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Willson on the Bills' disappointing defeat, McDermott's dismissal and the Bears inability to close

19 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What are the main headlines from the NFL Divisional Round?

0.368 - 7.86 Rick Wilson

If you smell what The Rock is cooking.

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Hour 2 Overdrive continues. Powered by FanDuel. Bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score.

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14.572 - 28.415 Brian Hazio

Brian Hazio, Doug Jeff O'Neill, Jamie Noodles, McLennan. There he is, Luke Wilson. Noodles, let's stay humble today. No matter what happens, let's stay humble. Shut up, dude. Shut up. Nauseating. It's so nauseating. It's worse than being a dick, like, honestly.

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Just shut up.

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30.497 - 33.921 Brian Hazio

I'd rather you guys were, exactly, be obnoxious, be loud.

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Noodles, just ignore the noise and stay humble, man.

36.284 - 47.217 Luke Willson

That's so aggravating. I was telling them last hour, the fact that you would say stay humble and then just a shot for Al's brother here and then a shot for me.

47.197 - 49.4 Brian Hazio

Just crushing. It's so gutless.

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It's so gutless. It is.

Chapter 2: How did the Bears perform against the Rams?

148.101 - 150.163 Brian Hazio

Everything was covered well. Brutal coverage by the Rams.

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Yes, everything was covered well early, I'm saying.

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152.085 - 154.186 Brian Hazio

Yes. And then I don't know what the hell the defender was doing.

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And it was a great pass rush by not just Garrett versus everything else. But the most impressive thing you saw in that graphic right there is the air yards is 51.

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162.554 - 190.35 Brian Hazio

most people on planet earth can't throw 51 yards crow hopping into it imagine sprinting backwards going side to side really having jared verse in your face and being on your back foot and being like okay here's unbelievable play i can't take anything away from yeah but there's some luck involved a hundred percent and you know what hurt is someone sent me a tweet right afterwards that reminded me of i think it was the 14 championship game the two-point conversion to me

190.33 - 203.204 Brian Hazio

to you from Russ, where Russ did the same thing, and the Packers, here it is. Someone sent it to me, and I'm like, this is sickening because of who he throws it to, too. That's Russ. You made a great play on it.

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It's a lucky catch. If we play this back, I don't know if we can pause it. This is kind of a fun moment for me. If we can go back to the beginning and just not even roll it. Going into games, you'll appreciate this. We had two two-point plays every week. Now, if we needed more, we could obviously add more. But I remember being in the huddle when we scored and said, okay, we're going for two.

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One of the plays I was our first read and really our only read. This play, if you look at it, and it's actually a great job, I'm not even in the read. So what we wanted was Doug. So I remember being in the huddle being like... Doug Baldwin. Yeah, Doug Baldwin. In the huddle, I'm like, please call my number. And then they call the formation, and I'm like, man. So Russ is rolling out to the right.

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We're hoping to have man coverage to the right. But the Packers pass it off.

Chapter 3: What were the highlights of Caleb Williams' performance?

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See how they pass it off? We're trying to go to Doug. I remember sitting there being like, oh man, this play's dead. Like, there's no world. And when that ball was in the air, I'm like, Russ, there's no chance you threw this to me. And then obviously it ended up being a huge play because Aaron drove the field and tied the game up.

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262.84 - 274.979 Brian Hazio

Right, exactly. And now the difference also, not that we need to review from 12 years ago, but you broke in that ball. Like, Komet kept running towards the back of the end zone and it hit him. But anyway, that... It was a gong show.

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Again, I... It's just sometimes you get lucky. You get very lucky as an offense. It's kind of a prayer, Hail Mary, throw it up. I get why he went to commit because he's a bigger frame. But I think the Rams would have been pretty sick if they didn't have won.

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291.221 - 313.609 Brian Hazio

Crushing for the Bears that they lose in overtime. Yes. And there's a lot of conversation going on right now about whether or not if you win the coin toss, you defer or take the ball where – I believe the Bills won the toss, deferred, lost in overtime. I believe the Bears won the toss, deferred, lost in overtime.

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314.11 - 318.396 Brian Hazio

Small sample size, but where do you stand on... I'm still on the take the ball second.

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I really am, and it's unfortunate, but I actually just went over this play for a more analytical thing. I really think right now, if you're Ben Johnson, you're the Chicago Bears, the interception in overtime, which led to the field goal that you lost the game on. I don't know how they don't execute that. That has nothing to do with Caleb Williams. It has nothing to do with Caleb Williams.

