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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Pop back on, folks. Hour 2, Overdrive. Brian Hayes, Jamie McLennan, Jeff O'Neill out here in beautiful Kelowna. And I just want people to stop tweeting me, telling me... Now I've got people. This is how stupid people are. Telling me the hike I did was not a real mountain.
Now the hike I did today wasn't considered a hike because they said, you've got to do the grouse grind in Vancouver, and that's real. Give me a break. We went on a great hike today. I'll tell you what, that skinny little Frankie Corrado, he walked up this mountain like it was a stroll in the park.
He just went up, didn't breathe heavy, didn't do anything, and he just walked down like it was nothing. That guy's a conditioned athlete.
Chapter 2: What are the latest updates on the Maple Leafs' head coaching situation?
But don't come at me saying it's not a real hike. It was. It was a hike. I don't care if it wasn't some giant mountain that is a legitimate hike. For us, it was a hike.
Leave us alone. I totally agree. Yes. If I did it, I would be telling everyone about my accomplishment. It counts. The arrogance of people in British Columbia when it comes to the mountains, we get it. You got mountains. Good for you. We don't have mountains here. We don't have them. How often do you hear that? I like to ski. I don't ski a ton. Oh, you're a skier snowboarder.
Dude, that's when they come at you. They're like, your little hill in Collingwood's a pimple compared to what we got. It's like, okay, great, you got better hills.
Sorry, sorry. Good for you. Like, that's awesome. That's great. You're right, because you live...
Chapter 3: How is Gavin McKenna's future shaping up in Toronto?
thousands of kilometers away. That's where you live, and it's beautiful. That's great. You know what you also have? You have an ocean. It's the same thing. People shaming Lake Ontario. Lake Ontario. What is that? Yeah, we get it. You have the Pacific Ocean. That's great. That's awesome. Good for you. You should be very proud. You know what? Very proud of myself.
You know what we got in Ontario? We got a flat putt. We got a flat putt that goes one ball left to right. The next one I have on Coppinwood or Mad River, I'm going to gear down on the green and celebrate it. Because every putt in Kelowna falls off the world if you don't make it, and you might have a 60-yard chip. I'm dying for a 12-foot flat putt at Coppinwood next Thursday.
I can't wait.
Danny? Danny, Jack, we'll see you boys soon.
I can't wait. That's where we were today, buddy. I was rocking that Coppinwood sign today, and we're jacked to have you back. A lot of people excited for you out there. Noodles, you're out there as well doing your thing. We've got game five of the Eastern Final tonight. My stance on this is... It's got to be a dovish master class. Like, that's the only way I see the Hobbs winning.
Like, literally, he makes 45 saves tonight. And what that could afford them is they can breathe then getting home. You know what I mean? Then you've got to drag Carolina back. And then you make them think a little bit. And, you know, needless to say, it would be ideal if their best players played better.
I think Lane Hudson in particular, if he could really be dancing and find some room out there to make some magic. But to me, noodles, you know, and I know it's asking a lot, but I always say this, it's the nature of the position. You know, like... Dobish has got to be perfect tonight. I think he's got to be perfect.
He does. He's got to be perfect. And they need the combination of maybe Freddie not having his goods because how about let's get more than 13 shots on goal or 18 shots on goal. So I am going to stick with Dobish. Dobish has played fantastic. But he is going to have to steal one, O-Dog, because I think he's a guy that has played brilliant. He plays with emotion, but you can't give up.
They gave up 34 high-danger chances last game. Montreal has to carry the pace of play tonight if they have a chance to take it back to Montreal. And you're right, it's on Dobish, but I think the group has to give them some help, eh-oh?
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Chapter 4: What insights does Steve Phillips provide about the Blue Jays' recent performance?
If you want to be good, let's be honest. If you want to be the single greatest bump from a coach probably for next year, would be Bruce Cassidy. He is a very good coach. Now, he might only have a two-year shelf life because he's hard on guys, but for those two years, teams are always way better, and they're really good with him.
So, oh, I guess if you want me to go a different direction, I'm going the opposite direction. You go Bruce Cassidy, disciplinarian, taskmaster, old-school guy, direct in your face, but he'll make them better So if that's how they want to go there, if they can ever talk to him, maybe they can't talk to him, but he would be that kind of coach would work.
But maybe John Chyka walked into MJ's smoothie bar all horned up and he said, I want a lot of David Carl spice in this smoothie and it better come out the other end, Johnny.
