the NBA's Western Final. Chance for Shea Gildas-Alexander and the Thunder to punch another ticket to the NBA Final.

1199.759 - 1226.712 Jamie McLennan

where the knicks are waiting for them so we'll get to that a little bit later on um some news on what the nba is trying to do to put an end to tanking we'll tell you about that and i guess the uh we talked about yesterday noodles that the players association in baseball you were proactive they got out in front of these proposals and said hey we got a proposal for you sent it to the owners and the owners quickly came back and basically said thanks but no thanks

1226.692 - 1255.469 Jamie McLennan

We really appreciate you spending time on this, but it's not going to work for us. Of course. The owners have counter-proposaled, and they have proposed a hard salary cap to the union. for the next CBA. And according to sources to ESPN, the salary floor for teams beginning in 2027 would be set at $171.2 million, which includes player benefits, with the ceiling being $245.3 million.

1256.21 - 1280.315 Jamie McLennan

So to put that into perspective, why I think those numbers... are what they are personally, is if you look at, again, according to websites, what team salaries are right now, exactly half the league is under that floor right now. Fifteen teams are under $171 million, all the way down to, I believe, the Marlins are at the bottom of the list. on paper anyway, with a payroll of $78 million.

1280.355 - 1302.598 Jamie McLennan

So that owner would have to spend a lot of money. Cleveland doesn't spend a ton. Washington, the Athletics, there's a number of teams. But that means half the teams would have to really catch up. But the teams that are above the reported ceiling are Atlanta, Philly, Toronto, the Yankees, the Dodgers, and the Mets. And a few of them are way over that.

Chapter 8: What are the future challenges for Canadian teams in the NHL?

1818.395 - 1839.493 Jason Strudwick

Some of the stats that you see after in terms of what Colorado had done with leads, I'm glad I didn't know that before the third period of game two that they played. had not lost a game in 45 games or something like that after they'd led after two periods. So, yeah, it was that kind of a series. Our guys were gelling at the right time and played really, really well.

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1839.929 - 1855.243 Jamie McLennan

Well, I get the impression you've always anticipated that this was possible for your group. When we had you on over a month ago after you made the coaching change, we referenced the Connor McDavid description of the Pacific as a pillow fight, and you seemed to take offense to that.

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1856.824 - 1869.295 Jamie McLennan

What was it about your team that maybe when the rest of the league or the hockey world was looking at the division or Vegas in particular and said, I don't know about these guys, what made you believe the whole time that you had a team that was capable of making a cup final?

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1870.726 - 1893.373 Jason Strudwick

Well, I think we do a good job in our organization of having a strong opinion of what a championship team needs to look like, how a roster needs to be built, and we liked a lot of those things about our team. So that's why... That's why I felt the way we felt. And, you know, it's amazing when the best player in hockey makes a comment, it gets repeated and repeated and repeated.

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1893.413 - 1916.963 Jason Strudwick

So the Pacific and the pillow fight reference that Connor McDavid made, I mean, Edmonton had a great team that had a tough year. We had a great team that had a tough year. You look at some of the teams on the upswing, one we played in Anaheim, you know, it's a great hockey team. San Jose is well on their way to becoming a great young team. So the division has been very strong.

1917.023 - 1937.267 Jason Strudwick

Last year we had 112 points and won the division in the Pacific. So it's not that we've been the perennial weak link of the four divisions. This year was a lot of things that go into it. When you look at 82 games, when you look at the Olympic year, when you look at all the injuries and the things that can happen to a team over the course of a year, I think you make a big mistake

1937.247 - 1957.631 Jason Strudwick

to say this team had 95 points, this team had 102 points, they must be better. It's just not like that. And when you look at, you know, something as simple as the overtime losses, which we had, I don't know, we had 20, 17, I can't remember what it was, but we had a tremendous amount of overtime losses. Well, that's not the overtime you play in the playoffs.

1957.731 - 1976.019 Jason Strudwick

So there's a lot of those things that when you kind of, When you look at the underlying numbers, I think our team was pretty strong in many respects for most of the season. And then as I touched on it to begin my answer, when I look at the makeup of our roster, we like the makeup of our roster. We did when you had me on last time.

1976.059 - 1989.36 Jason Strudwick

We did at the trade deadline after we made the acquisition of Cole Smith, Nick Dowd. We added Rasmus Andersen in January prior to that. So we felt strong that our team was a good team.

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