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Zach Kolaris just kind of broke it all down for me. We had kind of the all-24 angle of it. It is maybe the perfect play call.

Chapter 4: What led to the Bills' defeat against their opponents?

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It is executed well. And DJ Moore needs to come flat there. And it is a... Did he quit on that route? I don't know if he quits the word or just like it gets weird. His calls were kind of indicated that during the call. It's bad when you see it from the other angle. He needs to be flat there. They have a clear out with Odunze on the other side of it. It's open. Caleb sets the whole thing up.

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Ben Johnson. And that's the game. He catches that. I mean, assuming they make the field goal. That is the game. I get that it worked out the other way both times, but for me, I really like the idea of going second in overtime. You know, the roundtables regarding their quarterback. Like you saw in Houston with C.J. Stroud. Like, they have to be looking at that guy.

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And maybe Caleb Williams to a certain degree where it's like, this guy can get us that far, but is he really going to be the guy to win us two more games? Is he capable of doing that? I think Hayes brought it up in the first hour. It's like... Some Buffalo fans must be saying about Josh Allen. He's the best football player in the world, but we don't know if he can win the big one.

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Yeah, so there's three guys you mentioned there, and I have some pretty strong stances on all three. I'll start with the most positive, which for me right now is Caleb Williams. You think he can be the guy? Yes, I do. I do because the things that I'd like to see him get better at are the easy throws. That fourth and four is a prime example.

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I didn't tell Dougie to pull this up, but there was a second and four on that drive where it's a quick little speed out, and he fires a fastball, I believe it was over Luther Burton's head.

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And if he's just accurate with a five-yard speed out, six-yard speed out, we catch that ball, we get out of bounds, and now all of a sudden it's first and 10 from I think the 12-ish, and the clock has stopped because we're out of bounds. We don't need that miraculous finish. Those are easy to clean up. You saw the growth of this guy with Ben Johnson.

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As strange as Ben Johnson is with the handshakes, with some of the off-the-field theatrics, I don't think there's any denying that he's an offensive guru. The talent, the arm talent, the escapability, the athleticism, I couldn't be more brighter in the fact that Ben Johnson's there.

Chapter 5: Why was Sean McDermott dismissed after the game?

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I could not be more optimistic about his future. Bingo. So that would be my first one. I like where Williams is at. And he's only in year two. I think you've got to give him more time. I do think this guy can go the distance. I'll go to the one I have the most questions about, which is C.J. Stroud. And what's strange here is you went from... A.K.A. Al's brother.

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512.724 - 515.268 Brian Hazio

Dude, he looked like he had never played football yesterday.

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Well, dude, some of those hope plays where he was pressured and he was tossing it up in the air like a peewee football player. It was like, what are you doing, dude? Brutal throws. Bizarre. In O-Dog, what I'd say, you know, multiplies the absurdness of them is how great his defense is. Yes. Yes. Where it's like, okay, the one there, which was the pick six, I get that it sucks taking a sack.

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I get that you want to go make a play. But you have to have some sort of feel that you have a... I hate using this term too often, but... A generational defense on the other side of the ball. Dude, give them Joe Flacco quarterback and you're going to win a Super Bowl. You're up three points here in the second quarter.

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The touchdown New England scored was on somewhat of a busted miscommunication cover zero, which was still a bang-bang play. Will Anderson Jr. was destroying. Yes. Will Campbell.

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Yes, and Hunter was chasing him all night too.

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Oh my goodness.

573.773 - 575.377 Brian Hazio

He plays average, they win that game.

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Average, they win. He spots them seven there. I thought, too, some of the just missed throws from five yards. Hey, you know, it's first down. We have a wide-open man, and it's inaccurate, or it's batted down. I'm like, man, in a game like that, when you're in New England, it's bad weather. There's two good defenses.

Chapter 6: What mistakes did Josh Allen make during the game?

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Your defense is generational. Five yards matters. Staying on schedule and being in second and five versus second and ten is a massive difference from a play caller. I worry about Stroud. I do. I don't think the sky has completely fallen. Obviously, there's a little recency bias because the last few games have been horrid.

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I think you can get this guy back on track, but I do think there needs to have some sort of conversation in the offseason with Nick Haley, their new OC, being like, how do we develop this guy? And I hate to bring this up, but it's like after his first year, he had Bobby Slowik as his OC. Everyone was like, hey, he was in the MVP chat at the end of the year.