I mean, it's amazing that David Carl, a college hockey coach, like think about recent college hockey coaches who've jumped right from college into the NHL. Like Dave Haxtell did it right. He went right from North Dakota to Philly. Did not go great. There was a steep learning curve. And the fact that David Carl, because of success in Denver...
his success with the World Junior Program with Americans. He is getting to call his own shot and write his own ticket all around the league. It's amazing because as smart as he is, there's still a bit of risk getting a guy who's that young who's not been around the pro game. But if that's who they want to go for, everyone has a price. Everyone can say, I don't want to go.
My family is really important to me. We got stability here, but everyone has a price. Would you go for 20 million? You probably would. Would you go for 10 million a year? You probably would. Would you go for eight, for seven? Like at some point, everyone has a number. And if the Leafs want anybody bad enough, they can get to that number.
Even if it sets the whole coaching pay grade askew, they don't care. Yeah, we'll see. I guess it's up to him. And he might have so many options, though.
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Chapter 5: How is Vladimir Guerrero Jr. impacting the Blue Jays this season?
If he's going to go pro, he might not want Toronto. He might want to go somewhere else because he'll have other options available to him.
Johnny, you just said the words, everybody's got a price. And I think in pro sports that's true. Do you think that, like, you just look at Vegas and the way Kelly McCrimmon is operated... Like, he's one of the top two or three executives, and he may be number one. It's non-negotiable. You look at him and Breezebois down in Tampa.
Do you think his name, like you want to talk about if you want to be good and you want to do this, do you think the execs at MLSC even talked about the idea of let's throw the, you know, Throw the bank at this guy and give him a blank check and let's see if he wants to come to Toronto? Do you think that idea was even discussed? And is it stupid not to be discussed?
I doubt it was discussed, O, because I think what Vegas just showed with Bruce Cassidy is they would not let Kelly McCrimmon go to become the GM of Toronto. They would not let him go to be a lateral move. He'd have to become the president, I guess, which you could do. You could get it up. If you're getting a promotion on the organizational chart, most teams or sometimes contracts mandate that.
But I think part of the reason why he's so good, Vegas is a currently good team. They've won recently. They have the intangibles of the climate and the no state tax. And they have a pretty good core of players around them. they could think about it, but I don't know if he'd want to leave Vegas because a lot of those advantages he has in Vegas right now would not exist in Toronto.
And even though he's a Canadian guy and from Brandon and all the rest, like he's got a good setup. So I'm not sure he'd be rushing to leave it.
So, Johnny, we can get back to the Leafs in a bit. I just wanted to follow up on this Evan Bouchard hit. I mean, you were there. What do you make of it, the fallout out of it? I was complaining yesterday. I know it may be on deaf ears, but... Why is he there in the first place? When you've been to the Cup Final and the Cup two years in a row, you've had long seasons, all of that.
Now, how long is he going to be out? All of that type of stuff. Just weigh in on Evan Bouchard and what you saw and what you make of it all.
Well, I just posted this noodles. Like what's he there for? What's Sidney Crosby here for? Like sometimes guys like playing. Some guys want guys want to win something. I know there's probably an element of Evan Bouchard saying I have to play for Canada.
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Chapter 6: What are the key factors affecting the Canadiens' playoff performance?
I want to show them I can be really good at internationally because I want to play in the world cup and I want to play in the Olympics. And, and I heard your segment and I agree with you. Like you shouldn't have to prove anything by playing in the world championships to earn an invite. If you're one of the best players to the World Cup or Olympics, get the invite.
You don't need to pay your dues in this tournament. The hit to me, guys, if that was in the NHL, I'm not sure that's a penalty. Like, unless you think it's interference, because it was maybe, you know, you'd have to time it out to see how it was close to being late. But it wasn't that late. He was feet were on the ice. He may have hit him in the head, but he hit him right through the body.
I think he might have been unconscious and then hit his head on the ice and made it worse. Saw him today. He's up walking around. Feels pretty good. He's not going to play, but he doesn't look like he's not in the room of darkness. So that's a good sign. But I guess this is part of the risk you run when you have this tournament. Guys might get hurt.
Guys who make a lot of money can get insurance, or if you need a new contract, you can get insurance, which costs some money, but you can protect yourself. It's the nature of the beast that you can say, well, don't come to this one. Same thing could have happened in the first exhibition game. It's just the reality of the sport. And it was against the Americans.
