Pablo Torre Finds Out
Mr. President’s Mind: How Shane Battier Learned to Lead (and Shut the F*** Up)
05 Jun 2025
LeBron called him the smartest hooper alive. Coach K called him an alien. Obama called him for a Hall-of-Fame pickup game (and a historic BBQ). But two-time NBA champion Shane Battier has been measuring the immeasurable inflection points of his career all along — from growing up "mixed, tall and poor"; to puking at Duke, guarding Kobe and witnessing LeBron's GOAT-defining game; to failing at ESPN and building a cabinet of relationships… including his therapist. Pablo cracks open the brain of the legend known as Lego, to find out if he really is human after all. Plus: Patrennessy, Laptop magazine and karaoke. Lots of karaoke. • Subscribe to "Glue Guys" with Shane Battier & Alex Smith https://www.youtube.com/@GlueGuysPodcast • The No-Stats All-Star (Michael Lewis) https://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/15/magazine/15Battier-t.html Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to Pablo Torre Finds Out, I am Pablo Torre, and today we're going to find out what this sound is.
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I love when a guest has a notebook.
I do. I feel like such a boomer. I mean, I'm getting old. I'm 46 years old. I forget things. But if I write it down, I have notebooks upon notebooks of just maxims and quotes. If I put it in my phone, it's gone. You have the good kind of pen, too, by the way. That thin... The Muji pen. The Muji pen. That's right. That's veteran savvy. The finer things in life.
But I wonder if you've used that Muji pen to write down at any point the quote I wanted to actually start with, which is, of course, from Mike Krzyzewski, Coach K, head coach of your Duke Blue Devils, who said this, quote, Shane was an alien. I wanted at the end of his career to crack his head open and see if he was really human.
End quote. I think that's a compliment. Pablo, I was psycho. I was a psycho, a psychotic, neurotic person in my time at Duke.
And great steal by Forte. He'll go for two. No! What a play!
That's one of the great defensive plays you'll ever see right there, baby!
When Coach K recruited me, I was part of a very talented recruiting class, number one class in the country, Elton Brand, William Avery, right? Chris Burgess. I grew up watching you guys. Right? And we were going to a team that had, at the time, 10 McDonald's All-Americans. We had 10, 10, which is crazy. So you're saying, like, why would you go to a team that has 10 McDonald's All-Americans?
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