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The second year, he regressed a bit, and everyone blamed Bobby Slowik. Let's bring in a new guy. And I didn't love that, especially because Bobby Slowik was a guy that was potentially going to be head coach somewhere that year. He was getting interviews. And certainly now you're probably sitting there thinking, hey, maybe it wasn't Bobby Slowik. It's trouble there.

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All right, let's get to Josh Allen. He had some stupid comments earlier in the year where he felt like he said he was feeling old.

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661.975 - 662.756 Brian Hazio

Yes.

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It was bizarre.

663.657 - 668.866 Brian Hazio

Not good. All right, Josh Allen. Let's get to the meat and potatoes here.

668.906 - 670.128 Luke Willson

Interception, all of that.

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Yeah, the whole nine yards. I don't love when they're like, these are things that annoy me as an ex-player, and they're like, oh, Josh Allen, four turnovers or whatever it was. Some of the turnovers, his fault, 1,000%. The end of the half cannot happen in any situation other than that was a massive play. Obviously, the three points jammed him in the end.

Chapter 7: How does C.J. Stroud's performance impact his future?

752.77 - 754.653 Brian Hazio

I agree. That's still a lot in the playoffs.

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And I thought what was a bigger issue. was the two misthrows. One was to Dawson Knox in the seam. And then two was to McCole Hardman in overtime. Was that in the flat? It was kind of a corner.

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768.282 - 778.757 Brian Hazio

Because I thought the third down in the flat, he was getting rushed. It led to the field goal. I can't remember if it was Palmer or Cooks he threw it to, but he underthrew it. Remember the guy picked it up and ran it into the end zone?

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778.777 - 779.858 Rick Wilson

Yes, yes, yes.

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780.158 - 800.336 Brian Hazio

That was a bad throw. Yes. So he had a few of those. Yes. I mean, that's my concern. Is McDermott's taking the heat today? I didn't like McDermott's postgame. Maybe he was trying to save the job. I had a lot of thoughts on that. I thought it was just excuse after excuse. What was me? Buffalo. Why can't we catch a break? He had three opportunities, Allen, to win that game. Bingo.

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In my opinion, we came into the week. I said it a million times. I've heard you say it. Everyone said it. This defense and the special teams, everyone else on the team, the whole objective is to put the ball in his hands late and give him a chance to win it. Yes. When they're up 24-3, he could have won that game if he drives them into six.

818.249 - 830.107 Brian Hazio

If they go up eight, I don't think Knicks is getting into the end zone twice. Because they would have to score a touchdown, then a two-point conversion. I'm not sure he does that. At a minimum, if they tie it, ball's in your hand, all you need is a field goal to win it. Couldn't do it.

Chapter 8: What are the implications of the Bills' coaching decisions moving forward?

830.548 - 851.496 Brian Hazio

Late, obviously, in regulation, the throw to Knox was a bad throw. Was he pressured? Was there some arms up at the line? Yes, but still, it's a field throw, and he couldn't make it. And then in overtime, three and out, he's got the ball. He can't even put him in a position to kick a field goal. So it's McDermott's fault. It's Bean's fault. It's the defense's fault. Unfortunately...

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851.915 - 869.314 Brian Hazio

To me, they did everything they could to put him in an opportunity to have his Mahomes moment, and he didn't capitalize. He didn't do it. And now you've got to have whispers in Buffalo, does he have the clutch gene? Can he close? Okay. You have to have that whisper in the back of your mind.

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869.334 - 877.651 Unknown

Everything you say, everything you said there, I agree with. Except the last part. The whispers are very quiet. Are they?

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878.111 - 885.52 Brian Hazio

In my opinion, they should be very quiet. What more can the Bills do to give him a Mahomes-Brady opportunity than what they just gave him?

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Well, he's got what he's going to say, the roster. Right.

887.302 - 889.284 Brian Hazio

Yes. Okay, you talk about Mahomes.

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Knox ran the route, man. Okay, time out now. Let's get into this. So you talk about Mahomes. Mahomes, in his early years, had Tyreek Hill, who was phenomenal. Mm-hmm. And prime Travis Kelsey, who there's an argument that he is the best pass-catching tight end in the history of the game.

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100%. And they changed the rules because of that game. Because of what? For Josh Allen. Because they're like, this isn't fair. Since they changed the rules, I believe he's 0-3. In the big overtime game.

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The Knox thing, I get. And again, I just watched this where it's like, hey, he throws a little high. Knox goes a little flat. Yeah, I think that's one he's going to want back. He's going to want back badly.

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