It wasn't against some crazy Hungarian player that doesn't know what he's doing, running around hitting guys high. It was against Ryan Lindgren, a guy he plays against all the time. So it was unfortunate. It wasn't a maliciously, violently dirty play, even though he got kicked out of the game for it. It's one of those things that happens. But Bouchard wants to come for whatever reason.
Who are we to say don't? We celebrate the guys we like coming over. Sid, what's Macklin Celebrini doing here? He's got no business being here, but we love that he's here. So let's celebrate that Bouchard wanted to come for whatever reason he wanted to come for.
Well, maybe they've heard of this kid, Tynus Luke Kobler, the Norwegian superstar who is a Maple Leaf prospect. And Bouchard and Celebrini said, we better get over there or can't. Are you serious? It's a second-round pick last year for the Leafs.
Tinas Koblar leading Norway to the semifinals. He's a teenager. Played in SkellefteƄ. They got sent down. He's going to play in Robla. He looks, guys, not stylistically. He looks like Pierre Engvall. He's got a slightly elongated neck region.
I didn't want to hear that.
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Chapter 7: Why is Freddie Anderson's playoff performance significant for his career?
They took a step and had some success this year. But it's just you never know. Like the next steps aren't guaranteed. You hope they take it, but it's just not guaranteed. I hope they do because I love their core. They've got young players. They seem to have all the pieces. But it's just things can change so quickly that just nothing's automatic.
Progress and growth and success is not linear. It's just not a consistent train up the mountain. There's dips. There's blips. And this and data tells me that when I graph it, it doesn't go straight up. Oh, that's not the Y axis and the X axis do not move together every time. That's how it goes. So there is that idea that this or data is. So, yeah, not be cautious, but don't be presumptive.
That because you took two more steps than last year, next year means you're going to get to the final and win it? No, not at all. They're going to be another team that has a chance, but oh, as you mentioned, whether it's injuries, opponents, poor play, whatever, winning's hard in the NHL. Ask Colorado. They're a great team year after year. That's Dallas. They don't win the Stanley Cup.
They get knocked out early. It happens. Edmonton barely made the playoff. So, yes, that is a cautionary tale for anyone who says, don't worry that they don't win this year. They're going to be better next year and go further next year. They'll have a chance to. But the odds are probably greater that they... fall short of this year's achievements next year, then exceed them, if that makes sense.
It's more likely they get to the second round, not the third or the fourth. So that's the reality in the NHL for every team.
Maybe Keith Pele was right, Johnny. You've got to be intertwined horizontally, vertically, and everything has to be matched up.
I don't think we're looking for intertwined. I think we're looking for integration. Close, but I think it's integration. Vertical integration we're looking for right now.
Lots of integrating. Lots of integrating. All right, Johnny, have a great weekend, and enjoy the semis and the final and the whole nine. We'll do it again soon.
All right, fellas, have a good weekend. We'll see you back in North America. Next week.
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Chapter 8: What coaching strategies are being discussed for the Maple Leafs?
They are excruciating, but they are victorious, and they help get this team knocking on .500. They can get back to .500 with a win tonight. Speaking with buddies this morning, it really just feels like a glass-half-full scenario where even though they're a game under .500, they've had a ton of injuries, had a lot of big dogs underperform,
And yet, as I've said, they're technically in a wild card spot as of today.
I got to think that scares, and I don't want to get too carried away, but if you're in the American League and you're looking at the Blue Jays with what they did a year ago and what was expected of them this year, the fact that the rest of the league, maybe Tampa slash Yankees notwithstanding, and I understand they're within the division, have allowed the Jays just to kind of hang around and
is a scary proposition because if and when they get healthy, which will happen, and if and when a couple of the big dogs start heating up, specifically with the offense, they could have a heater cooking down the stretch here and really make some noise. Hazy. Yeah, go ahead.
Are we looking at a situation where we've talked a lot about the ā the talent in the NHL, and we've called it watered down. Are we looking at something like that in Major League Baseball where you just described it? How many amazing storylines? You've got the usual suspect. I think the Braves have had a great start. The L.A. Dodgers are the L.A. Dodgers.
You're talking about Tampa Bay and the New York Yankees.
Yeah.
It's is there a lot of awesome after that? Like you want to talk about a year where they need to backdoor in it or just turn it around and get going. It's this year, isn't it?
No, you're right. I think that's accurate. Well, a guy that I'm sure has more of an in-depth answer on that than any of us could bring to the table is our TSM baseball insider, Steve Phillips. And he joins us here on Overdrive.
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